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RE: I delegated 77% of my Steem Power to active community members

in #spdelegate8 years ago

We are not sure all whales won't use their power nor enforce them to stop to vote. I delegated my power to whom dont use bots and are commited to kr community. I think empowering engaged members is good for steem platform, rather than running voting bots.
And I think seven people for 1300 MV is not "few". They get 100~200 MV each.

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I think empowering engaged members is good for steem platform

Steem power is not something people should get for free, people should either earn it or buy it.
The more people want to buy it the more valuable this platform becomes. By giving free power to people you reduce this incentive for them and for everyone else.
If you want to empower people the best way is to vote with less weight so that all the minnows/dolphins who actually buy steem power are encouraged to buy even more.

And I think seven people for 1300 MV is not "few"

7 people out of 15000 ( active last 30 days) is few, less than 0.05%.

I think you are stuck in this mindset that guilds and SP delegation is the solution to solve power concentration, it is not because both do not incentivize users to buy steem power. The real solution is the idea of an investor class.

Not out of 15000. I only gave it to Korean and Turkish community members so out of tens. It is not free power becauae I gave up using my power. Moreover, this delegation is not permenant. If I think one poorly performs, I am going to cancel it. Or after certain periods I will do too. They may miss higher steem power and want to buy more :)

I'm sorry but I think you fail to see the bigger picture. Delegating whale power has an effect on every steemians not just the Korean and Turkish community.

It is not free power becauae I gave up using my power.

Users whom you delegated power to have not spent time or money to get it so they received it for free.
People usually associate something free with something with no value.
Steem power should be seen as a valuable thing that you have to earn/buy to get more of.

If I think one poorly performs, I am going to cancel it

What do you mean poorly performs?

Users whom you delegated power to have not spent time or money to get it so they received it for free.

NO. They are already spending meaningful time on this platform. I didn't give SP to not that active users. My delegation is encouragements for them.

They are already spending meaningful time on this platform

Now you are borderline trolling and ignoring my questions. They didn't acquire the SP delegated to them by spending time on the platform.

I didn't give SP to not that active users.

These users below are not active at all, but that's not even the point.

@donuma @vototo

It's not free, it's earned by being proven as good curators, subjectively from the delegator's perspective. The delegator owns the SP, they can do whatever the wish with it. If they give up using this SP for the benefit of others and the community as a whole, they should be applauded for their altruism. There's no free SP here. It's a temporary loan that can be revoked at anytime to someone who can use it better.

Your only subjective argument can be questioning whether the delegated curators benefit the platform. Certainly, looking at their post activity is not a way to judge that - you have to look at their curation.

Curation trails have been around since the beginning of Steemit. This has always been the case. The only difference is this time it's in code.

I wouldn't care if a 100MV account delegate some of its power to multiple smaller accounts.
The issue I have here is that clayop is bypassing the no whale vote experiment intentionally or not. And of course he can do what he wants with his steem power but if he thinks that's the best way to increase the value of the platform he is wrong. If every whales start doing this the utility of steem power will go down a lot for the majority of users and you can bet the price will follow..

To be clear, @vototo is @yoonjang0707 's account for Korean contents vote. @donuma is working under the scene I believe.

I already answered to your point. The delegation is not permanent and there are more room to attract people to buy more STEEM. My long-term goal is empower much more people with much smaller SP. At this moment, since kr community is small while we need utilize as many as SP to grow the community. If you are arguing not to use my SP, you are hitting wrong bushes. I need to support the sub-community as much as I can, and you may not notice that kr community maybe the most buyer of STEEM (our members have bought over 3500 MV so far).

Delegating SP is like hiring people and it is not only for whales. If someone needs committed curators, he/she can delegate SP with expenses of curation rewards. They maybe able to put more time on this platform than me, which can enrich the platform. It can be free from your side, but not free from my side. I gave up my curation rewards I can insist.

By the way, I still get your point. SP delegation can make people to expect some SP without spending money. But I still think that if they put meaningful efforts, this is not free.