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RE: SPS Staking Multiplier for Ranked Battle Rewards

Its 5 days into the season, maybe it would've been better on day 1 of the new season but I don't see that as a huge deal myself. And I don't see how it harms the economy, but I'm happy to listen to how you think it will harm the economy.

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Hi mate @davemccoy ,

I think (my personal view) we obviously need to wait for the results on the new staking change towards SPS.

I was shocked to see the numbers as with main account i could in theory simply maintain current status (where my champ results due to RNG are shit anyway, usually better in Diamond).

But then as result my alt accounts in diamond can simply not compete anymore (re financial rewards), so either i stop playing ranked there or sell all my max cards and get onto silver / gold decks as SPS staking not enough. Or i just use them for Brawls - all of them can easily get to champ 3, i kept them in Diamond, now it makes sense to let them play silver.

This is the one selfish side of things.

My main concern though - how to attract new players?
Especially from web2 space real gamers never will join at the potential costs, first game play is not really cool, so they will for sure not for that, max chance people with a crypto background but even for them the hurdle is too high now.

To start you need to buy cards to be competitive, even prizes are lower as in bull times it costs a lot to be competitive. NOW, with new changes even cards do not get anything near "low rewards" as they now also heavily need to buy SPS (even prize might seem low for people here, this is a major hurdle). Hence my main concern, we never attract new players now, even worse as before - many current players need to consider to stop their alts or main accounts and sell as it makes no sense to maintain apart if they really love the game play as such :-). BUT as said, we might need to wait on how it really ends up after implementation.

Hey @uwelang, thanks for the answer. I understand your concerns and agree that we will see a lot more after implementation. There are many different outcomes that are possible with this, and many possible solutions to each one that is of concern.

I 100% agree that we always have to consider how to attract new players, so when we get more concrete information over the coming weeks, then we will better be able to have that conversation.

My main issue simply is (and i know I am not the only one) that wahtever someone says not in line with fan boys or huge investors gets called salty - manipulating economy all the time is not moving us to any positive new height - tons of players plan to stop now, no new players coming - we need new players but we only get them with:

  • a better game play
  • huge focus on mobile app development

All the stuff we do now is protect tokens and raise the entry hurdle for new players - I am not saying it again in chat anymore - just tired of this. All by knowing crypto and generall economy is in a tricky situation.

Hey @uwelang ... I agree with this 100%

we need new players but we only get them with:
-a better game play
-huge focus on mobile app development

I think the stuff that protects the token value is also necessary too. In other words, one doesn't preclude the other. So I think what you are seeing is the team has prioritized tokenomics over gameplay right now, but that doesn't mean they don't understand or care about gameplay.

Put another way, both areas needed work. Which area was dealt with first is still only solving half the problem. So no matter what they did first, they were going to have the other half upset.

I don't mind you saying your thoughts. I have never seen you say anything to intentionally create negativity unnecessarily. I think you are truly concerned, so I'd rather you say why rather than keep it to yourself.

I think you and the guys that are upset with this change are only looking at this particular issue and assuming the other things needed won't be done. I believe they will be. But I can also understand that takes faith and trust.

I think none of the things mentioned are as important as the creation of the human vs human league. In fact, I think when that happens they would've possibly not needed many of the other things to stop the massive bot invasion that has run people out of the game. But the team doesn't share my urgency on the bot problem and what it does to new player acquisition, retention, tokenomics, and many other things. I understand they don't, even though I disagree. However I still realize they will do what is needed to create that league, so I stay patient and wait. All of these things will get solved sooner or later, so what happens first is less important if you have a long term vision.

When I see current situation with many of our guild stopping at least alt accounts I am pretty sure what the future will bring, some big SPS stakers play with them only

People playing with just 1 account doesn't seem so bad to me. Removing many of those empty shell alts will free up a lot of rewardpool share for (new) single account players.

maybe but also reduced the small number of existing players we have - we need to focus dev on developing game itself and mobile app (even i do not use this, but key to onboard new folks) and not raise entry hurdles for new folks that love the game.