I say the rent will go up. We even have evidence that shows this is very likely to happen. let's look at modern. Because the bot farms there can no longer cause rating inflation, it is much more competitive there and people rent a lot more there.
or another scenario when the modern bots had to go wild.
The number of bots in wild has almost doubled.
what has happened there? The wild rents have fallen because they have increased the rating inflation and therefore required far fewer cards for the same rating.
in the proposal 50,000 cp are required for silver.
But only one cl core set at silver level has 83,200 cp.
So if it becomes even halfway as competitive as modern, then even the entire CL core set won't be enough to survive there. That means there is a lot of room and need for additional rent.
and to the new players. the proposal has no requirements for bronze there can still be earned without own cp.
my goal is to give the cards and therefore the rental market more value again. if you think it's okay if 1bcx accounts can play up to diamand because it's great for the npe, well then i don't know what to do, i'm sorry i couldn't convince you
and the principles of the game are that ownership is rewarded and that card maximization is encouraged. the current state of affairs has the opposite effect. and pointing to rebellion?
do you remember the untamed rental prices when they were in modern? my prebuilt deck cost 14-20k dec a day to rent there, since it's in wild it costs 900-1500 dec a day. so if the few hundred players in modern had more influence on the rental prices than the tens of thousands of accounts in wild. then sorry then i have to tell you the wild rental market is already dead!
I do NOT think it's great for 1 bcx account to play up to diamond, that's putting words in my mouth. But that's something the team needs to address since they caused the problem. Too many things are getting changed too quickly to realize the actual EFFECT on the game and the ecosystem. We need to understand what every single thing does and the chain reaction it causes, and personally I do not believe the current setup of eliminating league limits is correct or good for the ecosystem, let alone the NPE.
I have been around here for a long time, and a major part of the OWNERSHIP thing is the ability to RENT cards and earn by doing so. We have no idea which way new players will be directed at this point... first it was modern, now the narrative is wild. As I said, I see nerfing rentals as another step that will damage the ecosystem in the long run. There are better solutions to the same problem, such as removing earnings by SB reward cards.
well, we now have liquidity bots in modern, i think this will ease the situation there again. and as i said, even if new players choose wild, they can earn there as normal, for novice and bronze there is no cp requirement. they can even play up to champion without having cp and earn glint as normal. only the sps reward would then be calculated as if they were in bronze 1. do you think that would be different from now? now they wouldn't even earn 2 sps in diamand. by proposal that many extractor botfarms will only earn sps at bronze level instead of diamand and champion as they currently do, the pool will be emptied much slower, which means that new players can at least earn something again. currently they can't if they choose wild.
and remove income for sb? how do you envision that? we all use soulbound cards. will we all be penalized if we use one?
In wild, sure. SB cards are loaded with problems that were not fully predicted by the team when implemented (some oversights, like including summoners, are mind blowing to think about).
Remove the rental nerf and I'd support this 100%. Being able to rent and earn is a vital part of the core of this game and ecosystem, and ANYTHING that nerfs rentals is a terrible idea imo. I do not believe rentals will go up for legacy editions if you do not earn rewards in wild with rented cards.
The core problem is that, in wild, if it were related to rent, we wouldn’t be able to solve the issue. Bots have no time limit, so they can infinitely multiply themselves without investing. Some even have tools that precisely calculate how expensive the rent is and how much I would earn. Then they determine the minimum profit required to activate accounts. Consequently, they automatically mine SPS without any financial or time constraints, and without any investment or risk. As soon as the SPS price rises, more accounts are automatically activated to rent, and mine sps from our pool. This continuous siphoning ensures that SPS and rental prices can only increase temporarily, as they are immediately absorbed again by the automated process 😔
I mean, back then we had CP requirements that could be rented. Did it help against bot farms and extractors? No, they even had a boom. It would be an improvement to the current situation; we now have other measures that would restrict it a bit more. But only restrict. The core problem would still exist; we would just slow it down but not stop it.