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RE: Improved version of Solution to Minimize Bot Farms

in #spsproposal8 months ago

I do NOT think it's great for 1 bcx account to play up to diamond, that's putting words in my mouth. But that's something the team needs to address since they caused the problem. Too many things are getting changed too quickly to realize the actual EFFECT on the game and the ecosystem. We need to understand what every single thing does and the chain reaction it causes, and personally I do not believe the current setup of eliminating league limits is correct or good for the ecosystem, let alone the NPE.

I have been around here for a long time, and a major part of the OWNERSHIP thing is the ability to RENT cards and earn by doing so. We have no idea which way new players will be directed at this point... first it was modern, now the narrative is wild. As I said, I see nerfing rentals as another step that will damage the ecosystem in the long run. There are better solutions to the same problem, such as removing earnings by SB reward cards.

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well, we now have liquidity bots in modern, i think this will ease the situation there again. and as i said, even if new players choose wild, they can earn there as normal, for novice and bronze there is no cp requirement. they can even play up to champion without having cp and earn glint as normal. only the sps reward would then be calculated as if they were in bronze 1. do you think that would be different from now? now they wouldn't even earn 2 sps in diamand. by proposal that many extractor botfarms will only earn sps at bronze level instead of diamand and champion as they currently do, the pool will be emptied much slower, which means that new players can at least earn something again. currently they can't if they choose wild.

and remove income for sb? how do you envision that? we all use soulbound cards. will we all be penalized if we use one?

In wild, sure. SB cards are loaded with problems that were not fully predicted by the team when implemented (some oversights, like including summoners, are mind blowing to think about).

Remove the rental nerf and I'd support this 100%. Being able to rent and earn is a vital part of the core of this game and ecosystem, and ANYTHING that nerfs rentals is a terrible idea imo. I do not believe rentals will go up for legacy editions if you do not earn rewards in wild with rented cards.

The core problem is that, in wild, if it were related to rent, we wouldn’t be able to solve the issue. Bots have no time limit, so they can infinitely multiply themselves without investing. Some even have tools that precisely calculate how expensive the rent is and how much I would earn. Then they determine the minimum profit required to activate accounts. Consequently, they automatically mine SPS without any financial or time constraints, and without any investment or risk. As soon as the SPS price rises, more accounts are automatically activated to rent, and mine sps from our pool. This continuous siphoning ensures that SPS and rental prices can only increase temporarily, as they are immediately absorbed again by the automated process 😔

I mean, back then we had CP requirements that could be rented. Did it help against bot farms and extractors? No, they even had a boom. It would be an improvement to the current situation; we now have other measures that would restrict it a bit more. But only restrict. The core problem would still exist; we would just slow it down but not stop it.