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RE: Steemit Inc Disregarded Their Own Terms And Conditions

in #steem6 years ago

No, it doesn't file under "No good deed goes unpunished"

What happened is they offered something, they didn't need to of course, but they did. When you offer something to people in specific manner, and people have to do something, in this case nominating, resteeming, and participating, then you are obligated to stick to your words. It is worth questioning the trustworthiness of the organization as the head of it himself referred to people who don't like it as "complainers". They broke a trust and insulted people who a problem with it. When someone deceives you and then lies to you. Then yeah, it is worth questioning their trustworthiness. At least for people who live in shitty places like Iraq here and put so much more effort, learning different languages in order to be part of the community who's head deceives us then insults us. That makes them untrustworthy, and not standing up against it will only give them space to what else they'd lie about.

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In my world deception implies some sort of Intension to harm.

I get that you are frustrated. Changing your mind about a gift you are giving away, or having a communication problem between 2 men who work for the same company is not the same as lying or scamming.

When someone tries to do a good thing and you throw a fit over how it is done. That has the be the ultimate picture of entitlement.

Thank you for your input @whatsup

Deceive:

  • (of a person) cause (someone) to believe something that is not true, typically in order to gain some personal advantage.

Harm has been caused. Not physical harm but nonetheless. No formal apologies were given and no retraction on Ned's part as far as I know.

I'm simply trying to uphold Steemit Inc to their own word. I'm advising them to be congruent. They lack congruence and that's problematic.

Andy took responsibility and apologized AND promised to do better. Not sure what you are after here?

He added the word apology after I added my comment. Nonetheless, he hasn't taken full responsibility.

I'm here fighting for people, for them to be treated as human. What about Ned? Do you agree with Ned who still says that the winners were chosen at random even though the winners were chosen by a conscientious decision made by @andrarchy?

There is still a contradiction between the 2. I'm simply trying to uphold Steemit Inc to their own word. I'm shining the light on their incongruence to help them realize they should act in a congruent way as much as possible.

I think if you dislike the way they "Gave Away" free trips, you should give away some free trips and do it better.

:) I don't want to argue with you, I just have to say this whole post seems unusual.

When you give away free stuff, you get to make up your own rules and change them when it seems like you want to or need to, and it doesn't make anyone else less human. I have no idea what point you are making here or why you are turning this into a big deal.

Trust is an important part of human interactions i.e. business investments. Congruence builds trust while incongruence builds distrust.

@andrarchy took responsibility for the incongruence between what they had first written and what they then decided to do without warning anyone.

Ned hasn't admitted to the incongruence.

Trust is a big deal, it's part of any big deal.

If trust keeps getting broken and no one says anything then trust can't be build or rebuild.

I think it's important to work on trust and for this people need to be held accountable for what they say.

Okay, you are the trust police. Look, I usually like you and agree with you on most topics.

In my opinion you are way out of line here.

Well, I go by the actual meaning of the word. That's one, Two: harm was done. Not physical but it was still done. Do you have any idea how many giveaways are there? I've hosted, created, and sponsored one. I'm a leader in a weekly contest where people write posts and we give the winner 35 SBD along with top 10 prizes. I've had friends who'd use the only 2 SBD or whatever they owe to have a give away. OCD had their own steemfest giveaway. This is not something steemitblog came up with and only one they did it. The only difference is all of the other ones committed to what they said. Finally it's a steemitblog. By official steemit corporate. Steemit community members have spread the word about steemit, took hours to make work on steemit, hell it's been like what 2 weeks since we got together to get steem to net coins. Also I didn't say anything about scamming, don't straw man what I said. I used specific words in their original meaning that applies to the situation. I used lying because saying you're doing something and laying conditions, then getting people to comment and take time out of their lives and have them work against themselves because of what you said. Then doing it differently regardless of the fact that you actually got people to do things for you, in this case commenting, mentioning people, commenting within comments, upvoting, resteeming, that is called a lie. Unless lie means telling the truth in your world.

If you apply this situation to anything in real life you'd see what I mean. If you had a brother and your father called both of you and said that he'd pick one of you and give him 10 dollars and says it's a coin toss and then just gives it to the one wearing the best jeans, you'd see why it's an asshole thing. But yeah, instead of us pointing these things out and why they matter we're called "complainers" by the owner, and now referred to as entitled and "throwing a fit" by you.

If my dad flipped a coin and then gave the 10 bucks to my brother, I would say... Hey Congrats Bro...

He didn't give something of mine away, he gave something of HIS away, whether we are talking about my Dad or Ned. Whatever.

what if your dad tells you he's going to pick either you or your brother to give $10 with a coin flip tomorrow.

Then the next day he says "I'm giving your brother $10 because he's older"

Would you still walk away happy?

This whole post has been about, people being unhappy with the rules of a predefined game, changing, when it came time to select a winner.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Don't be transspeciesphobic. He is a llama, not a horse. Really more of a meme llama than a gif llama also now that i think about it.

Dont critise or attempt to improve.

Everything needs to stay exactly as it is.

Gotcha. No problemo

All hail @nedshair

No one wakes up perfect every day. Well, no one but me. That is a subject for another day. You have to understand that if we changed anything around here that people would just have to find new ways to get one over on the system. With steem currently below 80 cents a steem it is hardly worth rolling out of your king sized bed in your mansion to learn a new way to plunder peasants. I am going to need you to stop bringing me down or else I am going to get frown lines and let me tell you the nightmare that turns into with @ned trying to run a flat iron. Best case scenario is split ends and 3rd degree burns. For someone who came up with a currency called steem he really has no grasp of the concept of heat.

If you are looking for improvement... Improve yourself. Accept others, unless you were hired as a life coach, improvement starts at home. :)

Yeah I’d ignore the point of whoever disagrees with me and reply to convenient snippets and try to straw man them by taking them out of context as well if I were you too. Let’s just agree that word, terms, and definition mean something different in “your world” :)

Okay, let's agree to disagree.