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RE: Steem experiment: Burn post #563

in #steem5 years ago

@therealwolf yeah that should be easy to do. I just checked steem-auto which allows the latest vote to be at 1440 min. (Which is 1 day! Hey, who knew?) Why don't you guys vote it at 8640 minutes = 6 days. Pretty much what the farmers used to do, and still do when I am not looking their way :)

@smooth What do you think about that? Fair?

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(voting to counter the malicious downvote not that I necessarily agree with the message or even read it) :P

It's perfectly fine with me. I've been voting late all along, most recently at about 5 days.

Excellent! I hope @therealwolf sees this.

I've reduced the weight on it drastically for now. The real solution would be to either hide those posts from the trending page or to have a separate tab for it.

I am discussing this with @smooth for a while. He says even with a single tag "experimental" it will show up on trending. He says the solution is to vote it as late as possible.

I still like to see no "steem" tag on burnpost and like to see the results.

I didn't say it was "the solution". It is one thing that does reduce trending, which can be used right now.

I mostly agree with @therealwolf that the better solution is for UIs should have better tools for deciding what shows up on the front page other than just votes/payouts. The latter should go on a leaderboard and dedicated curation tools.

Yeah thanks for the clarification. I think we are making progress :)

Thank you for being patient with me.

The problem with being forced to vote at a later time is that chunks of curation rewards are being forfeited. If it all would be randomized, I'd be okay with it, but if it's simply about people not wanting to see burn posts on trending; then this should have a direct UI solution.

While I was and still am a proponent of the SPS, much of it could have also been realized with the current voting mechanism we have today, just by having the right UI for it. So I think it's crucial that we do the right thing for people who want to burn rewards.

@smartsteem uses its own autovote mechanism AFAIK, which is @therealwolf's project. That's specifically why I picked on him! :-)

And there is some human interaction and engagement on a bot post! Viola! This blockchain in alive!

;) I didn't implement comment voting for Smartsteem, which is why I was voting higher on the main-posts. I do understand that people get frustrated with seeing automated posts on the trending page, but this could be fixed with UI. (i.e reducing the weight regarding trending on them, or moving those over to a separate section and hiding them for main-trending)