@Haejin is 100% responsible for this. When you look through his comments on his posts, he consistently has specific users ONLY post on his posts. His posts have no information in them other than just some quick pictures. (His fake accounts all have posts that are similar, just a quick picture of the graph.)
Why would users come to Steemit and make an account, and then give like 50% of their votes specifically to Haejin and Haejin only.
There was also a ton of brand new accounts that were made that were trying to support haejin and that is the only activity they had, ONLY posted on Haejin and upvoted Haejin.
There is a list of probably close to 30 that have been found for sure, and there are a lot more I am sure. It is almost as if Haejin created an ecosystem to himself and is trying to add votes and fake comments to make his post look more legitimate.
90% of his funds come from ONE user who has never voted for anyone except Haejin. Is some secret whale that existed and has gotten 1.2 Million Steem from Bittrex.
I believe that whoever this whale is, created an ecosystem of his own army of accounts to upvote his own stuff and steal from the reward pool.
There is no way someone other than Haejin created tons of accounts to support Haejin and Haejin only. All the comments are very obvious to, they sit their and praise him like hes a god, or compliment him all the time on the amazing posts. AND, he uses these fake accounts to respond to posts on his posts, to make it seem like his following is a lot bigger and more real than it actually is.
You will also see that the upvotes on these fake accounts usually have a higher reward than the other people who comment on his post.
Very mature, kiddo :-) Easier to downvote than to answer. Loving bernie's followers more each day :-)
Please see the below comment where I responded to you.
Ignorant you are.
Oh, wow. I must say this is new information to me, but if this is true then perhaps there is more to this story indeed. Sigh, oh Steem....
Account creation with upvote bots is a huge problem, that I don't know how it is possible to solve without the introduction of digital identities. Even then, there are clickfarms in China. It is for this reason that I can't believe 100% in Steem's future the way things are now.. there are too many ways to abuse the system, and the bigger Steem grows the bigger this problem will get.
Easiest way to solve this issue is an army of moderators with delegated SP to find abusers such as @haejin, flag/downvote until they correct their behaviors. The problem is where to get this delegated SP around millions. @ned or @steemit can delegate. Or, a benevolent whale do that. Or, a group of good whales collaborate to make a fund (e.g. as OP from bernie) to counteract these abusers.
With a research leg such as @paulag and in future using ML/DL/AI, particularly for finding self/proxy vote abusers, proposed fund will counteract them.
It is not on the edge of ethics since these blatant abusers can be easily identifiable. For interest, anyone can look into this tool and find "thoughtless comments" such as "Cute :D, Thanks, Haha........" earning $50 which is potentially $250...that does not look good for steem blockchain.
http://www.steemreports.com/trending-comments/
I think one step would be to work as a community against users who abuse the system. You, me and the whole community can decide for themself (by flagging) if we want to support this kind of behaviour in the future.
I don't know if the answer is self-regulation. Even though it will work for a while, I don't know if it is sustainable in the long term.
Personally, I would like to see a maximum reward per post implemented, regardless of SP. @haejin's posts aren't of great quality and probably don't deserve hundreds of dollars, but may I point out that @ned's post above has already raked in $750 as well?
I am one of those accounts that just have been made to support haejin. I know him from youtube and wanted to actively support him because thats what he deserves imho. There are many like me which are simply grateful for all his work and that's how as an individual you can support him for his amazing work.
You'll never convince them barsic. It's like trying to talk to a flat earther.
I completely agree and you can see where STEEM is heading if the devs will not intervene on these issues.
check the first post about this that berniesanders made. I did some resarch on the data i could find. Dig deeper and make your own mind about this.
This is the only bone I'll throw you and anyone else who has a legit concern about what's happening. This is a snippet from the campaign for the website under my user name:
That's in 3 days. There are no bots I'm sorry to tell you. We have upwards of 50k people viewing our site a week. It's strategy, and organic, nothing else. If you don't believe me, look up the public data on it. 10k youtube followers, 3k twitter followers, 6k steemit followers, and 50k website views a week. No bots. Even crypto-bot isn't a bot, it's just a name. Hope this helps anyone looking for the real story here.
Tell me how this proves anything? There is no proof in this picture that it is your website? Plus, how is it proof that you aren't a shill Haejin account when you are stating you run a website for Haejin?
Believe what you like. I have no obligation to reveal my information to you or anyone else. Just know that you are incorrect. I'm sorry this ever happened. We have worked months promoting and garnering support from around the web, it's not worth risking all that effort to argue about something that isn't based on any facts. And on that note, I would love to see even one single piece of real evidence that there are ANY shill accounts, rather than speculation. Good day to you.
I can't even believe I'm going to do this, but if that's really all you need to know, that it's from our site......here ya go, I'm ashamed for even feeling like anyone deserves to see anything we own, because you don't, but I KNOW there are some actual humans with logical brains reading this. This is really the only other thing I will ever feel the need to share in regards to this conversation. If you still want to think what you do, go for it.
You have chosen a very apt username.
Haejin gets over 50% of my voting power and will continue to get it. It didn't start out that way, he gradually earned that level over time as I could see more and more accurate information. Unlike most people that make predictions here and elsewhere he shares his methods, and has an extremely high accuracy rate. Some of his shorter posts need to be read in context with his tutorials and the information given out on his videos, they are far from uninformative if you are armed with that information, a picture tells a 1000 words. It is easy to make money holding cryptos these days but I for one have made a good deal more than I would have if I hadn't based some of my decisions on what @haejin has said.
I'm curious though, is he supposed to be gaming the system using an army of bots or is it one account giving 90% of his upvotes? With a number like 90% it can't really be both can it?
The ecosystem gives more up votes and comments making it look like his post is legitimate and has a lot more active followers and viewers which makes the huge amount that his post is worth look more legitimate. Basically faking legitimacy through obscurity, throwing some smoke up to hide.
OK there is some logic in that argument, soooo...has he used this elaborate scheme to fool one whale and four or five others like myself? Or do all six of us, real accounts see value in haejin's posts and use our voting power to up vote him perfectly legitimately?
If haejin owns the whale account then he doesn't need the blogs and the bot army to up vote himself. He could just create a new account every few days and upvote any random crap or self upvote comments made by the whale account. Or any number of other ways that would be far less work than actually producing the fake blog. steemcleaners etc don't have the voting power to take on a whale with the ability to allocate circa 6% of the reward pool. So I'm not buying that.
Really, even if everything @haejin says is utter crap or he just decides to post pictures of his dinner every night and gets the upvotes of 5 minnows and a whale, there is still no gaming happening.
Basically you don't agree with how some whale is allocating his or her voting power and somehow that is haejins fault. I have heard many people disagree with how berniesanders and his army of accounts allocate their voting power but they have the steem power, they can use it how they please. It goes both ways.
What is the problem again?
yes, exactly ... some have tried to tell haejins shills repeatedly that yes, the whale has a right to upvote and other whales have just as much right to downvote leaving haejin with what may be left. That isn't his fault.
What he needs to take some responsibility for is that he could be mitigating both sides of the equation by taking some of those short posts and putting them into a couple or even three posts spread out through the day
At one point the system penalized anyone who posted more than four times a day. A situation like this gives support to those who would like to return to a posting limit.
For the record, I have not suggested anywhere that others do not have a right to downvote. I have simply responded to what I see as personal attacks on a man's character.
I am in full agreement that there is a debate to be had over the allocation of rewards. Diminishing returns, caps on payout / posting etc. could all be used.
Call me old fashioned but a CAPS LOCK enabled rant attacking one individual and throwing around words like "rape" is hardly the best way to initiate any kind of adult conversation
have you checked that whale activity?
Yes, I see what appears to be a guy who was not part of the ninja mine but instead bought a f**k tonne of steem a few months back. He has no obvious connection to @haejin that I can see.
Should I be checking for something in particular?
Check this whale activite with other whales. Try to find a pattern...
Also, try to cross dates of when this whale buy steem, and when it starts voting for haejin
oh my gut
I am one of those accounts that just have been made to support haejin. I know him from youtube and wanted to actively support him because thats what he deserves imho. There are many like me which are simply grateful for all his work and that's how as an individual you can support him for his amazing work.
I have been searching for long to find a trustworthy TA in cryptos, I like his didactics and he got me motivated to study TA by myself.
I think you should feel ashamed posting this kind of empty accusations.
Please don't use that link for that. Bullying falls outside of the scope of steemcleaners. If you find a plagiarized post, Identity theft, stolen photos, etc.. then you can report it but moderating of content that someone finds offensive isn't something we can do.
thank you very much, I didn't know about this option. I filled the form and will help spreading the link, keep up the work!
Will be interesting to see your reaction when Steemcleaners cleans all your shill accounts and doesn't touch Bernie.
Your words are treading that fine line between caution and intimidation.
Do not cross it.
for which reason my account should be cleaned?
I got invited to steemit under a recomendation to follow one guy, and one guy only.
Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't exist. I'm not as active on Steemit like you are, I have a life outside of steemit.
Same here. I was actively following him on twitter and once I heard he was being personally attacked I recently created a STEEM account to help aid him. I only follow 2 people on Twitter that provide crypto advice, 1 person on STEEM, and a few on Youtube.
I will say it just one more time before I leave this shit to Devs to look into. First of, I am not sure if you are aware or not, but for MANY (including me) cryptocurrencies is quite a new thing, especially the rise of the altcoins and systems. It was only recently I discovered Haejin who provided me information about TA. I am not providing you in depth details about all my gains and time of starting in investing, but it is just how it played out.
I cannot talk for all other voters/viewers on his posts but this is how I got to know the steem community. If there were more people providing crypto recommendations, whether is was technical or fundamental on Steemit, I would definitely check it out too and upvote, but where the hell are they?? You tell me.
Wanna see how good selfless crypto advice looks like? Check @cryptovestor
Look i have been trying to stay out of this whole thing but I just checked out this account and there is no information for me in there that i can use. The reason i say this is that anyone can talk about the big coins BTC,ETH, and now LTC due to its recent growth. I am still learning the whole crypto game and so i buy maybe 1/2 of those coins because the value is so high and not geared to everyone. Day-trading has become a big part of crypto and unless a coin goes up 25%+ I will not see anything from it on a partial coin. I have used @haejin for advice on the small alts that are affordable to me and are they 100% accurate no but i have made Way more than i could have imagined putting my initial startup money in just 1 coin. I would not have a steemit account nor would my account be powered up atm if it wasn't for day-trading.
If there is an issue with the payout scale than this is something that needs to be addressed but to attack someone who is providing solid advice to those that want it is uncalled for. Is this going to make me power down and close my account... No but it will prevent me from purchasing more steem and powering that up. I have seen posts get paid just as much or even more for someone trying to just profit on themselves and not giving advice.
By your definition of a fake account, I am fake! I joined only because of @haejin after I found him on YouTube by accident, and I now follow him quite religiously along with my roommate who also joined Steemit because he wanted to be able to comment, ask questions and be part of the crypto-analysis community around Haejins Blog!
You guys are flagging completely normal behavior!
I created an account to follow @Haejin and @Haejin only. I don't care for you or whatever content around here. His posts are good an honest and interest a lot of people who didn't even know about steemit before. I follow him since the beginning and yes, he did get exited and started to post more, but that is because he grew and had more requests. And that is on his success. Stop this crusade. It's dumb. If you want the system to change, do not blame him, blame the ones responsible to make steemit.
Absolute garbage. Most of not all on his blog are here, for his blog alone!
We’re trying to learn TA and he is s great teacher.
So he got some extra transition the last few days, so what! Grow up!
He's simply driving traffic from his Youtube channel. Nothing wrong with that.
You all do a lot of research!