TWO STEEM POSTS IN A ROW!!! I AM SUCH A HYPOCRITE!
Well, turns out some people are still locked into the #oldsteem entitlement mindset trying to pick at what's left of the carcass. This guy wants to intimidate me into not downvoting or criticizing his poor photos and horrible diction manipulated to trending through self-voting and circle jerks.
Why, because he is entitled to the rewards. You all need to pay for his investment loss!!! You can read that yourself.
So what is the response, he downvotes all of my active organically upvoted posts.
Good. I will gladly fall on this sword. Make up your own minds about whether this behavior is acceptable. Shouldn't we be demanding that large stakeholders such as this set the example?
Sigh, I've upvoted some of your posts to mitigate some of the effects of his downvotes. Hopefully others will find their way here too
It hasn't been a week yet, things are generally looking a lot better, but now and then something like this happens.
There's a lot of things to focus on right now and we're collectively working and communicating with a lot of major players in the hopes of bringing honest curation as the dominant form of voting behavior and staking returns on this platform.
Eventually, I'll get to slowwalker and likely have a conversation with him, maybe with some of the other whales too. The sad thing about him throwing out those nukes is it means not only did his behavior not adjust in response to the new economic changes, he also signifies that he has no intention to use his downvotes in a helpful way by wasting them bullying smaller users like you (relative to his stake). Surely even if he wanted to continue his vote swapping antics, he could at least find some abusers that also happen to be soft targets to do a little bit of good too?
Anyway it's early days, we'll get to him. Generally speaking I find a combination of communication and action work the best. I don't think he fully appreciates that he is not longer trapped in his voting circle but can fully embrace a better and more wholesome steem by leading the charge in honest voting. Indeed nothing will improve the prospects of our investment more if he would join me as a reformed whale and give back to the community now that it isn't stupidly futile and expensive to fight against abuse. And nothing hurts our investment more than sticking with the old ways of trying to funnel all our voting rewards back into our own pocket and letting the entire ecosystem crash and burn.
The economic incentives no longer punish honest usage more than anything else. I hope I can eventually get through to him and we can all make this a functional POB platform and truly realize its potential as a discovery/rewards based social media platform.
Thanks for your continued support in the fight against abuse even when you have to face something like this. Truly appreciate it
That was sincerely appreciated and way above and beyond. That was a lot of VP you ate up!
What's puzzling to me is he actually attempted to apply some argument to his position, right before he unleashed on us.
He has zero personal engagement on his blog save swooping in to defend himself by skipping past paying customers, to drop downvotes on people who challenge him.
Numerous times myself and others have attempted to engage with crickets. It turns out we irritated him enough to invoke this response. I'm not surprised, we were trying to provoke some sort of response.
I hope something positive comes out of it. I don't mind getting blasted to further that effort. I'm more concerned with what I have powered up in my wallet increasing in value TBH.
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"Invested" is such a liberal term being tossed around here. I don't think I can grasp what's going on here.
Instead of building value, he tanked his own investment by constantly cashing out. The solution? Quick, grab all the deteriorating tokens to recoup losses, $60 at a time. Or maybe he's just bad at handling money? It makes so much sense to spend thousands on a trip so he could somehow "recoup" losses he made on Steem, $60 at a time.
Isn't there a point when it's easier to power down and leave? So, the future "bag holders" can at least try to make something out of this place? Nope. The solution is to mine Steem harder.
That's #oldsteem think for ya. Noted how he doesn't dare to lash back at people like @trafalgar and @smooth. Guess what? They ain't gonna stop flagging him.
I expected this to happen, and the sooner the better IMO. These battles need to be fought now. All of the entitled children need to be exposed for what they are so they can be singled out. This isn't going to change my behavior one bit. I'm not buying top ramen with my STEEM posts.
This sabre-rattling is unsettling. Sounds like war is coming to Steem, worse than ever before. That will be costly for all sides, I think.
I don't think so. Most people are smart enough to see things are changing and will adjust. That doesn't mean some crazy people won't have to jump on some grenades though.
Well, okay. But I consider you a credit to the blockchain, so don't blow yourself up just quite yet!
You see I got a smartsteem upvote, unpaid and manually curated, as part of their new committment to do more of that (and less bit botting) because of the pressure from free downvotes?
That's BIG!! First concrete evidence I've seen of positive changes from HF21. Real world example of free market forces reshaping a financial ecosystem. I'm intrigued, impressed, and inspired!
My advice would be to make your stands, at least, in your own weight class.
That would be the smart thing to do, but I never claimed I was smart! :-)
Yours may well be the more principled approach.
I don't have as much of a problem with self-upvoting (and circle-jerking, the light version of self-upvoting). It's true, how else is somebody who invested 5 grand supposed to get anywhere here? I've tried, with great content (and contribution) for 2 years without a break, and it hasn't happened. I even have a wife and some models helping me produce content and make posts/comments. But we're still barely able to scrape together $0.02 (payout cutoff) without help from other curators, which is hard to come by without paying for it. I don't buy votes, but I occasionally self-upvote or have my team group vote on something so it manages to pay out. I wouldn't attack somebody on the sole basis that they're self-voting. Self-voting garbage (even posting garbage) is shitty and should be discouraged. But self-voting itself isn't a crime. It's not even against the rules, and is in fact encouraged by the blockchain settings, intentionally.
From my perspective, this might have been a sword you didn't need to fall on.
That said, maybe he's a spammer, and needs to be attacked for that. But we can't attack people for self-voting, and we can't even attack them for acting entitled to profit from their investment here. If we continuously discourage and drive off all the investors, the price will never recover.
His retaliation downvotes are lame indeed, but I can probably empathize with where he's coming from emotionally.
Self-upvoting isn't really the issue. I still do it, even though I am phasing it out.
But HE does it with an account with roughly an $8.50 upvote AND a couple of other alts that have $2-3 upvotes. If you combine that with a whole cadre of orcas with $2-4 upvotes, it's pretty easy for him to dig into trending like a tick with little to no effort. Once he gets on to trending, he gives practically zero engagement. As a matter of fact, I've seen him skip over customers/upvoters trying to engage with him to downvote his critics. That's if he even bothers to check, as he's just pushing his steem posts via steempress.
I don't know if I would call it spam, but the majority of it is not worthy of the rewards they are getting compared to the anyone else here. He is well aware that is the argument against him. If he want's to emotionally revenge downvote unrelated posts, he can, but as you can see the community at large is growing pretty tired of the bullying.
And the rewards come out of a pool by the way, the more leaches you have attached to it, the less there is left for people putting in the actual work.
Ahhhh, okay.
But are we pushing away people with money? $8 to you might be a lot, but maybe to others who have more money, that's not very much. Maybe to you that feels like "too much", but to him it feels like "too little"? Maybe to somebody with even less than you, your 25 cent self upvotes are MASSIVE abuse, but to you, that's almost nothing and you see no problem with it?
Just saying, perspective.
And we really do appear to be driving away anyone holding/buying STEEM, which is already incredibly hard to do as the price loses 10% every month for 2 years straight. The price will continue to fall as we drive away investors (people with money).
I'm saying on the aggregate he produces consistent $50-60 posts at least once per day, and sometimes two or more in a day. He is turning right around and dumping those rewards.
To be fair, I don't see @slowwalker powering down, he manually curates, he votes my resteems sometimes, giving newbies a nice boost, doesn't use bot's, his grasp of English is far from perfect yet he posts in English, his content is not spectacular but original as is the photography.
His passion seems to be Temple's, their history and I feel it's genuine. Is everyone simply looking at his big rewards and not all these other factors?
He's may not be the perfect stereotype some of us want to envisage, but I can think of other's who are taking the piss far more than he does.
Is there something I'm missing?
I'm missing the point of what he's entitled to...
In your mind he's entitled to have his posts over-valued because he enriches your experience personally, along with some others. Does this entitlement also extend to retaliating on unrelated posts?
I suspect it's a little personal by this stage. We all have to make our choices.
Therein lies the problem. We let bullies define the rules of engagement on STEEM.
His closing paragraph confused me, is that your advice he was retorting back at you or did he have something sensible to say?
I think he was trying to say if you play nice with him, he will bless you with upvotes...
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This is bullshit, what is this content!!!
Your poste doesn't deserve 16.93 $ !!! Imbecile !!!
These kinds of things are to be discussed on your discord discussion, not to earn a few dollars for crappy content !!!
Do not judge others if you are not able to respect the rules !!!
Says the guy who cant orient a photo correctly and bid bots a couple photos and a few words. There are no bots here, but you are free to downvote if you feel it is over-rewarded. I'm not going to retaliate on your blog or your comment as you are attempting to induce me to.
Have a nice day.
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You know what i mean !!
Downvote is acceptable, but talking badly!!! that's what I didn't like!!!
On the other hand, let's finish discussing your content first, and then we'll move on to mine!
The only thing is that I don't accept that a miseducated person with miserable content like you judge me!
Have a good day, and dont worry, I'm not the person you think I am !
It's just so you can learn!
Kindly
What do you mean? All I did was post screenshots and an evaluation for people to judge on their own.
Please quote where I made a personal attack or insulted someone in this post.
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I'm not talking about this post!!
May be here:
Or here :
Don't you think?!
We can have a discussion about both those if you'd like on discord. I stand by both BTW. But that has nothing to do with this post.
It seems like you want to be successful, but the downvoting took you by surprise. I understand that, as a lot has changed in a short time here.
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Maybe you're right,
The only thing I want you to know is that for me it's just a pleasure, I don't do it for money or to confront someone!
and I was a little upset mainly because for a mistake I made and it wasn't my intention at all, I got such comments! And really, I even started to question the credibility of the platform!
Anyway, we don't need a discussion on discord, the problem is already over :)
Have a good day !!
Talk about 18 bucks, Lmao you hypocrite
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