After getting the TLDR from blocktrades, I agree with the proposal at a high level and I expect many on the steemit team would. These types of specific changes also happen to be something any devs (even @blocktrades) can code and make pull requests for (or even fork into a new repo for the Witnesses!) - and even be compensated for (e.g. thru Utopian). In my eyes the proposed parameters corrects some of the last overeager engineering choices of the past. That said, there are many solutions to better curation - this simplification is one, and many are needed. At blockchain level (SMTs; SMTOracles; STEEM tokenomics); and application level (Busy/SteemitChainbb/etc) controls (Communities/Sorting Algorithms). No silver bullets.
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Could not agree with this more and I would more specifically suggest that every quick workaround that was added to try to micromanage the system despite it being in a very unrefined and questionably-designed state in the first few months be simply removed (and then new, better, solutions be devised to deal with actual problems that occur on a more mature platform with very different overall rules and usage).
Most of these, thankfully, have already been removed but a few remain. Off the top of my head: a) 30 minute voting penalty (including the somewhat bizarre idea to give the extra rewards to the author); b) the arbitrary time-limits on posts and comments (especially comments on the steemit interface, but this is UI-dependent); c) some aspects of the bandwidth rules; d) nearly all, if not all, of the rep system; e) the 'SBD stability' patch.
Amen to that, but only if I can keep my negative rep.
Yes please!
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i hope you will look more into curation system , for example: pay more curation reward % if person upvote new account whom he didnt upvote for last 2 weeks , and pay less curation reward for same person upvotes (so people will not upvote only friends and as example: if blocktrades upvote same person 10 times in month he start with 50% and goes to 0% for curation reward because he upvotes same person) . Also about visibility of posts : its better to have more than 1 algorithm to be able to come to trending (right now its who got more money goes there) may be something like reputation,comments, amount of upvotes and so on .
There would have to be some sort of time constraint to the diminishing returns. Otherwise won't we be discouraging people from voting on their favorite authors? What if an author only posts infrequently? Should someone be penalized for always reading and voting on a poster who posts once every month or two? Or should this be more focused on high volume content creators?
Yes, of course!
This is similar to the idea of 'diminishing returns' to make it less attractive to upvote the same authors (including oneself) again and again. I summarized it like that:
"How about if after each vote on a specific account (including ones own account) each further vote on the same account would lead to significantly less curation reward for the voter and less profit for the upvoted account? Thus, when upvoting an account which I had already upvoted before, my voting power would be smaller than in case I upvote an account which I didn't upvote before."
It should also apply for downvotes to make it less attractive to downvote the same person again and again (the idea of downvotes is not to lead personal battles).
The "curation donation" window actually already has this effect. It is not as profitable to vote early on an established author because there are so many front running votes which donate part of the curation rewards to the author. Unfortunately 30 minutes is not long enough to have made a meaningful impact. It should be longer instead of shorter if we want the type of curation that retains new users on the platform.
Hear, hear and well said. Especially the part about no silver bullets.
The most important thing is that we all acknowledge that things are currently not working near their optimum or ideal level and begin to experiment in order to ask the question 'what could make things better, how can we improve?'
I also like the subtle hint that is time for (non Steemit Inc) devs to yap less and submit more. Or at least submit as much as they yap.
Great! Now a lease of SP from @blocktrades and the like will only result in a 70% loss for the week should I use this power to curate 🤷🏼♂️
Yes, spend on delegation and then curate the bots who hire delegation and return to receive 50% curation, rather than 25% from the pool.
I still feel my solution would be equally beneficial without needing any coding skills/change to the system, whilst still financially benefiting the vote-selling whales and every minnow out there to a far more substantial degree than currently possible.
The two ideas could work in tandem since they don't cover the same grounds, but both serve to defeat the same disease.
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Hi @Ned, there are some very simple solutions to bringing curation to new heights and I tried to distill these ideas as best I can in a utopian.io proposal.
If you do have the time, please take a look, it isn't a very long read.
Curation Lists : Curation with The Power of The Swarm
Glad to see you here =)
Hi ned, i am working at a way more simpler level solution and it will be fun when it is out and i doubt this requires blockchain-level modification cos the solution is quite simple and does allow all parties to win really easily. My mum lost life days ago but she has been buried now and i am using the sadness for more drive, so in a month or so, i hope that this solution is ready to go. Stay awesome
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