I said show me an example of a comment or post that is not able to be read. If it is able to be seen by any means then it is truly not censored. The "money" is also not yours until it is paid to you by Steemit.com.
Every example above is an example of ownership being taken. It would be like comparing the two of us applying for the same job and if I got the job I "stole" it from you. If the job was not yours, I can not steal it, same as if the payout is not sent to your steem wallet it has also not been stolen, you never OWNED it.
It is still potential earnings. It is still the product of work and time. A fine point, but I think it is still a valid one. Like someone stealing your paycheck out of your bosses hand. The person making a post can spend many hours on it only to have it rendered impotent and by the time you address it the 30 second window of shelf life has already expired. The flag also represents an idea which many (such as myself) will find reprehensible. You must admit it is a very hard sell, and member retention will suffer. Too many BIG problems with the flag. Just the idea that enforcement is in the hands of the miscreants, trolls and spammers makes me a bit uncomfortable making a financial investment. If the flag were dropped membership would soar, member retention would be great.
Seriously, I see no upside to the flag. All I see is it killing the platform slowly.
I left facebook because of censorship to come here and find out it is even worse here.
You are 1000% wrong, flags are for the enforcement against miscreants, trolls and spammers.
Easy answer for everyone who finds this place to be over censored is to move on, I hear ONO and EOS will be a lot of handholding and Kumbaya singing. Or in your own words FaceBook is better, so go back there.
See that is the point, you can whine here all day and no-one can make you leave. You also do not need to invest a dime into this platform to make any money. Only those trying to turn it into a get rich scheme ever throw around words like investments. This is a social media platform, 1st and foremost, steemit.com is not STEEM. The value of STEEM is not Steemit, Steemit is the fun site built and run on STEEM just as there are others.
At the end of the day the people who want to cry over flags have the right to do so as we do not censor here but no-one is required to care about your feelings either.
I'm simply warning that the goose that laid the golden egg is going to be killed slowly by the flag. And your response is to "go back there" (to facebook). You are all sitting on the edge of greatness. I am not crying for myself, except that I would like to become successful on Steemit, but for everyone here to have the potential to be very successful. Don't get me wrong. Steemit is poised for greatness. Yet it has a flaw. I think the flag is its Achilles heel. If the platform grows we all benefit. I want to thrive here. I don't want to leave. Look at my blog. I am doing my best to be a good content author and posting every day. This is all we should be thinking about as members. Producing good content without the worry your hours of hard work will be rendered impotent before you have a chance at that 30 second window of (real) exposure that you get here.
You are correct about one thing; Facts are facts, and they don't care about your feelings.
If the flag were gone I would consider investing. But not as it currently stands.
You do understand that there is a limited amount of Steem and once it is gone it's gone.
That means if the flag was gone people who had the money to buy votes into the $1,000's every day would drain the reward pool that is supposed to make things good for everyone down the road.
Users like Jerry would just suck the entire pool empty and there would be no earning for any content creators. Flags were put into effect for community protection, not as punishment. Yes, there may be a few who flag out of spite but over all the flags are the only reason steemit is still paying new users anything at all.
Because if there is no flag, assholes like @jerrybanfield will drive their post to over $1,000's all while conning the sheep. The flag is and always will be needed for community protection.
Unless a flag causes a post, thought, idea or any other type of post to disappear from the platform they are not censorship, they are needed.
Can you link me to a post you have done that is an actual post? I looked and it looks like a bunch of truth meme's and short tweet type post. Do you have any real post or stories? I am not trying to be mean, just trying to see what you offer.
The blockchain was made to have DAPP's built on them, that is its purpose. I don't understand them fully but I do know that is one of the selling points for investors is the ability to build and host them on the chain.
We can only get rid of the flag if we get rid of dishonest people.
I said show me an example of a comment or post that is not able to be read. If it is able to be seen by any means then it is truly not censored. The "money" is also not yours until it is paid to you by Steemit.com.
Every example above is an example of ownership being taken. It would be like comparing the two of us applying for the same job and if I got the job I "stole" it from you. If the job was not yours, I can not steal it, same as if the payout is not sent to your steem wallet it has also not been stolen, you never OWNED it.
It is still potential earnings. It is still the product of work and time. A fine point, but I think it is still a valid one. Like someone stealing your paycheck out of your bosses hand. The person making a post can spend many hours on it only to have it rendered impotent and by the time you address it the 30 second window of shelf life has already expired. The flag also represents an idea which many (such as myself) will find reprehensible. You must admit it is a very hard sell, and member retention will suffer. Too many BIG problems with the flag. Just the idea that enforcement is in the hands of the miscreants, trolls and spammers makes me a bit uncomfortable making a financial investment. If the flag were dropped membership would soar, member retention would be great.
Seriously, I see no upside to the flag. All I see is it killing the platform slowly.
I left facebook because of censorship to come here and find out it is even worse here.
You are 1000% wrong, flags are for the enforcement against miscreants, trolls and spammers.
Easy answer for everyone who finds this place to be over censored is to move on, I hear ONO and EOS will be a lot of handholding and Kumbaya singing. Or in your own words FaceBook is better, so go back there.
See that is the point, you can whine here all day and no-one can make you leave. You also do not need to invest a dime into this platform to make any money. Only those trying to turn it into a get rich scheme ever throw around words like investments. This is a social media platform, 1st and foremost, steemit.com is not STEEM. The value of STEEM is not Steemit, Steemit is the fun site built and run on STEEM just as there are others.
At the end of the day the people who want to cry over flags have the right to do so as we do not censor here but no-one is required to care about your feelings either.
I'm simply warning that the goose that laid the golden egg is going to be killed slowly by the flag. And your response is to "go back there" (to facebook). You are all sitting on the edge of greatness. I am not crying for myself, except that I would like to become successful on Steemit, but for everyone here to have the potential to be very successful. Don't get me wrong. Steemit is poised for greatness. Yet it has a flaw. I think the flag is its Achilles heel. If the platform grows we all benefit. I want to thrive here. I don't want to leave. Look at my blog. I am doing my best to be a good content author and posting every day. This is all we should be thinking about as members. Producing good content without the worry your hours of hard work will be rendered impotent before you have a chance at that 30 second window of (real) exposure that you get here.
You are correct about one thing; Facts are facts, and they don't care about your feelings.
If the flag were gone I would consider investing. But not as it currently stands.
You do understand that there is a limited amount of Steem and once it is gone it's gone.
That means if the flag was gone people who had the money to buy votes into the $1,000's every day would drain the reward pool that is supposed to make things good for everyone down the road.
Users like Jerry would just suck the entire pool empty and there would be no earning for any content creators. Flags were put into effect for community protection, not as punishment. Yes, there may be a few who flag out of spite but over all the flags are the only reason steemit is still paying new users anything at all.
No Flags = No Payout for anyone
BTW, I really do enjoy our civil discussion. Thank you for that.
I just wish we were not talking on a post by Jerry, lol
Then it is the DAPPs the need to go?
They are the villains here?
If so, then why should we all suffer the flag when the problem is a technical one.
Because if there is no flag, assholes like @jerrybanfield will drive their post to over $1,000's all while conning the sheep. The flag is and always will be needed for community protection.
Unless a flag causes a post, thought, idea or any other type of post to disappear from the platform they are not censorship, they are needed.
Can you link me to a post you have done that is an actual post? I looked and it looks like a bunch of truth meme's and short tweet type post. Do you have any real post or stories? I am not trying to be mean, just trying to see what you offer.
Get rid of the DAPPs and the flag then. Easy peasy
The blockchain was made to have DAPP's built on them, that is its purpose. I don't understand them fully but I do know that is one of the selling points for investors is the ability to build and host them on the chain.
We can only get rid of the flag if we get rid of dishonest people.