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RE: A case for autovoters

in #steem6 years ago

yeah this is going nowhere however,

@smooth's and @abit' s whale experiment was run before bidbots entered into the marketplace. It was before HF19 and was used to cancel out whale votes over a certain threshold. I know this because they both flagged my largest ever post at the time (something like 20 dollars) which had received a vote from @thejohalfiles. I didn't know about the experiment until this point but once I worked out what was going on, I left a message of support for them.

When it comes to curation reward, since there are much higher value ways to earn, there is an opportunity cost in not using them but the cost to community is an even narrower distribution. As far as charity is concerned, at least in most countries there is a tax rebate available on the donation, I guess you could equate that to curation return too?

As far as I am concerned, I support people who support the community more heavily than those who don't and, if someone thinks similarly to me but is unwilling or unable to distribute their value themselves, I say automate it, trail a curator who finds value, use it in some way.

And btw, I don't automate my own vote, I have cast 38,000 manually and distributed something of financial value to many, many people over the last year and a half because, I have a long-term view of the platform and I act according to that view. You might have other ideas but, attempting to make ideas a reality takes more than words.

There is no such thing as a selfless act, there is always a return of some kind which means no matter the sacrifice, something is gained back.

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 6 years ago  Reveal Comment

yeah a user is getting built but at the cost of everyone else

you assume that all users bring the same value to the community? That is a pretty big call.

how curation trails are the circlejerk of bidbots and voturbation dressed up.

Nonsense. This depends on who is chosen as the manual curator. You seem to assume the worst in all people, perhaps it is reflective?

the rewards ought to be distributed by consideration after the content is consumed and the attention is given, anything else is spreadshits.

Again, this is BS. someone can offer a great deal to the community but it is offered to people who can't afford to maintain that person. They still need to eat but their content might be utterly useless to me personally. I want them to keep helping people so, once I have made the decision they bring value, I will support them even if I don't read their content.

"my VP is wasted, must maximize profits",

profits for who? me? This is about distribution.

Which manual curator can consume and curate more than someone with zilch sp?

this makes no sense to me.

You're conflicted over supporting everyone, more or less, but then what is Curation and attention and Social Media?

This isn't social media.

Ergo the attitude of milking the cow, maximizing profits (to support those poor kids that I don't even value what they offer, I value their "presence").

You seem to know me so well. It is amazing.

 6 years ago  Reveal Comment

Well, actually this is not true in the physical sense due to a host of reasons as ones potential for focus or attention is not the same as another's and the skill one holds means one can potentially move faster than another and in being able to cover more distance, effectively stretch time. As someone once said, time is relative.

But, even if it is true, it isn't the resources one has, it is how one uses them. You use yours the best way you know how, I use mine the best way I know how which means, we are both maximizers by default driven by our desires. You seem to think you are doing a good job of using the resources available to you, I seem to think I am. But, if you are trying to convince me otherwise, your approach isn't working.

 6 years ago  Reveal Comment

What is it if it's not a social media site?

it is many things for many people. you might see it as a social media site, I do not, that is just one facet of it.