I did not find anywhere that information, but when you see 'Upvote 210% - 300% of your payment ' (on steembottracker) it is normal to expect it to be 210%-300% of your payment(in exact same currency or one that is equal to it, otherwise it is not true), and in a comment it is stated that I recieved 12.5 SBD and that is simply not true, because I recieved ~8.7 SBD upvote.
However, you are not the only bot that does that, most of them do, and ~147%-~210% is still very high, probably highest of all bots, but I needed to check what is real upvote value for some calculations.I like many of your bot features, and full transperency would just make it better and attract more users, and if someone says that ROI is lower than some others(if you change it) you can point out that other bots are not stating a truth by showing false ROI, or you can display both ROI's :)
You don't have to reply to this comment, I just wanted to make sure what is real ROI for some calculations, thanks :)
I think its more like a click bait !!! thanks for bringing up this question. haven't got any clear answer from anyone... This STU thing is very confusing and deceiving also...!!!
You can check http://steem.supply/rewards to see how STU is calculated, but basically
1STU=0.5*(1+x)USD, where x is the price of SBD in USD(when 1SBD was equal to 1USD, 1 STU was also equal to 1 USD) :)
Every time @tipu bounces off the payment because of recovering voting power, you will receive message when voting will be active. Please go to your wallet and if you're using mobile, switch to desktop view to see transfer memo.
As always - it will go as "they" want :D so when I made it in March the price followed my last prediction more or less, then there was the bounce, but I think it's way too early for the enthusiasm ( I mean if people on Twitter were already celebrating their Lambos that they will buy next week - it's time to go down :) ) here you can see the three steps down, and the most optimistic way as I imagine it, so consolidation at this level and then up ( because of three smaller steps up). In pessimistic version , we had three steps up so no three steps down :) I know the "threes" method looks plain, simple and stupid - but it works if used properly ( I'm not saying I'm doing it properly ! ) :) here's a forum link with description
hello @cardboard yesterday i invest 43 SBD with tipu and now i send 4.5 SBD more to invest so the total investment is 47.5, i want to know that the SBD i send now will add to the old one?
No, quite the opposite. The APR might be too high for tipU because all transfers from tipU to an account are considered a payout. So even a refund from tipU increases the APR, which is obviously wrong.
I have a question. If I add up more sp delegation to you after 7 days, then what happen to curation rewards? Let me say, if I update my sp delegation to you from 40 to 60 on 8th days of my first delegation, then do I need to wait for another 7 days after that to get curation rewards of 60 sp? Or just another 7 days of updated volume of 20 sp?
Ah, I don't track every delegation separately so in your example, after delegating 60 SP, your share will increase and by this your curation rewards - so you will receive curation rewards like you've delegated 60 sp since day one. But, the actual curation rewards for @tipU will be increased after next 7 days (payout delay) and by this your's too.
For 40->60 sp that's not a big problem, but if someone would delegate 1 sp, wait 7 days and then delegate 100k sp - that would be a problem :)
Hi! Thank you for your support and program. I have a question.
Your message said " Payout from @tipU | Previous payout: 24.1 hours ago | Total @tipU profit: 324.514 SBD | Your current share: 7.902000% | Your profit: 13.386 SBD | "
If my share(7.902%) of the profit(324.514 SBD) is correct, then isn't my profit 25.6 SBD?
The share is based on the current moment, but profit is added trough voting session. So if someone delegates/ invests a the end of voting session, your current share changes but most of the profit was added based on the share before this new persons delegation.
So share is basically changing almost all the time and profit is distributed after each vote buy based on share at this given moment. Hope I've managed to explain this :)
tipu send 13.144 SBD to chairmanlee @tipU payout on demand: 13.144 SBD earned since last payout.
When you made a refund of invested SBD, @tipu automatically sends any pending payout too. Normally it would be added to your scheduled, 24h payout mentioned in your comment.
Also I found a small bug - when the payout on demand is done, total @tipu profit should be reset to 0. It wasn't, so it continue to add up upto 300+ SBD, normally its around 160 SBD now.
Hey @tipu and @cardboard,
I undelegated 20 sp (by this account @replayphoto) and newly delegated 30 sp (by another account @refactory) just before, to see the payouts with no other transactions.
Does this make any difference which I didn't expect? I think I only changed account (and amount) to delegate.
Hi, I recieved a 12.65 STU upvote(which is about 8.7 SBD), not a 12.5 SBD like you said in a comment, still about 210%, thanks, but not a x3 like stated in a comment, just wanna see is it a mistake or ...?thanks
(on this post https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@promotebot/earn-a-passive-income-with-masternodes)
Hi:) Can you show me where did you find information, that @tipu upvotes in a way, that after the payout you recive 210% in SBD + STEEM + STEEM POWER?
In need to change it to STU and then answer hundreds of comments daily what are STUs ;)
I always consider the post value to be represented in SBD because of the $ sign.
You're right, technically they are STUs but very few steemians know what they represent.
I did not find anywhere that information, but when you see 'Upvote 210% - 300% of your payment ' (on steembottracker) it is normal to expect it to be 210%-300% of your payment(in exact same currency or one that is equal to it, otherwise it is not true), and in a comment it is stated that I recieved 12.5 SBD and that is simply not true, because I recieved ~8.7 SBD upvote.
However, you are not the only bot that does that, most of them do, and ~147%-~210% is still very high, probably highest of all bots, but I needed to check what is real upvote value for some calculations.I like many of your bot features, and full transperency would just make it better and attract more users, and if someone says that ROI is lower than some others(if you change it) you can point out that other bots are not stating a truth by showing false ROI, or you can display both ROI's :)
You don't have to reply to this comment, I just wanted to make sure what is real ROI for some calculations, thanks :)
I think its more like a click bait !!! thanks for bringing up this question. haven't got any clear answer from anyone... This STU thing is very confusing and deceiving also...!!!
You can check http://steem.supply/rewards to see how STU is calculated, but basically
1STU=0.5*(1+x)USD, where x is the price of SBD in USD(when 1SBD was equal to 1USD, 1 STU was also equal to 1 USD) :)
@tipu We really have some problem while gating vote form you.
please set a timer so that we can understand that when we can send SBD \STEEM to take Upvote form you .
so I wish you will set a timer for voting, so on that, we can get a vote from you in a more comfortable way .
Thanks and i will wait for answer
Holy cow, thats a big comment.
Every time @tipu bounces off the payment because of recovering voting power, you will receive message when voting will be active. Please go to your wallet and if you're using mobile, switch to desktop view to see transfer memo.
(open image in new tab if you cant see the whole image)
I have seen that you auto refund the money but i wish you could make the voting more easy for us.
how and when can you give us vote and can you tell me the schedule when you upvote the post and other information about voting ...
Voting session starts every day at the same hour, around 21:00 (9:00) GMT +1 so in around 7 hours :)
You can also try: @tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
The return of 210 - 300% is not correct.
Investment: 8 sbd, I got 7.7 SBD
OK, so are you referring to buying vote or investing? If buying vote, you should get auto refund. Can you show me link to the post?
Yep, seems it was an error on the website.
Thank you @tipu . Your response was extremely swift. I am glad i chose you. Have a great Sunday
My STEEM is sober and down . Damn you bitcoin.
There's no "reverse rocket" emoji so 🚀💩
Just wondering are we back to the overall crypto downtrend or is this only price correction after recent price increases? And uptrend is over?
As always - it will go as "they" want :D so when I made it in March the price followed my last prediction more or less, then there was the bounce, but I think it's way too early for the enthusiasm ( I mean if people on Twitter were already celebrating their Lambos that they will buy next week - it's time to go down :) ) here you can see the three steps down, and the most optimistic way as I imagine it, so consolidation at this level and then up ( because of three smaller steps up). In pessimistic version , we had three steps up so no three steps down :) I know the "threes" method looks plain, simple and stupid - but it works if used properly ( I'm not saying I'm doing it properly ! ) :)
here's a forum link with description
@tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
Actually she is drunk. Don't worry, she will be in her regular state after a rest. Lol
it takes time to incubate
We must get used we the situation! Todays down ,one or weeks up!!
And this shows how important it is to buy coins from ICOs rather the market.
hello @cardboard yesterday i invest 43 SBD with tipu and now i send 4.5 SBD more to invest so the total investment is 47.5, i want to know that the SBD i send now will add to the old one?
Yes :)
Hello @cardboard. I did not receive the upvote for https://busy.org/@cutemachine/food-log-11th-of-may-2018.
Can you please look into it? Thanks in advance.
Done, sorry for the delay!
That was quick. Cheers mate.
Yeah, busy day in crypto :)
And you also changed the Payout text. Thanks. Guess now it is my turn to update SteemDesk. (Will take a while, but I will do it :)
Thanks :) are current steem payouts ignored because of my change?
No, quite the opposite. The APR might be too high for tipU because all transfers from tipU to an account are considered a payout. So even a refund from tipU increases the APR, which is obviously wrong.
Sure, will check it out, I was reseting the service which could cause the problem.
I have a question. If I add up more sp delegation to you after 7 days, then what happen to curation rewards? Let me say, if I update my sp delegation to you from 40 to 60 on 8th days of my first delegation, then do I need to wait for another 7 days after that to get curation rewards of 60 sp? Or just another 7 days of updated volume of 20 sp?
Ah, I don't track every delegation separately so in your example, after delegating 60 SP, your share will increase and by this your curation rewards - so you will receive curation rewards like you've delegated 60 sp since day one. But, the actual curation rewards for @tipU will be increased after next 7 days (payout delay) and by this your's too.
For 40->60 sp that's not a big problem, but if someone would delegate 1 sp, wait 7 days and then delegate 100k sp - that would be a problem :)
@tipu @cardboard. What is the current upvote percent?
210% so 1 SBD gives 2.1 SBD upvote
@tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
@tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
Hi! Thank you for your support and program. I have a question.
Your message said " Payout from @tipU | Previous payout: 24.1 hours ago | Total @tipU profit: 324.514 SBD | Your current share: 7.902000% | Your profit: 13.386 SBD | "
If my share(7.902%) of the profit(324.514 SBD) is correct, then isn't my profit 25.6 SBD?
Same question for my wife ID @julialee66. Thanks.
The share is based on the current moment, but profit is added trough voting session. So if someone delegates/ invests a the end of voting session, your current share changes but most of the profit was added based on the share before this new persons delegation.
So share is basically changing almost all the time and profit is distributed after each vote buy based on share at this given moment. Hope I've managed to explain this :)
I will check it anyway of course :)
Heeere we go, here's our missing profit:
When you made a refund of invested SBD, @tipu automatically sends any pending payout too. Normally it would be added to your scheduled, 24h payout mentioned in your comment.
Great reply. Thank you very much for your kind answer and I wish all the best for you!
Also I found a small bug - when the payout on demand is done, total @tipu profit should be reset to 0. It wasn't, so it continue to add up upto 300+ SBD, normally its around 160 SBD now.
So thanks for making me find it :)
It's my pleasure to watch your bot growth!
@tipu you missed my vote i send you 5.111 sbd. the people who sent bid after me they got vote from you. plz chek
;)
thanks for it
Hey @tipu and @cardboard,
I undelegated 20 sp (by this account @replayphoto) and newly delegated 30 sp (by another account @refactory) just before, to see the payouts with no other transactions.
Does this make any difference which I didn't expect? I think I only changed account (and amount) to delegate.
Nope, it shouldnt do any difference apart that the second account will receive payouts now. You can check status to confirm the changes :)
Uncomplicated article. I learned a lot of interesting and cognitive. I'm screwed up with you, I'll be glad to reciprocal subscription))
... What?
bots gonna bot ;) by the way, check this out: @tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
APR -_-
How did THAT happen? And... how can I get a 29000% APR?
;P lol
Forgot to divide it by 1000 ;)
@tipu status
Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:
That's better