Providing content to Steem that attracts viewership and new users to sign-up does count as contributions but it is definitely not the only type and might not be the one Steem needs the most of right now.
When you get rewarded by the Steem blockchain for your contribution the amount earned should not be in any ways related to the intrinsic value of the content produced but on the added benefit to Steem itself as judged by every Steem-Power holders.
If for example Steem needs about 100 good post every day to keep the current viewership and attract more users, the 10 000 other posts of lesser value are not needed and should earn almost nothing.
With SBD now at about 10$, I believe too much of the inflation is being wasted on undeserving "content producers" to keep the illusion of fairness and that the platform is all about content - it's not!
Utopian.io is a good application of that contribution based model. The content itself isn't what's being rewarded, the content submitted by Utopians onto Steem blockchain is merely a proof-of-contribution, in this case Open-source contribution.
If you're a posting content to Steem, take some time once in a while to reflect and show us how your contribution is helping Steem grow.
- How many people have read your content?
- How many were new users visiting from outside of Steemit?
- What efforts have you done to promote your content outside of Steemit?
- How many people have created accounts to engage in the comment section?
- What kind of contribution the people you've on-boarded likely to make?
- How effective is your content at helping people understand how Steem work?
- How many investors did it convince to invest in Steem?
- What problem does your contribution solve?
- How would producing such content not be possible without the reward earned?
- How does your content benefit from being on a censorship resistant immutable blockchain?
- ... other suggestion ? (Please comments below)
You are very correct on this post. I joined this platform barely two weeks ago and reading through many posts, I found out that most are reward conscious thereby killing the creativity freedom and originality expression. I for one joined this platform for the sake of creativity, inspiration and exposure...And all those come from originality and freedom of expression, that is expressing one's thoughts and inspirations the original way they came free from the thoughts of how much rewards they can fetch you. This way, you would be surprise how much impact you would have on someone reading or viewing your post because he/she would be seeing your innerman (inspirator) in it. Honestly, am really glad reading this post and comments from others who ve read it too, it tells me that am not alone in my thoughts..Let's keep Steemit alive and flourishing by nurturing it with original and self expression posts and comments free from rewards consciousness or focus..long live Steemit!
Great comment, BTW Steemit is a company, Steem is generally what you'd want to wish long life to.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
oh! Alright, copy that...so sorry it's coming late, Just noticed your reply on my comment now, you know am still learning . I humbly appreciate your correction, thank you.
#long live steem# Smiles..
my last post contains a free gift Happy New year everyone!
Many of the things people have talked about are needed, but one that has not been mentioned is long term members being demanding and rude simply because they have a different idea of what a tag is for.
I can understand some tags may have been made for a specific reason, but how is a new person to know of that reason.
A case in point, the tag nature. I write many posts about foraging for wild food. Of course one of the main places you do this in "In Nature". But I have been chastised by a couple of people who do not agree that the nature tag is a good place for foraging posts.
So many things are subjective. It's the old, "One man's trash is another man's treasure." It's hard to pin people down into narrowly defined sections. But it is danged near impossible when no one can agree on what those sections are for.
If foraging and nature dont go together then im not sure whats happening to this world..... i pretty much forage everywhere i go whether its my own fridge, my mother in laws fridge or nature. There is no other better word in the English dictionary to describe the hunt for food. I wish you all the best on your continued foraging quest.
Thank you for your well wishes. I think in their mind, nature is a category more for a nature centered variety of a travel log. But nature will never allow herself to be stuffed into such a tiny box.
I also think that people who have been here longer can either be extremely helpful or extremely pretentious and start policing everything. Everyone should just meditate and chill the hell out lol
There are several big name, high rollers engaged in public flame wars and doxing. They definitely need to chill the hell out.
Yes!!!
this can be solved with a peer to peer moderation system that would make tags more like subreddits. so then things can be re-categorized as needed. But that would require a community effort to figure out a fair moderation method.
I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. I’ve been posting photos from my travels but they seem to have very little value/payout so perhaps commenting and helping to create a discussion based community is a better use of my time.
It is a mixture. You need to post AND comment. You get more votes from posts. But you get more followers and attention from commenting and being active.
Eventually you can just post and let your followers help spread your content.
This model, as pointed out by myself and @droucil leads to?:
WAY MORE CONTENT THAN READERS CAN DIGEST, and more motivation for posting crap to be waded through and thus tiring to users
So current model may be working for the network at this point, but over time, inflation needs to expand the block supply, and the network requires less content and more engagement to attract curation and engagement per post.
Otherwise it will only be the first 100K users that enjoy most Steemit rewards, and a time rip-off for all other users, faced with more content than they can ever browse through.
Meanwhile: We needed communities to help filter all this content, 6 months ago...
People don't need to view 100% of a sites content. In a day, a year, or ever.
Look at reddit for example.
Btw, I didn't really suggest a "model" as much as a method to get actual traction on one's own profile. They could do my suggestion on SteemIt, inside a community, in MSP, or anywhere else they are able to convert their peers to followers.
See the user I was replying to for the context of my suggestion. (It wasn't exactly related to the top level post content)
@netuoso I totally agree with you, doing both things is what is needed to start making a difference. The most important thing in mind is always, how can I add value with my posts, comments. I was thinking about this for so long, and then thanks to @starkerz I got into @timcliff video interview with @terrybrock were he explained very well how he made his own way here, and I reinforced my thoughts on how we can add value here for the platform or for some people.
It was @timcliff , @lukestokes , @blocktrades , @jerrrybanfield , @jesta , @elear who really inspired me in the panel help by @aggroed about the future of the platform, that I had to do something with mny knowledge and the time I had been on steemit. And that is when my idea of creating a full steemit guide of 11 chapters/posts came in, and I spent about the 3 past weeks working on them, and already published the first 2 chapters.
My aim with this complete steemit guide is to help new visitors, new users of steemit, and minnows to understand steemit and the steem blockchain as much as possible and in an easier way, and thus help them make their way on the platform easier from the beginning. And seems it is working in someway. I already got above 100 comments from new people on the platform, and trying to answer questions as much as possible for them, the best I can.
In my reply to @transisto post here, I added the 2 links to the 1st 2 chapters.
It would be great to hear your thoughts when you get the chance.
Actually, I wanted to give you thanks for all your developments for the steem blockchain, and the last one I saw was the one for people to get steem accounts fast with a credit card payment, with already loaded accounts. Thanks for that big contribution @netuoso . I believe @starkerz and @stephenkendal can connect that in the #promo-steem website they are working on.
Regards, @gold84
You're exactly right on stating that members should both create original quality content and comment! It's vital to engage one another here and to grow a following who support your efforts and are sincerely interested in what you have to share. "Great post" as a comment doesn't cut it in my opinion, and shows a true lack of attention, whereas a thought out comment that actually adds something of value even if it is simply encouragement, acknowledgement, raises a question, elaborates on the ideas presented are better and produce more of an interesting exchange between individuals.
I'm not sure I agree. I think that there needs to be space for creators that just post, and curators that just comment...
To be specific: the internet's done a pretty good job of identifying and nurturing the value of creators, although it's done poorly with rewarding them, relatively. But the commenters/participants have gone entirely unrecognised despite them being the core that makes everything on the net possible.
Don't get me wrong, I intend to do both, but I think the key thing that will set Steemit apart, is how it rewards the viewers, and sets up a positive feedback loop where better comments mean more value, and more value means better comments... and this is besides the additional fact that this loop also affects the creators with more exposure.
Same here. It's kind of tough because posting your own content feels like it's what the platform was built to do. Not "blogging" or "posting" feels like not participating. Curating and commenting definitely adds value, but your curation efforts as a minnow are almost useless, and comments certainly add something on "real" posts. But bid bots have created an atmosphere that fills the front pages with posts that people don't care about interaction with. They're just targets for bid bots. I'm guilty of the same thing. I'd like to have some influence here, and the fastest way to get there is to engage in a way that may not be best for the platform, but it almost feels like an ambiguous ends justify the means. The world can't be full of bloggers, there has to be someone to blog to, but Steemit doesn't offer much to the "viewer" so to speak...
Minnows curation needs to be much more highly valued to attract readers and engagement.
Nailed it with that one @surfyogi! If new user upvotes had some impact it would encourage people to stick around and create better content AND connect with the people with whom they find interesting. As it stands 30 upvotes from newer accounts still equal nothing, almost. I think this is a source of discouragement hundreds of people who would be great community additions if they could see past the zero they are "worth" when they get active and try to engage.
I think you nailed it @lorilikes... minnow newcomers see total garbage posts reaping huge rewards, they deplete their Steem power with just trying to vote on even a relatively few items per day, they come after seeing videos over on YouTube saying “come to Steemit and you can vote yourself money” which after they do so, it doesn’t take long to run into the current of some earlier adopters who discuss how they are resentful of people who comment without an upvote and consider it “spamming for upvotes” which leaves a minnow type wondering if they have any proper access to the conversation without running their Steem power out to nothing very quickly just so they can attempt to engage... its comes across as a lot of mixed messages sometimes. Are you supposed to participate or not... what’s the “right way” to do so... it can be difficult to know what your “value” is in these mixed messages.
Like @netuosos said, it's about striking that balance between posting and commenting, but your comments need to also be thoughtful. Low-quality spam comments get no love. What I've also found is that sometimes my comments will generate higher votes than posts I've written. But there are a lot of times where comments of mine won't get anything. And that's a good barometer too. It tells me either a) that my comment wasn't good enough to warrant any votes from the community, and/or b) maybe the author of the post I commented under isn't particularly receptive to me and I should focus my energy on other authors.
When you comment - users may watch your profile. Empty profile - boring user.
While I’m sure your pics are beautiful, I’m about as interested in your vacation pics as the next persons food pics. There needs to be more value added somehow.
Honestly, I just couldn't will myself past the following:
It seems so ridiculously absolute. I strongly disagree.
If you take away copyrights law how do you monetize content? Content data stored on a decentralized blockchain carries a cost to everyone holding Steem.
So if I were to think in absolute I'd say content on it's own has a negative value.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Care to explain your downvote?
Since my comment has got some significant upvotes, I figure I should flesh that out a bit. First and foremost (IMO) steem is a social media concept. The thing that fascinated me most about the place/blockchain when I first heard about it was the alternative paradigm. That is, instead of the usuals like Facebook/Medium/etc where YOU create content but THEY generate income from it, here you get rewarded for the content you create. First and foremost, I think that is and rightly should be the single most important identifying feature of the steem blockchain (via the various front ends). And in that regard, I think it is entirely appropriate that rewards at least in some ways reflect the quality of the content.
The other part of the platform here is the blockchain itself and the crypto aspects of it. I think these are valid points of distinction that deserve focus and warrant the attention of at least some part of the community to help prosper. But to hold that every person on the platform must put the specific interests of the blockchain itself first before any consideration to their own rewards, is too rigid a view IMO. And this idea that I've seen taking hold in comments around the place lately that there's something inherently bad about a member only focusing on a very narrow selection of other users, is kind of authoritarian in my opinion. I'm not an anarcho-capitalist, so I don't expect that we should necessarily be free to award an unlimited increasing amount of rewards to any one individual. But I don't see it as inherently bad, as some comments are getting close to expounding. I think it can be problematic in some circumstances, and that the first recourse to dealing with it should be a community awareness campaign to attempt to more fairly spread some of the wealth if warranted.
That's an interesting take.
Maybe it isn't quality. I've noticed that content range from insightful to BS but the ones that receive the most interactions are what's presented nicely.
I, for example, haven't been the best at presenting whatever I've written. This has made me slowly learn basic coding for formatting (Maybe it's less than basic) and making the content presentable.
Very superficial but humans have developed a need for beauty. Feed it.
No, quality is just as subjective as value. Yes, you can create external metrics for it, but someone created those metrics based on a system of values. Steem(it) is a social network. You get rewarded for the content you create if the community finds value in it. Steemit isn't like a job where you get paid for work. It's an entirely different system. The trick, like any creative endeavor, is to build up a community around your work that values similar things as you do.
Also, Medium pays writers who are part of it's Partner Program, which I am a part of. The problem with that model, in my view, is that the content that pays is behind a metered paywall, and they're not very transparent about how payouts work (at least when I first experimented with it). That's why I like Steem - the blockchain allows you to see what's going on under the hood, so to speak.
Quality being subjective doesn't change what I said in any way. Your argument could be used against @transistos approach of rewarding the subjective "what's best for the platform".
Maybe I misread your original post, which is what informed my reading of your follow-up, but it seems as if you think that posts should be rewarded based on their intrinsic value, as if the quality of a post can be measured objectively. But that doesn't make sense because quality is subjective, especially on the Internet. Posts don't really have a measurable intrinsic value; market value, on the other hand, is signaled by price. If you write something you feel is worth $1,000 USD because of the time and energy you put into it, but the community only rewards it with $50 USD worth of votes, then $50 USD is its market value on Steemit because that's what the community (including you) said it was worth. In that sense, the community decides what is best for itself, which is how the upvote system works. Intrinsic value =/= market value. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/011215/what-difference-between-intrinsic-value-and-current-market-value.asp By putting it on Steemit, you are basically submitting your work to a 'pay what you want' model where upvotes are weighted 'likes.' The fact that you think you didn't get rewarded for what you believe was the post's intrinsic value is on you. You could have sold it to a news site for a fixed price, or turned it into a Kindle book and sold it for x amount of dollars.
Transisto is saying that people should be voting on what's best for the broader platform as opposed to what individual posts you get value from reading. I disagree. Value or quality being subjective doesn't change the fact that transisto's statement is terribly absolute.
Okay, now I get where you're coming from. Your disagreement makes way more sense. Looks like we're on the same side in so far as we're opposing absolutism.
Absolutely agree!
Downvote from @transisto. Doesn't like someone disagreeing with him. Pretty much sums up the ethic of his side of the argument over the last few weeks.
Isn’t a downvote a legitimate expression of their disagreement? Nobody is obligated to elaborate on their opinion.
It's generally held that a downvote is best used as as flagging feature for offensive comments, spam, and wildly inaccurate information. Of course, one can pick their own reasons for flagging, but without any explanation from him I'm free to speculate why he's doing it, particularly based on his past behaviour.
Thanks for that, exactly my thinking...
the problem remains the same.Moneymoneymoney .. Thank you very much @transisto for sharing this information.
The question is also how to monitor roof closely because motivation goes down in many people. they start with good ideas but get discouraged quickly seeing the potential gains and thinking that they will never get there. Some people like me also arrive new and do not know the rules so can make some mistakes. it is to be hoped that these fall on posts like yours. so thanks again,let's work on it and good luck.
Take care
P&U
More users. :) and advertisements from big companies.. $$$
It needs a balanced system.. sorry but some posts are brilliant and get no love. Its hard to keep up. I like the fact that content creators can be paid in Steemit.
I like this post it answers a lot of questions that I am sure alot of us have as a new user of the platform it's nice to see a new way of meeting new people.
I personally use the platform to upload some of our reviews and promote our site users content and other content i find to add to the posts that are relevent but i also believe times are changing and its time for a new way of posting online . At the end of the day should people expect accomplished writers and video creators( Dtube)
I rate your post very seriously. I can understand some of the serious questions you are asked about with the Steem community. I also contribute to the growth of steam but my way is different because it invites and advise people closest like friends, family and people around me. at this time I still have not dared to invite other people because the post is still around 0.4 has not reached 1 sbd. personally I really love this platform. I am new here and now always follow the development of this community and maybe later on I will also create programs that support the growth of steam. and I also want a payment out there valid steem (can be paid with steam). and now I again think about how to bring steem as a means of payment in transactions in the real world.
quality content is not only posts by bloggers with 1000 plus words -- art and music are very poorly supported on steemit and represent real quality and diversity for an audience to read and view. I think the people earning over $100 should have their rewards scaled down to share with the pool a greater amount for more users.
In your example, you say
With people having such diverse interests, it seem more realistic that we need 10,000 good posts every day to keep the current viewership and attract more users.
I know I have had people register on Steemit just to leave me a comment. I know I have content that is unique -- to the whole Internet. For example, you try to find somebody else that actually shows you how to find, identify, and prepare a wild Insidious Gomphodius mushroom. Or that forages and prepares Fomitopsis Tea, Roasted Chanterelles, Deep-fried Elfin Saddles, with Candied Witches Butter and Cats Tongues -- all on one plate! I've shown people how I find and prepare 16 different wild mushrooms, over 40 weeds and wild plants, over 20 trees, and more than a dozen shrubs and vines. Sure, the audience for that kind of thing is small. But there's no place else where that's happening. I've built up a portfolio of unique content that simple isn't available anywhere else except on Steemit.
When I was curating for the @foraging-trail, there was an active community of foragers here on Steemit. It brought people into Steemit and kept people focused and active, because it was a unique international community, with diverse food traditions. Unique and tight communities that are providing value to each other will grow Steemit and keep it healthy in the long run. I'll be ramping up some foraging community-building projects in the new year.
Without Steemit rewards, I wouldn't be putting that content here. No question. In the early days of Steemit, I had an interesting discussion with @timcliff about how to handle under-valued posts. It led me to carve out some of my posts right before their editing period closed. If only the top 100 posts are considered valuable, removing unique content within 7 days seems a reasonable option.
I'll definitely think more about how I would answer all your questions. They are food for thought, for sure!
Can we also earn money from your steemut version?
Some good points in the post. I usually reward writers for original posts and not copy and past. Now, finding good posts is getting difficult each month. I sometimes search in the photography section because the content is original and photographers made an effort to capture the subject matter.
@transisto - it sounds simple but I think Steem needs a 'point of difference' more than anything else. As the platform has grown, so has the content and communities begin to reflect what we see in mainstream social media. Even the fact that rewards (whether it is monetary or not) are now becoming the main reason for conflicts disharmony between individuals and communities is just another symptom of this trend. How can we be 'more' different? A good start would be to do less of the things that everyone else is doing...
Unfortunately most of the posts on the trending page are about steemit and steemit related stuff. These are very time sensitive and I dont think add to the long term value of the steem blockchain in proportion to their rewards. Just my two cents.
Leadership
I appreciate your post because you brought up some serious questions worth asking in regards to the Steemit community. I have been suggesting to others locally to join the site, explaining how the platform works, helping others who are unfamiliar with block chain technology to better understand, and encouraging people to research for themselves. I truly love this site and care about its condition and the members of this community, so of course I want to see everyone do well. I would love to see Steemit grow exponentially in the near future, so I am doing all I can to invest long term by turning my sbd into steem power and plan to do so as long as feasibly possible. I spend time and energy here instead of other social media sites, and make the effort to read what I can in order to potentially help newcomers. Personally, I think putting our efforts into growing the site is critical to its evolution and there are other ways to promote outside of the internet such as simply starting a conversation with an associate over coffee or mentioning to potential members what benefits you have gained after joining. We all can do something!
steemit needs a better control over junk content and keep spammers away from it
I think steemdata will with time give rise to spam-blockers and other value added ad-ons. We’ll have to see how Steem Inc. enable these third part apps in steemit.
The good thing about this platform is there are multiple ways to bring more people here. I completely agree with you about bringing investors into the mix aswell because that is what will ultimately drive the value up! Thanks for sharing @transisto
hello there; i'm just joined and i totally agree. I read about the steemit project on medium; not many months ago. I've opened it a few of time (not many) like a result of my search in duckduck or google. I want to be totally transparent with you, streem community, because the real thing that push me to join here was the idea that here i'll join a dynamic community of technician and pro about cryptocurrencies, cryptography, security, unix and so on. Obviously for sure there's an high level, BUT what a customer see is a lot of trush in sections like hot (some good curves and something else). This is rapid money for angry people correct? I don't think that will be a great approach for a great idea and website like steemit. I don't want to fault at noone it's not my idea.
My idea was, and still is, write about topic that i love: security, unix, etc etc. I've write two articles in two days...i've searched to keep the level high, speaking about the manner of write. I thing that they are great.
And those are only my opinions.
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I agree with you in all words, you can't earn nothing here if you don't buy SBD , the true benefit for steem project too.
great content here, have no value if don't promote him using SBD !!!
A sincerely thought provoking post @transisto, thank you. Time for coffee and contemplation now I believe.
Leadership that isnt scared to get out among the people?
Actual support for all speech, not just the popular?
Less heavy handed control from the top?
Fewer gangs, more we are in the same boat?
Less class snobery?
A sigmoid reward curve that targets lower 5 digit investments?
Leadership that hears what the least of us has to say?
I got more,...but those are the ones that immediately come to mind.
I don't get what you're saying... isn't that what the upvoting and trending is about? So that the crowd rewards the best content with monetization of Steem? Low quality content and spam gets downvoted/flagged and falls to the bottom.
Solid post with a lot of thought-provoking questions! Thanks for this! It is important for every user to consider!
I have just signed up for Steemit and this post gives me enough food for thought for the night.
Very insightful. This post reminds us to share our Steemit posts on traditional social media sites as well.
How much would you say your posts have been worth? What about your excellently rewarded comments?
I'm not complaining. I'm only doing that while SBD is crazy high. (as you already know) https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
To answer this first, communities is crucial. This place is one big stream of content going by. Even paring down the feed causes the same problem since may that I follow resteem stuff. While that is terrific as a practice, the challenge is that people often resteem too much plus, even if I like their stuff, I am not necessary into what they are forwarding.
We also need about 5 more user interfaces to access this blockchain. Right now we have basically 3, which are all US based from what I can tell. The Feds can whack any of those sites and access to the blockchain is made a lot harder.
As for what is provided to steem, I agree, too few think about what they are putting into this. In other words, I dont think most took ownership of the blockchain and made it there. If they did, would they post some of what they do? Videos are great but is there really much added by posting a youtube video and nothing else in a post? If I really wanted to see it, I could use the search on Youtube and most likely find it.
I try to write stuff about where steem is going, the disruption that blockchain is causing, and how things will look with all the technology that is being introduced at a rapid pace. Some might not think this very important but I was told that my optimism about STEEM kept them here, especially after some recent events frustrated some people.
Ultimately, I do not think there is any stopping this blockchain. That said, I agree with you...each of us needs to pick up our game if we can....take it to the next level.
Steem needs to be open for everyone, some just post a picture and some write big blogs.. It's the community who decides what is good and what's not.. but I hope we all do our best to promote steem outside our small steemit world.. Some have access to big sources and some people have to start small.. But if we all participate we will have more people and the distribution model will be handled better..
Like my daughter who started 4 days ago.. For sure she will talk to other youngsters to join steemit..
https://steemit.com/art/@creatisa/creating-your-own-magic-steem-cubes-diy
short posts or simple posts with no text should go to seperate area to not clog up the feed for users who spent alot more time on there post just to be burried by 10 posts that are not even peoples original content...
I think Steemit should be open for all kind of users because it's the perfect platform for it in my own opinion. BUT, right now I also think that promoting and getting new users to sign up is very important! That is why I love seeing those kind of posts in the trending sector. But not everyone can create programs or be amazing at promoting. I wish I was better at it but I do tell people about the platform and I try my best to provide good posts in sectors I am good at. I might not bring in big investors but I can touch the hearts of my readers with my art and poetry and sometimes funny posts. I think we all bring value to the platform in our own way. ( Leaving the spammers and abusers of the blockchain out of that list btw.)
I just hope that Steemit will grow even bigger in 2018 and if we all try our best to help it grow we will all be smiling at the end of next year!
Semoga kedepan steemit ini akan terus bergerak semakin besardengan terus membuat program promosi.
My feel is that there is so much quality content out there that goes unnoticed... right under the radar. So many authors and creators work hard to post quality content and whoosh it goes right to the bottom of the page and no one sees it... this can be quite discouraging at times, but staying active and engaging with the steemit community is where the money is in the long haul, which is why I continue to try and contribute my fair share of the pie in the comments section, as you state.
One thing I am still a little confused about, is how your estimated account value can fluctuate down even though steem and SBD continue to rise??
it's good!
I really don't like this idea now. I think the way it is works perfectly fine and the high Steem Dollar is more incentive to draw better content creators in as well as incentivize current Steemians to do better.
We already have SP holders able to vote with varying weight to determine the value of a users post/content to them. I think that is a very fair system. Sure, it could be abused. But, that's why we have flags as well and any social media on a blockchain is subject to abuse simply because of the decentralized nature of blockchain technology.
There's tons of content that bring people into Steemit through search engines and other traffic sources. To say any content is deemable as lesser value is over controlling. Allowing the users with more SP to have more powerful upvotes is the best way to determine what is good and what isn't. The system is working well as it is. The payouts are great for those who do produce good content. Guarantee that aren't making that kind of money per blog/post/video anywhere else. Well, 99% of people I would guess don't get paid what they do here on other platforms. That is a major reason people will be drawn to Steemit.
Steem needs random display of low rating messages...
So not only whales be visible.
This will improve the situation a LOOOT.
Would be nice is SteemIt would share more of the analytics data for the top viewed posts in a given month.
Would give an idea of what kind of views the most successful posts get and where their off-site traffic is coming from.
Utopians mixture of human moderators and the bot reward is very useful and removes a lot of wasted votes.
Maybe SteemIt could incentivise users to compete with advertisements and conversions. Best performing ad could get a nice earning.
@transisto I am not sure if you ever read any of my posts, but I have to thank you for creating this type of debate here about this important points, and the most important one to think is: are we adding value to the platform, how are we adding value.
It was thanks to @jerrybanfield that I found steemit, so I will always be thankful to him. Then it was @teamsteem who captured my attention with his "books" (because this is how we need to call his very known knowledgable posts), and he made me think about the vision from the creators of the platform and steem blockchain, and I really stuc to it, to freedom, to empowering people, to return the control to us that is were it belongs. So I will always be thankfull to @teamsteem for this quality creations.
And finally it was @elear with @utopian-io who made me start thinking about ideas to help improve the steemit front-end to capture the attention of more new visitors, minnows, new users, to also help increase the amount of retainers. And it was thanks to all this ideas I contributed with, and all the research I made on the platform, that I realized that many of my ideas, needed some backup content, something important compiled for all new visitors, new users, minnows, to help them to easily and faster learn and understand about steemit and the steem blockchain.
It was @lukestokes , @blocktrades, @jesta , @timcliff , and @aggroed when he held his panel, that inspired me to think on my current way to add value on the platform, now. Actually @timcliff asked me about 10 days ago, if I had something prepared for the wallet, an explanation, regarding to some feedback he gave me about an @utopian-io contribution I made.
And that is when I came with the idea of creating the full steemit guide of 11 chapters/posts to help new users of steemit and new visitors, to learn as much as possible on steemit, and thus help them make their way on the platform.
I already published the first 2 chapters, and already got over 100 comments with questions and suggestions, and several needs from new visitors, minnows and new users on steemit, and other people that were already users for several months.
Here are the links to both posts:
Chapter 1 of 11: Have you recently Sign up on Steemit and Don't know what to do First - Basic Things for New People make their way easier on the Platform - Part 1: What you need to know to be more confident & get rewarded on the platform?
https://steemit.com/steem/@gold84/chapter-1-of-11-have-you-recently-sign-up-on-steemit-and-don-t-know-what-to-do-first-basic-things-for-new-people-make-their-way
Chapter 2 of 11: Focusing on the Details of the Steem Wallet to learn as much as possible How to use it - Transfer Steem SBD - Convert it to ETH LTC Bitcoin or other Crypto - This is part 2 of the 11 Chapters (Full Guide) to help new people make their way
https://steemit.com/steem/@gold84/chapter-2-of-11-focusing-on-the-details-of-the-steem-wallet-to-learn-as-much-as-possible-how-to-use-it-transfer-steem-sbd
Thank you for reading this, and look forward to continue hearing from you.
Regards, @gold84
Honestly, I see a lot of great posts from others but are not given much attention. It is not guaranteed here that if you have talent you’ll get the attention you deserve.
Utopian.io is awesome.
I try to do as many post as possible Ivan utopia because I want to improve the platform and give some value.
Today I published a suggestion about a categorization system in your blog.
Unfortunately it have not been seen and rewarded much yet..
Seems that My reach still is not big enough..
These days since the sbd price is that high, there are much more posts.
Unfortunately amongst those are many posts of low quality..
though this many good posts drown and don‘t get seen at all.
Wish there would be an opportunity to divide good quality from bad quality, but of course quality is subjective.
I hope that in the end good quality will go about bad quality and the time and effort for some people will pay off..
Definitely will be revisiting, or more so asking myself these questions when creating posts.
I think we obviously need more users, but quality users who really contribute. Not only contribute, but invest.
Promoting steem in outlets such as social media as I do, is great, and brings readers. But it doesn't much bring investors.
Allowing Crypto investors (your audience) to support you via Steem upvotes on dlive is one of the best way to show these investors the value of the platform. Keep the good work, it'll pay off!
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
I'm sticking to it! Thanks so much!❤
In my opinion, what Steemit needs to to prosper is not so much the often praised quality, but variety. Even a million quality posts about the block chain and BTC are not gonna attract masses of new users.
There is nothing wrong with posts about food, videos, music, memes , writing and god knows what else. Steemit is entertainment, not a school. Nobody wants to get told what he is supposed to read because it's supposedly "quality content", or how he has to write his posts to meet certain demands.
But of course also Steemit needs to improve its UI to make better use of this variety. So far the UI is a obstacle in making Steemit attractive to "the masses".
The flaw in the setup is content is buried so fast by everything else that people are feeling compelled to post stuff every few minutes to hit all their followers feed for a few minutes, and then proceed to the next post. I think if there were something like "per user weight rating" of say for example their top 1-5? current viewer input posts and then forget the rest or they would have to be manually searched within a given poster's cue. This would be tough for programming but would crack down on the 5 minute news cycle that we see from some posters.
Contribution / Content / Effort / Originality / Vision - so many things to take into account to make this platform world class and one that other's will desire to replicate and emulate. Getting sucked into a vacuum of selfishness is the opposite of decentralization, it is the dark soul of money that perverts everything into power structures, over and over again.
Currently what steemit need is to allow advertiser, advertise their product while payment for advertisement will be in form of steem dollars and steem. That is they will have to cover any of their currency into steem or steem dollars with this we will have more investors in the platform. Advertiser will have a separate account use for creating product awareness. Account like that will not have access to upvoting or curating post, as there will be daily reduction in the deposited amount, just like the way other social media have been running their ads.
A separate business account for advertisement without access to curate post will help to encourage alot of investment in steem and steem dollars and also help to prevent any form of idle storage of steem or steemdollars in an account.
@transisto this is the little contribution from my own perspective.
I think it's only a matter of short time before advertisers realise the massive potential of steem. With a public blockchain full of user data, and an easy system to automate delivery of ads cheaply to specific users (0.001 STEEM in a memo), it's going to happen.
In fact I've thought of creating an app that let's users set a price to click on an add. Advertisers can decide, based on the public user data, whether the price is worth paying. But I don't know anything about the advertising industry, and also don't want to be the first person to introduce ads here.. ;)
It will be a very good if you can seek more information before proceeding on your project.
Ha, yeah I won't be doing this. It seems like a good way to generate some income for somebody, but you'd have to have contacts in the advertising industry, I'd reckon. I have half a contact, but that's not enough for me to get motivated to do something. :)
smile, one more connection may be all you need to get other connection.
It's one of those evil temptations. I really fucking hate the advertising industry. But on the other hand, I'm desperately poor, so I could make some money to help my own situation. Thankfully I really don't know enough about the industry to take something like this on, so thankfully the decision has been more or less made for me.
NO ADS!! that’s one of the points of differentiation between Steemit and other platforms. Ads ruin everything
Cosign that ^^^
"How many were new users visiting from outside of Steemit?"
I did post one of my blogs to Reddit and it got a great number of total views, but the payout was still low. I thought total number of views would count for something, but it seems the only way to get a high payout post is for whales to vote for you.