I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. I’ve been posting photos from my travels but they seem to have very little value/payout so perhaps commenting and helping to create a discussion based community is a better use of my time.
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It is a mixture. You need to post AND comment. You get more votes from posts. But you get more followers and attention from commenting and being active.
Eventually you can just post and let your followers help spread your content.
This model, as pointed out by myself and @droucil leads to?:
WAY MORE CONTENT THAN READERS CAN DIGEST, and more motivation for posting crap to be waded through and thus tiring to users
So current model may be working for the network at this point, but over time, inflation needs to expand the block supply, and the network requires less content and more engagement to attract curation and engagement per post.
Otherwise it will only be the first 100K users that enjoy most Steemit rewards, and a time rip-off for all other users, faced with more content than they can ever browse through.
Meanwhile: We needed communities to help filter all this content, 6 months ago...
People don't need to view 100% of a sites content. In a day, a year, or ever.
Look at reddit for example.
Btw, I didn't really suggest a "model" as much as a method to get actual traction on one's own profile. They could do my suggestion on SteemIt, inside a community, in MSP, or anywhere else they are able to convert their peers to followers.
See the user I was replying to for the context of my suggestion. (It wasn't exactly related to the top level post content)
@netuoso I totally agree with you, doing both things is what is needed to start making a difference. The most important thing in mind is always, how can I add value with my posts, comments. I was thinking about this for so long, and then thanks to @starkerz I got into @timcliff video interview with @terrybrock were he explained very well how he made his own way here, and I reinforced my thoughts on how we can add value here for the platform or for some people.
It was @timcliff , @lukestokes , @blocktrades , @jerrrybanfield , @jesta , @elear who really inspired me in the panel help by @aggroed about the future of the platform, that I had to do something with mny knowledge and the time I had been on steemit. And that is when my idea of creating a full steemit guide of 11 chapters/posts came in, and I spent about the 3 past weeks working on them, and already published the first 2 chapters.
My aim with this complete steemit guide is to help new visitors, new users of steemit, and minnows to understand steemit and the steem blockchain as much as possible and in an easier way, and thus help them make their way on the platform easier from the beginning. And seems it is working in someway. I already got above 100 comments from new people on the platform, and trying to answer questions as much as possible for them, the best I can.
In my reply to @transisto post here, I added the 2 links to the 1st 2 chapters.
It would be great to hear your thoughts when you get the chance.
Actually, I wanted to give you thanks for all your developments for the steem blockchain, and the last one I saw was the one for people to get steem accounts fast with a credit card payment, with already loaded accounts. Thanks for that big contribution @netuoso . I believe @starkerz and @stephenkendal can connect that in the #promo-steem website they are working on.
Regards, @gold84
You're exactly right on stating that members should both create original quality content and comment! It's vital to engage one another here and to grow a following who support your efforts and are sincerely interested in what you have to share. "Great post" as a comment doesn't cut it in my opinion, and shows a true lack of attention, whereas a thought out comment that actually adds something of value even if it is simply encouragement, acknowledgement, raises a question, elaborates on the ideas presented are better and produce more of an interesting exchange between individuals.
I'm not sure I agree. I think that there needs to be space for creators that just post, and curators that just comment...
To be specific: the internet's done a pretty good job of identifying and nurturing the value of creators, although it's done poorly with rewarding them, relatively. But the commenters/participants have gone entirely unrecognised despite them being the core that makes everything on the net possible.
Don't get me wrong, I intend to do both, but I think the key thing that will set Steemit apart, is how it rewards the viewers, and sets up a positive feedback loop where better comments mean more value, and more value means better comments... and this is besides the additional fact that this loop also affects the creators with more exposure.
Same here. It's kind of tough because posting your own content feels like it's what the platform was built to do. Not "blogging" or "posting" feels like not participating. Curating and commenting definitely adds value, but your curation efforts as a minnow are almost useless, and comments certainly add something on "real" posts. But bid bots have created an atmosphere that fills the front pages with posts that people don't care about interaction with. They're just targets for bid bots. I'm guilty of the same thing. I'd like to have some influence here, and the fastest way to get there is to engage in a way that may not be best for the platform, but it almost feels like an ambiguous ends justify the means. The world can't be full of bloggers, there has to be someone to blog to, but Steemit doesn't offer much to the "viewer" so to speak...
Minnows curation needs to be much more highly valued to attract readers and engagement.
Nailed it with that one @surfyogi! If new user upvotes had some impact it would encourage people to stick around and create better content AND connect with the people with whom they find interesting. As it stands 30 upvotes from newer accounts still equal nothing, almost. I think this is a source of discouragement hundreds of people who would be great community additions if they could see past the zero they are "worth" when they get active and try to engage.
I think you nailed it @lorilikes... minnow newcomers see total garbage posts reaping huge rewards, they deplete their Steem power with just trying to vote on even a relatively few items per day, they come after seeing videos over on YouTube saying “come to Steemit and you can vote yourself money” which after they do so, it doesn’t take long to run into the current of some earlier adopters who discuss how they are resentful of people who comment without an upvote and consider it “spamming for upvotes” which leaves a minnow type wondering if they have any proper access to the conversation without running their Steem power out to nothing very quickly just so they can attempt to engage... its comes across as a lot of mixed messages sometimes. Are you supposed to participate or not... what’s the “right way” to do so... it can be difficult to know what your “value” is in these mixed messages.
Like @netuosos said, it's about striking that balance between posting and commenting, but your comments need to also be thoughtful. Low-quality spam comments get no love. What I've also found is that sometimes my comments will generate higher votes than posts I've written. But there are a lot of times where comments of mine won't get anything. And that's a good barometer too. It tells me either a) that my comment wasn't good enough to warrant any votes from the community, and/or b) maybe the author of the post I commented under isn't particularly receptive to me and I should focus my energy on other authors.
When you comment - users may watch your profile. Empty profile - boring user.
While I’m sure your pics are beautiful, I’m about as interested in your vacation pics as the next persons food pics. There needs to be more value added somehow.