Didn't we had this conversation back in Curie when you realized I never took a single dime and you backed off?
We have never had a discussion in Curie. And I never had a reason to "back off" because I have never attempted to "attack" anybody. I have been respectful, including in my conversations with @donkeypong, @hanshotfirst, and @ned.
Now, if you feel the need to continue trolling, I would suggest that you reconsider. You're not exactly making yourself look good here. If you would rather prefer to have an honest and respectful discussion, I would appreciate that.
And you voted the Wingz comment with your trail instead of this rather less flattering part of the tree. So it looks like that one has 65 votes. Steem Guild members have NEVER been that sleazy. You are the one who owes this community some transparency and accountability. Well played, David, sir.
@ats-david I love that you wrote this, and it brought back many conversations we had when users, including myself were questioning steemvoter and ozcharts.. It is the same conversation. Bots voting up the same users every day, sometimes multiple times a day.
The end result is SteemIt isn't lotteryish at all. We can all guess who will trend tomorrow. The community grows weary, and we rinse and repeat. I guess it doesn't matter what "side or group" you are in. It just feels scamy.
We have never had a discussion in Curie. And I never had a reason to "back off" because I have never attempted to "attack" anybody. I have been respectful, including in my conversations with @donkeypong, @hanshotfirst, and @ned.
lol i think hes confusing you with me. Back when curie first started up, i commented on a post that i was skeptical about the effectiveness of the model because the way it funded itself (curie posts and curie founders getting thousands in rewards for statistics and self congratulation) worked at cross-purposes to its stated intent (getting more money to those producing quality content).
The response was a slew of profanity, threats and assorted nonsense in both chat and the thread. Including threats of a blacklist (which were later deleted and revised. Apparently in whatever language they speak on the alien's home planet the word "blacklist" means "mute-button". Who knew.)
When another user (who quit soon after) saw the absurd rant in chat, he posted about it, but was pressured by curie to remove the post.
@the-alien I would have preferred you to answer the criticisms leveled against Steem Guild rather than go straight on the offensive. Whether hypocrite or not, @ats-david has raised some issues which I'd like to see discussed. That's fair isn't it?
Using people's voting train AGAINST their consent to start trouble on toxic comments, and voting himself all the time while pointing the finger. That's huge!
I would like to see an update or a post about why he does that.
Maybe we should leave making a diagnosis such as sociapathy to the professionals. We probably don't have the data to back up such claims and it could look a lot like flaming. Just my best advice here, not picking sides.
I'm sorry that semantics overshadowed the context for you. But I agree, it's just semantics, and in case someone is a grammar Nazi, or god forbid, someone who wanna focus on small loose words to divert for the context...
You're right that is no data to back that up. Luckily, you are not pick up sides here, and we have plenty of data to focus on, data about:
Massive lies about retention and otherwise, deceit, abuse of vote trails to make certain comment trend, tremendous hypocrisy... And that's just the surface.
Answer the question, don't be evasive.
True or false, you are the biggest hypocrite in here upvoting yourself with @tombstone while pointing fingers?
Didn't we had this conversation back in Curie when you realized I never took a single dime and you backed off? Or was it another one?
But is @steemship correct? Are you showing huge signs of hipocrisy? Do you or do you not upvote ALL your posts and point the finger?
Do you or do you not upvote comments (the toxic ones with dangerous accusations) with people's train without their consent to start trouble?
You know, like sociopaths do?
Do you do that? or is it false?
We have never had a discussion in Curie. And I never had a reason to "back off" because I have never attempted to "attack" anybody. I have been respectful, including in my conversations with @donkeypong, @hanshotfirst, and @ned.
Now, if you feel the need to continue trolling, I would suggest that you reconsider. You're not exactly making yourself look good here. If you would rather prefer to have an honest and respectful discussion, I would appreciate that.
And you voted the Wingz comment with your trail instead of this rather less flattering part of the tree. So it looks like that one has 65 votes. Steem Guild members have NEVER been that sleazy. You are the one who owes this community some transparency and accountability. Well played, David, sir.
I am respectfully asking valid questions. Trolling is something else.
Trolling is when you use people's vote trains to vote on toxic comments, that is trolling ;)
I'm all for honesty. Since we are on honesty.
Do you abuse people's vote trains AGAINST their consent to vote on toxic comments?
You see that is not very honest, now is it?
Is @steemship correct with the massive hypocrisy question or is he wrong? Do you vote ALL your posts while pointing the fingers?
I rest my case.
@ats-david I love that you wrote this, and it brought back many conversations we had when users, including myself were questioning steemvoter and ozcharts.. It is the same conversation. Bots voting up the same users every day, sometimes multiple times a day.
The end result is SteemIt isn't lotteryish at all. We can all guess who will trend tomorrow. The community grows weary, and we rinse and repeat. I guess it doesn't matter what "side or group" you are in. It just feels scamy.
lol i think hes confusing you with me. Back when curie first started up, i commented on a post that i was skeptical about the effectiveness of the model because the way it funded itself (curie posts and curie founders getting thousands in rewards for statistics and self congratulation) worked at cross-purposes to its stated intent (getting more money to those producing quality content).
The response was a slew of profanity, threats and assorted nonsense in both chat and the thread. Including threats of a blacklist (which were later deleted and revised. Apparently in whatever language they speak on the alien's home planet the word "blacklist" means "mute-button". Who knew.)
When another user (who quit soon after) saw the absurd rant in chat, he posted about it, but was pressured by curie to remove the post.
@the-alien I would have preferred you to answer the criticisms leveled against Steem Guild rather than go straight on the offensive. Whether hypocrite or not, @ats-david has raised some issues which I'd like to see discussed. That's fair isn't it?
Sure, all the answers are here.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@donkeypong/steem-guild-another-important-update
Now, let's go back to the subject.
Using people's voting train AGAINST their consent to start trouble on toxic comments, and voting himself all the time while pointing the finger. That's huge!
I would like to see an update or a post about why he does that.
They don't seem to be interested, obviously.
Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit.
If ATSD's followers don't like what hes upvoting, they can tell him with their feet.
Indeed. He apparently does not know how Streemian trails work. Rather than find out, he chooses ad hominem arguments.
Wow! What planet do you come from anyway?
@ats-david just wants to have a discussion.
Tranquilo amigo
Maybe we should leave making a diagnosis such as sociapathy to the professionals. We probably don't have the data to back up such claims and it could look a lot like flaming. Just my best advice here, not picking sides.
for great justice, take off every zig?
I'm sorry that semantics overshadowed the context for you. But I agree, it's just semantics, and in case someone is a grammar Nazi, or god forbid, someone who wanna focus on small loose words to divert for the context...
You're right that is no data to back that up. Luckily, you are not pick up sides here, and we have plenty of data to focus on, data about:
Massive lies about retention and otherwise, deceit, abuse of vote trails to make certain comment trend, tremendous hypocrisy... And that's just the surface.
Thank you, and have a good weekend.
It's not that it did for me, but it might for other readers is what I'm saying. Ok, a great weekend to you too.
Have a great weekend too!