the "they simply arent doing it" question is one of those chicken-or-the-egg questions that always gets brought up when people don't want to recognize a cultural pressure or scenario that does not give everyone an equal footing. Women CAN work to become witnesses and they totally should. But there are particular challenges that they face when trying to step out front as leaders, that most men never have to face. Many women give up if those challenges keep flying at them and they see that men are havingt an easier time climbing the ladder. Anyway there are TOMES of data and information available online and in books and so on that explain why and how cultual biases and systemic issues do make it more challenging. I am not sure why you say most women dont want to bother with it. The core of that issue is also the same problem. I am a part of many womens leadership groups in a few different feilds. Some feilds have more diversity than others. Crypto and blockchain are not one of those feilds and its not because women dont WANT to bother with it. Its deeper and more nuanced than that.
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Bullshit. I knew someone would bring this up. Some vague boogieman that somehow prevents woman from doing the activities above.
Again, if you wanted to become a witness, what specifically would prevent you from doing the activities above? If there are tomes of data, then feel free to specifically quote something. Don't let me hold you back.
Nothing prevents women from getting into crypto-currencies and blockchains. All the software, wallets, computers, etc are freely available or purchasable by women.
Be specific, what challenge would emerge that would prevent a women from being a witness, that a man wouldn't face?
Put the responsibility in the right place, most women choose not to do these things.
I don't want to get into a big debate of this kind with someone who doesn't want to hear about the issues. It is not access as much as it is attitudes and subtle bias that push back when women enter these spaces. Its not a boogieman. Its also not IMPOSSIBLE to deal with but it does deter a lot of women who would rather not deal with it. That is where the choice part does lie. Some women keep pushing through and they succeed. There are just many more who will give up when they are treated for example like sex objects, or like people think they are trying to be sex objects, day in and day out at work.. or when a woman says her idea in a meeting and then 3 seconds later a man says the exact same thing and acts like it was his idea. Or when a woman stands up to present a plan when she is in a leadership position, her ideas get picked apart in a way that never happens to men. The standards are often different. Not always. but often enough to make it really tiring. This stuff happens in tiny ways continuously and some women are deterred by it and some are not. I agree with you thats a choice that women do make when they step out of those scenarios. Sometimes they do it for their health though. But it definitely happens in a very large scale way. It is not a barrier in the sens that you are trying to make it, where there is just a big NO sign and no access and a boogyman. There are just lots of tiny things along the way that add up. I dont want to get in a pissing match over it though. If you dont agree or believe this that is sincerely alright with me.
And I don't like to debate someone who puts words into my mouth or attempts to strawman my position.
Exactly where did I say that I didn't want to hear the issues? Didn't I do precisely the opposite in fact and ask you for specific examples and quotes from all those Tomes of books?
To your point about sex objects, no one treats Patrice like a sex object. I have never seen this. At least, no one who matters, there is always some random minnow or asshole, but I get random insults from no-name minnows myself.
Welcome to the Internet, eveyone needs a thick skin, not just women.
Wow, tell me how I can enter this magic universe where my ideas never get picked apart. Everyone's ideas get picked part in Steemit. You are picking apart my ideas right now, oops, better shutdown my witness...or maybe not. I'm picking apart your ideas. Are you going to leave Steemit now?
Women live longer than men on average. If this is a health issue, then shouldn't women have the advantage here?
I do call it a boogyman, because it exists mostly in the minds of people who need an excuse never to try anything that takes effort, or as an excuse on why they gave up.
Defeat this boogyman and be amazing. Do the things you want to do.
Oh and I wasnt talking about Steemit at all when i said the thing about ideas getting picked apart. I actually havent had the experience of anyone picking apart my ideas here. I have had a lot of productive and interesting conversations with people who I dont necessarily agree with. That is why I like it so much here. I have seen a lot of cool things. I have been talking about leadership roles in general, in the world, like especially in the workplace. I wasnt really talking about Steemit with that example.
I am really not coming at you in a combative way. I am also not trying to strawman anything. I am expressing my opinion and its okay with me if you disagree. I am not really going to change my position and I don't think you are going to change yours. One thing I have appreciated at Steemit so far has been less of that "sparring" type of conversation , and a lot more of people just talking together. I really am not having any sort of interest in changing what you think . So when I stated my opinions I was stating them as mine, not yours. I in fact actually do the things I want to do, and I am not as deterred as some people are, or as in other times in my life. I am pretty comfortable stepping into leadership roles. I was trying to give voice to something I had experienced or observed, and that is from my perspective, only. I am sorry you have been taking my words as more aggressive than they are or like I am trying to box you into something. I really am just sharing. Take care.
I am this close to setting up a witness server just to prove you wrong. ;)
#imtheboogywoman
Dooo it!
(I'm confused though--who are you trying to prove wrong?)
Not sure. The world?
I would love it if you set up a witness, but you won't do it. You don't have the guts. You don't have what it takes.
Imagine you setting up a witness and getting voted up even higher than me, the mighty Neoxian! Ha ha, it is to laugh.
I taunt you!
Interesting, no one one steemit has yet to accuse me of lack of guts. I see what you did there. :)
But seriously: I've given it some thought. I have enough support and friends to crawl up the witness ranks. Maybe not pass my beloved friend steempty, but I can get some votes and sign some blocks and make some SP to support my community.
Why don't I? Lack of guts? I wish.
https://steemit.com/blog/@techslut/what-is-techslut-up-to-now-why-i-barely-publish-posts-lately
Between marketing utopian.io , managing the Israeli community, managing 3 relationships and writing a book while having chronic pain and fatigue? My little plate is more than full. If I run a witness, I will need to dedicate even more time to steemit, the community and bloody politics (which is the part I hate). I don't think it would be fair of me to go into witnessing half-assed and without being able to really commit.
But I do think about it quite a bit, and odds are that enough poking on discord and a few beginner guides will make me set up a node and start playing around. It's techy, and I can't resist. It's in my name.
notice 12% @techslut ;) hehe
12% techslut what?
12% upvote to your comment set up as a witness! I think you should do it! and I make great tea :)
Feminism, heh. Replying to myself so I can track down this chat I had 5 years ago.