You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: So this is steemit ...

in #steemit7 years ago

the post you made is about some kind of scientific research , honestly a post i never would read because i already have problems reading that kind of info in my native language.

wow that is a lot of material made by other people indeed, have you actually tried to contact the creators if you may use it for a journalistic publishing with naming them as creator ? Cause that is how most news websites work these days. You do give credit (except for the videos for some reason) and make your own story around it already . The only thing you should need is permission to use it from the creators.

If people keep doing this sooner or later some copyright authority is going to knock on the door and is going to demand legal actions.
If people would use my pictures to make money and not pay me for using my material i would be pissed. After all we all have bills to pay at the end of the month.

Sort:  

Well, see the problem is that the topic itself is kindof controversial and difficult to find good information on. I resent the default that if I post something I will automatically be eligible to get crypto and fame when really I do the same thing on other social media sites and everyone would consider it a normal exchange of information socially. Like Social Media. I didn't write that post for the cash rewards, I wrote it because it took me over a decade to wrap my head around all that informaiton and find quality sources. Stan Meyers is dead, some believe because of his work on this topic, same with numerous others I won't go into here, but that's kindof not my deal. I know you probably treat this exclusively as a money maker that fits into your own interests or choice of content to put out. But I don't feel that that attitude is healthy, for me. If you can feed yourself on Steemit, awesome. But the vast majority on here are probably lucky to make predictable funds regardless of how noble or twisted their means are. Sooooo in light of what you are saying, here is my middle ground: https://steemit.com/technology/@ecoknowme/new-electric-vehicle-record-1200km-on-a-single-charge I want people to know about this guy, HIGHLY doubt he has time to do both his passion, YouTube and start a new Social Media platform while breaking world records. I referenced his page, provided links to the companies/ projects mentioned, alluded to a superior technology in a hyperlink and linked to a related article I wrote, all while tying it together in my own unique and quirky way. The video is his, the context, additions and the fact that I am the one to introduce it into your consciousness are on Me, So, what do I do here? write a story or a poem, tell him to join steemit like I have attempted to do on multiple occasions? Ben Falk, Curtis Stone, Cullen Smith, Mira Prabhu the list goes on and on.... their audience is on other platforms, but the Steemit community may or may not know. Help me find the line. Shall we just wait for the entire internet to repopulate itself over here?

it's not about the amount of money one makes it's about the fact that they make money with it. You want people to educate nothing wrong with that still you link to websites and still you could ask permission from those websites for using the videos. almost every /News website on the net work like that these days they hardly purchase content anymore , look on twitter if people post a picture of an incident in no time all kinds of news website are begging if they can use that picture , but they won't pay but at least they ask before they use it. Ben Falk, Curtis Stone, Cullen Smith, Mira Prabhu don't know these people just ask them if you may republish their work on this platform to enlarge the reach of publicity , tell them that you thin it's important that the people on steemit should know about it . Sometimes people chose not the be published on a platform like these because of the nudity (nsfw) . Same thing with photographers some of them don't want to expose their work on every medium , they like to stay in control of what happens to their content.

but i'm not a writer i take pictures some are better then others it's a hobby , and if i see someone making money from my hobby i want my share .
The same goes for those people that make the videos and did the research they invested in equipment and time , they could use the funds for new research , so make a deal with them for use of the videos and share the profit.

I hear you. I guess I am also trying to balance my moral conundrum with an acceptance / understanding of the times. Copyleft or various arguments about the nature of intellectual property is debatable, but I guess as I read your words, I was trying to think about the days of Napster and Metallica. Now with sites like Mycelium popping up to try and streamline the whole process so that if you put in content that is recognized, you automatically divide the rights and profits. Depending on if it is for charity, education, profit or artist collaboration... Steemit does not do that yet and the idea that I get lured into here to give my content just-as-easily as any other blogging or social media platform like the regular shlub I am, now suddenly I need to treat to content carefully because I stumbled in here and my blitherings are construed as busking for crypto. I COULD blog off of here, but I don't get blockchain, I don't get encryption, ownership of my views (even if they are of others or simple nods, points or quiet adoration). I see your side as a photographer and I believe you are already empowered with many tools to protect your work (plaster your name across everything) but like anything on the internet. once you put it out there. it is gone. Your online presence will be condensed into a tiny file at the end of your life and everyone you know or did will probably be viewable to future generations, this conversation included. Existentially, is your impact /guiding principle here about your credit, crypto control and legacy or letting yourself get frazzled by those dang kids and their disrespect of how things should be, while simultaneously being selective about which beats you dance to and which music is acceptable? Just playing devils advocate because I am stuck in an agreegument.

what the future will bring is what we teach our children , i raised my kid with respect for art and artists , cause with out that respect why would someone even bother to be creative and make something new. And then we would be watching the same tv series over and over again because there is no funding to make something new. Same with the music industry, and journalism and research . Same with local food stores vist the baker and butcher store cause if the supermarkets gets to much power you might end up eating 3d printed food .

Wise Words my friend. So help me out here. IF I have a song I'd like you to hear and If I post it here in the comments. What is your feeling? I need to contact the heirs of Patsy Cline/Kurt Cobain first? You need to make sure no one upvotes it because then you too are culpable by receiving crypto for my music choices? I too was raised to respect the arts and also to pursue them in their own right. Capitalism creates a false scarcity mentality where ownership becomes important because it is not like food and housing are readily available. I can't play you a song to make you happy because I'll be stealing sound waves by releasing them into the air. Can you think of any situations you are conflicted in seeing, doing or receiving? I think a lot of our mentality is shaped by mediums ideologies and beliefs we might not question due to the cognitive dissonance it might cause us. Maybe your lines are all in focus.

that depends on the copyrights on that song , same with movies you are allowed to watch it with friends and family but not to broadcast it when you buy a dvd / cd .