It is no secret that I reward comments and I know that some people are commenting just to get a boost. I am going to be a bit stricter at times though if they do not add value to the conversations. I a also going to try to remember to reward those who engage with others in my comments section to as I think there is a massive amount of value and it helps me out a lot.
Now, I came across this comment:
@harminkona (50) · 4 hours ago
Consent to exhort and tirade . in the prompt area you are accurately indicating that it is essential to discover groups and to participate. Given some here are not local English speakers I may include the word Engage inside your group - on and off the blockchain - a few people can be to a great degree effective by mostly remarking and drawing in with others that infrequently post a considerable measure content as post. I know you realize that @tarazkp
That looked familiar...kinda. An hour earlier:
@uwelang (71) · 5 hours ago
Agree to advise and rant :-) - in the advise section you are correctly hinting at that it is important to find communities and to take part. Given some here are not native English speakers I might add the word Engage within your community - on and off the blockchain - some people can be extremely successful by mainly commenting and engaging with others that rarely post a lot content as post. I know you know that :-).
I have seen many people cutting and pasting already voted comments from the top of the list in the hope for a vote but, this is the first time I have come across someone really rewriting one fully. Perhaps there is an app for this or perhaps it is run through a couple translators and back into English so that it makes sense but, is not the same. Either way... It gets flagged.
Perhaps people don't really read the comments thoroughly, perhaps they think people won't remember what they have read an hour earlier. These are not bad assumptions but, risky. The irony is, it was on a post about having commonsense and working hard to develop your own content and place. Umm, spinning other people's comments is not what I meant.
This person has been on the platform since December and is Rep 50; should they understand that this is unacceptable by now? Well, that depends on whether anyone has flagged them for it I guess but even without it, how can someone actually assume that this is good behaviour in any type of scenario?
It is this kind of behaviour that makes Steemit seem so much worse than it may be in reality and in reality, there are large problems. I know that people struggle and look for any way to make a little money but please, please, please at least make your commentsyours. This is pretty sleazy behaviour in my opinion and I am not going to encourage it.
For those that do comment well and add value to the conversations, thank you very much, it is greatly appreciated. I hope that you put effort in regardless of the potential for rewards but, I do understand the need for some reward. What I hope though is that you will visit much smaller accounts from time to time and engage there too even though no vote might come.
To build strength across the lower sides of the platform takes work to build the connections between. In time, this will prove much more valuable than what it it seems it might now as many of these accounts will grow and those with good content, good network and a strong community will become tomorrows platform leaders and niche market fillers. As onboarding happens, this will provide strength and reward through diversity.
Relying only on the big accounts to grow the platform and provide rewards is very risky, as we can witness currently. This is a community and it requires a community at all levels to work toward an improved future.
Rant number 2 for the day? Not really.
Taraz
[ a Steemit original ]
How about the guys that add in an annoying animated GIF or massive photo to help grab your attention? Love those guys so much...flag it time!
As my contest is gaining more traction I've had to flag a few people for coming in and upvoting themselves to gain some of the Bounty. Make a completely pointless comment and then drop a 100% upvote and 4 other people upvote that didn't even upvote the post...sure that is likely to happen. Auto Flag from me.
my best posts are comments, well I do pride myself in a few posts :D
yeah the imagery is annoying from time to time, I used to disable images and just read, posts are so much different then, just endless words, I think color is a nice addition, but it's also pretty distracting, and yeah general lazynes and people going for quantity rather than quality and contributing something won't do anyone a favor, this platform was fake enough with the voting trails, then automation grew so much bots probably are more than people at this stage ...
It's not about automation being a problem, it's a lot of data to sift through each day/second/week, but come on, drop and run never gets anywhere. I do wish people would just enjoy the good things and go live a happier life rather than stay here spamming, but that's neither here nor there,
one of my favorite spam comments was a "welcome to steem" message I got 8 months in :D at least I hope it's welcome to steem and not steemit because at that stage I was already using busy :P
Flattered my poor comment was used to copy it in a new way of copy / paste - lol. And even more flattered I got tagged in your post. No honestly - you are right - I am sometimes not good as well in comments hence i better do not comment instead of bollocks that is not adding value - as the value add here is what the community will make survive. I adore some of these really great fps that do tons if comments daily longer as my longest posts - and sometimes these really add value. Have great evening.
:)
I have found that from time to time I have to do a cleaning and flag a few as a warning to the rest. Mostly though I try to reward all who try. With Steem prices increasing, it is the least I can do. I do think that in the future however that the people who focus only on comment reward are going to be left out in the cold.
I would love it if more people discussed with each other in the comment sections though. It takes me longer to answer these days than to write a post... :D
You are doing it the right way - i personally flag only people with hate speech and radical political things - i could do more but it is too much already - i hear you on time invest to answer comments - i was guilty often but usually or too often most comments are for the bin - especially most of the ones commenting within 20 seconds after I posted - in early days i tried to educate them and explaining that actually reading and proper engaging might be better long-termed but I felt it did not make sense a lot - i tend to ignore bullshit comments - even I know we all should do this together to help the platform.
btw - watch that newbie - looks interesting :-)! @pleasestop - I like that!!! #fightspam
that does look interesting :)
I am waiting for the bot that can evaluate the entire account and post:
;)
This bot you wait for is already here, called @BernieSanders - he just needs to add the charity aspect :-) - sure he would
You see this a lot in the posts of Surpassinggoogle where he upvotes majority of comments from $1-$2 and sometimes when I read through the comments it is as if majority did not read the post and was merely thanking him for being an inspiration.
A lot also would copy specific parts and just say they agree without any additional input or thought.
My biggest rant are actually those that does it and then upvote themselves by their 100% just to make sure that they are on top.
I usually upvote comments that are really good and comment a reaction to it.
Commenting is a good way to earn. When I was starting out it compromised my 41% of my earnings and I was doing about an average of 20 comments a day and each one was netting about a average of $1. so that helped me grow during December and January when the price of SBD was high.
Some people may think that you overreacted on giving that person a flag but to me it was well deserved because the person in essence did plagiarism and I really hate plagiarism. Majority of the people here doesn't have english as their primary language. Hell, I have it as my 2nd language but I try to make an effort.
If it is a problem of comprehension then it might be because the person is commenting on a dolphin or whale's post without understanding because it is not their interest but because of greed or even desperation they would resort to a copy pasta albeit with some minor word changes.
In one of my post about the dust threshold one commenter said that he had this once. He wrote a good comment where he got a nice upvote and a few days later on another post of the same author, he found his same comment copied by another person and it was of a completely different topic and he laughed and commented under the plagiarist and linked his original comment. He felt it a bad joke.
Steemians need to learn that this behaviour is not tolerated. If I had the SP I would be flagging these as well.
Yes.
...On a more serious note, man accounts do encourage it as it makes them look popular and attracts many more followers. Some just don't care and some perhaps truly love having their virtual balls rubbed by strangers.
That is pretty amazing. Good job mate.
I have been language training (business English in Finland) for over 15 years now and am pretty forgiving generally, but this is 'premeditated'.
Most know but, money...
It is pretty amazing and I netted some pretty amazing followers although they may not upvote me all the time but sometimes I see a vote of their pop up and the huge SP they have is beneficial using the Busy Condenser as I get a hefty upvote from Busy hahaha
I agree to some it is a psychological trigger that shows that they are a big shot.
I like to stick to commenting to people that I either agree their views on certain things or provide a good counterpoint to what I understand and know because I want to keep an open mind on certain things well except Plagiarism and avocadoes, I hate avocadoes haha.
When money comes into the equitation most people would go through the easy route. Not all but majority would because of the scarcity mindset that our society has impressed on our minds.
The phenomenon of rewording comments to plagiarize them using other words has been ongoing for months. I have posted about it in the past, and regularly see it in comment sections.
I do try to point it out, and ask the posters of those comments why they do it. I have never received a reply from any of them. I still dunno if there's an app, or if they use a bot to do so.
I did have a look at a couple users blogs, and they are capable of making comments themselves. I noted the first account I saw do this was also participating in some kind of ESL education regarding synonyms, which is essential to this plagiarism technique.
It's weird, counter-productive to Steemit, and social media in general, and I suspect it's an undertaking seeking to enable automating salient comments without triggering plagiarism tests.
Keep awareness of this high, as I suspect it's increasing in volume, and could produce AI that degrades all social media, and doom Steemit to be no more than a platform for AI rewards mining, at the expense of actual people.
Thanks!
This is one that came up:
https://wordnet.princeton.edu/
I actually thought it might be something like this at first but I don't think so.
too late... :D
I am hoping that the coming AI will be counteracted with another AI and we can witness the destruction of the world because of copy paste.
LOL
That would be a surprising apocalypse. And I though death by unga bunga was unexpected!
hopefully people start thinking so they don't need artificial constructs to do it for them, it's hard emulating people, you would need one crazy AI and that's probably not a good thing :D
I've seen a AI written post, it's quite old I can find the link if you need it :) I think yeah I've seen it over @creatr haha there is a cap on busy as well I can only scroll back 7 months, ... the fact nobody bothered to add some organisation to this messy media doesn't help either, buuut whatever we can do it ourselves and or wait for hiveminds and zergs to spawn ...
hahah that took a while, so you want it :D you want the juicy details, do you want the AI written post :) I can link you that, I can link you to a nice ted talk as well on the topic, had myself confused but I found it :D
https://steemit.com/steemit/@renzoarg/is-it-plagiarism-or-is-it-innovative-a-bot-written-article-by-laura
While we are at it, take a look at the comments on steem from a year ago, maybe it's not the best example :D I write a lot of comments :D
https://steemit.com/story/@creatr/content-creation-is-hard-work
so yeah don't fear AI, it's just a tool, fear stupid people getting their hands on it, we have a lot of shit already, instead of taking responsibility for the actions taken, we are trying to slime our way out of it and getting someone/another to take responsibility and solve the problems ...
usher AI the savior and protector .. :D
I don't know why we keep doing this silly play on ourselves, like the wars keeping peace, because you know fear fear
Hi,
Many hurry to post the first with spam comments just for visibility, they don't even read the post.
On the other hand, as you said, they think you will not remember the comment that you read an hour ago and rewrite it so that receive an upvote too. I always appreciate those who add value to the post and engage in conversation with others. Very well said, cheers!
I have a few people who use ginabot (or similar) when I post and they are usually the first few in. As long as they add value, I don't mind rewarding them.
I am on the platform since August but really active since December, when I started I had no idea where I was going, what I should do, then I dedicated myself to write some post, of course without success, until I decided to read to all those people who seemed to want to teach something else, when you read the publications (mostly interesting) you get with a lot of junk comments, this gives me a little sadness because I feel that those people do not have a good idea of what a social network is and interact with everyone, more and more are the techniques to attract attention and is when we see these types of messages, maybe the platform has a kind of fame, that as long as you have a quick comment, you will get a reward, really do not know if you have to work more with the culture of all of us who are small and that soon we will be leaders in this platform and so, do not distort the quality of this network.
I think that direction is very poor from the start and people must find their own way. Most people in this world are sheep and if they must make decisions themselves, they err on the side of lazy.
little by little they realize what their own goal is
I find myself commenting under a lot of your posts, generally without a whole lot of additional content aside from restating parts of the piece and saying I agree with them or am interested by them. Does that make me a part of the problem? I'm not nessecarily doing it for upvotes, I find that if i restate something and write it myself I can remember things better, which then helps me apply it to my life. I guess in a way, it doesn't further discussion, but at least I'm not cloning other comments.
Sometimes I do have things to add to the discussion, and at that point I do so, but I don't always have something to add. Does that mean I should stop commenting in those cases? I like to tell people when I like their work, because as a writer myself I like it when others do the same for me.
It depends on each person and generally I know who is doing it for votes and who is not. Familiar faces come in and talk someties, sometimes, quote and agree, someties just say, thanks or cool. With a relationship I can upvote all of them as I know where they are coming from. An unfamiliar face that comes in and says 'cool' likely didn't read it at all.
I feel sorry for others, @tarazkp. Just as you could see that plagiarism, how many more it will not have committed without having been judged first, it seems crazy to me that a person does not even take the time to read to be able to comment on how far the advantage, the caradurism, can go. I speak Spanish, but I may be interested in your texts, especially because I feel that you have a simple language and without any difficulty to understand it, and the appropriate extension for this type of text´Entonces why not read? is lack of time? of neurons?are unable to spin a comment worthy of a vote? Or is it simply safe to go: I use a winning comment and it has already been voted on? Really, that's too bad. good afternoon.
I am forgiving on language, even in people's posts. I am an idiot who only speaks English so I am in awe of people who can manage to write in foreign languages.
I think that people are just lazy and hopeful that a return will come with minimal investment.
First I was going to say I disgree with flagging comments you don't like, but then I read the whole thing and yes, plagiarism should be penalized. Am sometimes guilty myself of not thoroughly reading through posts, especially if I have little interest just to get a reward - don't judge me, am trying to be sincere.
Ultimately You're probably right and we should value engagement more than rewards but don't forget that steemit is also a source of revenue, it is easier said than done.
I hope I don't get flagged for this 😂
that's copy-writing :D it's creative :P
If it was more Tolstoy and less what it was, I might have upvoted it and flagged @uwelang's comment for not trying harder :P
pfff comments here exploded, this is all your fault, now I gotta read :| yeah he should :D but at least he's practicing :P
yeah you must be famous :D and damn I missed on the curation rewards :D well that's enough out of me, didn't mean to comment on commenting so much
ok finally read everything, I gotta say I came here for the nice image at first, I'm happy there are conversations happening on here still :) sadly it's more over at trending posts, people don't put in much effort and suck up to rewards, I suppose it's having no values or not enough principles dunno, could be any reason.
So yeah glad you got a whole band together here to comment
Flagged!
No, I understand it completely and when there is money on offer, the temptation is strong to cut a few corners but, this will never work if looking long-term.
well there are different concepts of long-term, people are making money, now, so it's not fair :D from a self-centered perspective, this game is rigged and in never appreciated "me" which is not true, it's by far better than real life where if you make a misstep or fail you get judged and cut,
here at least you can write peacefully, the platform is populated mostly by good people, so you get support as well, there are conversations everywhere if you know where to look :) so it's a vibrant beautiful place to hang out :) I don't know why people want the steem so bad, if it wasn't a rigged game and votes were fair I'd be fine with just curating :D for good or bad I had to learn to write as well :)
anyways, see you later @tarazkp, help those poor souls get some value in them and appreciate the opportunity for growth and learning they have, rather than chasing empty numbers and getting flags for it ...
Steemit will be great once the payouts stop... that's in about 8 years or something like that.
I don't think people realise that they are going to stop one day, nor do they think about the spread of competition through onboarding.
what do you mean stop, it's engineered to keep inflating, you can always fork the code too ... It's a nice weekly grind till the end of time, or the computer time at least :D
Steem is limited and if I remember correctly, printing will stop in 2035 or around there. The pool is currently getting larger but will start decreasing after a few years. As more people are onboarded, it is going to get very scarce:
https://steemit.com/steem-inflation/@fyrstikken/what-is-the-inflation-rate-of-steem-here-is-the-supply-table-for-the-next-20-years
steem might be limited, but I suppose you can always print dollars, I think there was a limit on that as well, since they are steem backed dollars :)
well it's more complicated, yeah maybe in 30 years things won't be the same, I don't see a way the printing will stop tho, that's the reason people are here,
create content, get paid, something like that ...
interesting that the limit came up, I wonder what's the point of the SMT's then :P create a derivatives market, :| well a story for another year :D probably with the rate they release products it's gonna be a while, probably a few months before open testing begins
I 'think' the SMTs will mean that steem can be used to back them regardless of whether more gets printed. The SMTs can grow in value and push the value of Steem up as they do so. I don't know... :D
yeah if good communities spring up, I'm still wondering if it will be just echo chambers or if there will be more cross-pollination, so yeah that is one thing you can always do if steem gets topped, you can just buy some and create derivative tokens for some use case, it's a soft fork of a sort, hence why stinc is really trying to capitalise on that opportunity, less potential forks, more money gets escrowed, steem value increases, their "investment" pays off, dunno everybody wins :|
I'm still thinking about the possible benefits, sounds nice, but it's not a full smart contract, it's just having the options you have on steem, but handed out to you, rather than having to spend months to develop a platform and having it still tied to steem and it's development and politics ...
Wait, what? The payments are going to stop? Yeah, didn't know that. Ha ha. I thought that the increase would incrementally lower until it reached a low inflation level. Where could I get more info on this?
Here is a table at least to et you started :)
https://steemit.com/steem-inflation/@fyrstikken/what-is-the-inflation-rate-of-steem-here-is-the-supply-table-for-the-next-20-years
We all know that comment can bring some money, but it is inconceivable that there are people who cut comments from other parts and place them as if they were yours. That is simply plagiarism. Personally I always comment because that is one of the recommendations of steemit, but I always do it at my own discretion and according to what I think of the topic that is being addressed. I think your recommendations are excellent for this aspect of steemit to improve and move forward with better content and better comments.
There are so many ways people try to scam but I wonder if they just spent some time working if in the longrun, they would be better off.
You know, I probably should not laugh but I do find this to be comically pathetic. So much work to scam, imagine if those same people would put all that work into thinking for themselves... now that would be the day.
A long time ago, in the name of science I did some research in the darkweb to know exactly how the scammers steal Credit Cards and what not, being someone who had his CC stolen I learned quite a lot and my curiosity needed to be satisfied.
I was blown away by the amount of work it required, basically the amount of work that person had to do to steal my CC number and use it in a gamestop for 200 bucks was more than a full time job....
btw Tarazkp we are doing a little audio chat tonight around 6pm on helpie, if you are around and got the time.
I find it that way too. People seem to go to a lot of effort to cut corners. The funny thing is that if they had added a simple, related comment, they would have made at least 0.11 SBD.
I guess it is a volume game for the CC scams or, they are based in countries where 200 dollars is a lot.
It is really hard for me to join voice chats at night as we have a small apartment and essentially, by the time I have a chance to get to work here, everyone is asleep.
well in the off chance that you can, we will be on there in about 2 hours or so from the time of this comment... if you can't thats obviously ok, but it would be ninja
humm yeah that's interesting, plus after you spend some money from the card you can get frozen, refunded, I suppose it's a lot of sneaky business to not raise any suspicion and at best it's gonna be a month before the person realises or well when everything is drained, yup you are correct on that.
Okay i must tell you that the experience you highlighted there was very sleazy, but do you know what's more sleazy, someone copying my exact comment, and upvoting it so it goes above mine and seems like i copied, oh oh, i was very upset. I didnt flag though i warned
Like i said, anyone who does not like to read cannot stay on steemit, and the importance of reading to reply instead of reading to understand cannot be over emphasised
Sometimes i wonder what keeps these spammers spamming, but then i realise some people actually encourage it by upvoting them because they are more concerned with other things. This as well is bad for the community
Essentially
You are too nice. Don't think anyone will steal my comments though. I am more concerned about grammar and spelling replying To Taraz as I know he is picking up all the mistakes as he reads them. I can see how some don't get picked up straight away as Taraz must spend hours each day replying. Not many people would do that. Replying to everyone must take as long as writing the post and in some cases longer.
I flag them if I recognise them.
It is a numbers game where they know that some number of their nonsense will attract a lazy or tired eye. There are some large accounts who don't care so upvote all to get more numbers in. pathetic.
I wonder though, if i was only a large investor, and i had no idea about these practices, maybe the numbers game is a misconception for me and i dont know the implications of it or any other of my action here have i done wrong?
Yes
I feel it is every investors(large or small) responsibility to ensure they acquire proper knowledge of the platform they are investing in, as the success of their investment immensely depends on the success of the platform. So as not to damage the whole place because of ignorance.
It is the responsibility of us all to consider what we are getting paid for, and how it happens.
That comment looks exactly like something a bot would write. No fancy stuff in there, just a simple word substitution (probably using the WordNet ):
agree --> consent
advise --> exhort
rant --> tirade
This one shows some creativity, it tags you at the end :-)
Lol arnt you funny :D
I like to think so, yes.
lol, wordnet is from Princeton. "Here you go guys, a way to cheat on assignments."
When you pay ~50k a year, you should get something in return :-D
I once did a Harvard MBA ... for someone else.
All you have to do now is to pay the tuition and you can frame your own Harvard MBA diploma on the wall :-)
(Sorry for not upvoting, VP 58% and the vote under the dust threshold)
Thats bad, people should not put scam comments , they ve got no self esteem, there is no dignity for people in that kind of act.
yup lots of people have no self respect or esteem, so they are fine with doing anything for anyone, any day ...
as long as it pays and even if it doesn't, it's worth trying. So you get phishers and scammers. I don't understand it, I get that there are a ton of reasons to hate on life, but still :D keep it to yourself, don't wreck other people's life ...
I think, but I'm stupid and I don't take advantages of good opportunities :D ie being fine with the world, the world is amazing, people are all kinds of "I'm not ok with", which also makes me a hypocrite, people are a part of the world :D
I love your humility and the fact of loving Steemit, first because you read the comments you do not vote to vote, but to look for the essence of what is written ...
and secondly, to want the platform to keep moving, so that those of us who are starting may also have hope.
Flattery will get you everywhere :P
I am selfish, I want a future here and that means the community needs to be strong enough to deal with the good and bad. It takes work and it isn't always fun.
So it must be, the good thing of life, work and suffer to then enjoy the evolution.
I’ve seen a few of my mine in the past stolen. They use to be stupid and do a “…” in-between each thing they copy/pasted. Which at least made them stand out like a sore thumb. If this is there next evolution I can see them pulling in some decent rewards. I’ve seen comment thief’s get rewards in past and it took other people to point out to the person who reward them that they in fact stole that comment.
Between this, spam, and all phishing going around. I guess it’s just showing of the platforms success. The higher the price goes the more of this we will have to put up since they don’t tend to just ban the accounts.
well even bans here don't work, hopefully they don't learn to abuse the system better, so yeha having lots of accounts but half of them being fake and or unused is a shame, it's really looking like the decent people joined in once and then there was just a drain, sure you get some great new arrivals, but after the flood gates releasing /.. it's been more spam than good :D
Sadly they are getting better at hiding the fact they put in no effort by using other peoples works. I’m rather concerned with how much content these people will attempt to steal and post on other sites as well as here. A month or two ago I was just messing round and downloaded all my comments/blogs with very little effort using an some public database I found. Can’t quite recall how or where I did it but it was easy.
It only takes one or two bad actors and they can just flood account creation faucet and acquire 1000’s of accounts at no cost to themselves.
It’s just a shame they don’t put in real effort. They could be making so much more unless they are abusing things to such a degree that they only need a 1% success rate. I just wish the users had some better tools at dealing with this nonsense. While quite a many people are trying and using some great automation to do so. It is only putting a dent in the title wave. Even more so when they figure out that they won’t get banned/shadow banned here. At worst they just lose rep till they are grayed out even then it only takes one lucky hit to get enough rep to be seen again. Not to mention if they can get the right account they have a scary opportunity to scam quite a number of people.
Not really sure what can be done about this that is not already being done. Just sad to see people take advantage of such a wonderful legit opportunity thisplatform has for its users.
It does happen from time to time especially when people self vote and mess up the order. I am sure I have been fooled often enough too.
I am pretty sure this will happen and it will happen at more and more subtle levels so it will be more difficult to spot.
Having a reputation score of 50 doesn't mean that much since we all know that it can be easily bought with bid bots. I agree with you though with the fact that this kind of behavior makes the platform worse than it may be.
I wonder when this kind of users will get bored of Steemit and quit this kind of practice. Or try to create something genuine. As low quality as it could be. At least they should try that.
I had a quick scroll and suspect that at least some of their content is stolen. I will have a better look later.
It is a matter of knowing that I have my own unique spice to add to the platform despite my anticipation of rewards. If I copy and past a top comment, then I have shot myself out off the impact I can make on the community. Then this way I can’t be rewarded.
I have to put in something.
If you want a voice, you have to use your own.
Exactly!
I think I have actually seen a tool for such rewrites somewhere. Maybe it was developed for rewriting theses and pass them off as your own.
Many comments on Steemit suck enough already as it is, adding such a tool into the equation ...
Oh well.
Yes, I have heard but never searched but someoen mentioned this one:
https://wordnet.princeton.edu/
Hehe. Still can't believe someone is that stupid and lazy. It takes all sorts on here. I honestly don't know what else to say. That just deserves to be flagged. Hate to read one of 'their' articles.
I been calling out commemt spammers. I am nice to newbies about it as they may not realize that what flies on facebook and twitter doesn't work here. But if they have been around a while. I call them out and if they keep doing it I sometimes issue that flag. I hate flagging people but those who rape the reward pool or try too needs to be flagged.
And for those who might be reading this I know @tarazkp know this. But don't focus or depend on whale votes. Focus on building your own micro community that is how one becomes a whales.
I hope the little Steemians here understand the value and importance of discord groups for growing their account. Creating a name for yourself and growing your brand is like you said best done by networking. Almost every big community here on Steemit offers the chance to chat with them on discord. Just find the ones you're passionate about or that trigger your curiosity. I found 2 awesome communities I'm very active in, and that very much helped my account grow more raipdly. Its a win in every possible way, and that's a great thing.
I think with communities, these will become even more important to be a part of.
I think I qualify as a "little steemian" :) but I'm not on discord. Are there any groups you can point me to? I did a little searching but I'm not sure how to find a discord group that fits me.
I'm an active member of Alldutch (a Dutch community) and Thewritersblock (for aspiring writers). Both communities are right for me, bjt you have to find to ones that suit you of course :)
I'm checking out Thewritersblock, it seems like it would be good for me as a writer
For sure! It's a very supportive community with some extremely talented writers who are always keen to provide feedback where needed.
well said, I just heard of them for the first time, proof I don't hang out in those circles I guess and I'm not that keen on writing or whatever, I should check that writer place, I've heard of it once or twice or it sounds familiar dunno :D
It's super helpful, and the people over there are wonderful. I would totally recommend it!
try them out, there are probably hundreds of groups and tens of communities and project chats, so it's a big, wide world :D fit where you'd like to be, well here you are :) thank me later
https://busy.org/@inquiringtimes/steem-web-resources-tools-apps-communities-ect
check out busy.org, steemit is just a site as well :D
Thank you :) I actually already use busy.org, I like it a lot better than the steemit interface, the notifications are a major plus.
Jesus there's some thirsty people out there I guess lol.
Maybe they are expecting water to wine.
I got this comment the other day. I’m still confused.
Sure, maybe English isn’t their first language but still, maybe temper the comment according to your language skills. I would much rather the user asked a simple question about the post rather than try to sound like an expert on a topic they know nothing about.
Haha... I'm confused!
lol, wtf is that...
I try to add insightful insights to comments I am drawn to. What I have difficulty in is being a 'generator'of content that others might like.
adapt or don't when it comes to creation. If you are looking for monetary return, market forces are in play.
I guess the whales should be a bit more strict in rewarding comments since most of the people either "copy-paste" or they write traditional comments like " I like your post" or "awesome" and "good" etc.
I don't reward those sorts of comments at all. It is a waste of my time to read it and bandwidth...
When you say traditional comments, with those examples, do you mean that as the substance, or verbatim? I constantly leave comments under posts explaining why I like them, or what makes them interesting to me. Are those "traditional comments" and a waste of comment or are you soley refering to short commentd like the ones you listed?
@Youngjae. I have seen many people adding comments like "I like it or I love it" and those too at many places by the same person. Yesterday I was reading a post from a Steemians and the lady was remembering her late (dead) brother and the people below commenting "congratulations" even without reading what the post is all about. It was such a bad feeling to see how people react to the posts.
As I said in my last comment, I am here as I find the pieces you right interesting and stimulating and I'm the most clued up of the lot, but will put more effort in when I get more time. I hope that some of my comments are useful sometimes, but I"ll be damned if I'll whore my soul for a cent or two. It's great being rewarded, but I really do want to communicate, make a friend or two three and have some fun.
Even in the difficulties of the platform, ther is a lot of fun to be had :)
I've been seeing more of that across the platform. I can't remember where I saw it first, but it's frustrating. I don't have the same number of commenters you have, so I tend to recognize most of the people. It's got to be tough to always be questioning if the person is real or if it's just a bot trying to scam you for a little handout.
It's sort of scary that scammers have reps into the 50s now. I was happy that I had reached 55 because then people would know I was legit. Nope. There are plenty of people with similar reps who have used bots or a voting network to boost their reps. The comments can look legit, but if you look into them more (like in your case) you find it's stolen from somewhere. It's just sad.
excellent
what I hate is when it doesn't make any sense and I find myself re-reading it over and over thinking it will get better lol... if I see posts or comments like that I tend to over look them. like you said it cant just be junk to try and get something... and as for the rep part, ive only been on this site for 2 weeks or so and have built a rep faster then I even understand. so only with the added age to his blog would that make sense for him to know better. or it could be that he hasn't been on here the whole time... I try not to assume and give people the benefit that we all make mistakes....
welcome,
about steem and some of the people here
some choose to make mistakes and choose to not change and learn, so they are a net drain in this case, spammers, abusers and whatnot, loose standards that get blown by the wind left and right...
anyways I'm happy there is one more person that can read :P that's a blessing :P
cheers :) have fun steeming, get discord or go on steem.chat for more people, if you have questions feel free to ask I can link you some old posts you might find interesting, there are lots of apps too by now, it's a lot to learn and take in so, have fun :D
Oh yes so much to learn lol kinda over whelmed at times.. but im learning and thats what matters right.. i have discord and chat with a few in this owners blog group thank u for the help offer 🌺