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RE: If you don't like flagging comment spam, do this instead!

in #steemit7 years ago

IF they upvote you when there is value to their vote, then sure I see that as better as well, because they can only do it a few times a day. But if they upvote you with no value to the post, I don't think that cuts it.

I have a lot of experience with spammers by being both an employer and a freelancer on Upwork. I know how these people work and I've watched Upwork have to make change after change to their system, otherwise the spammers would have destroyed them. This is very serious stuff, and I know a lot of people don't get that these people are actually thieves, because they don't have the experience of seeing them in action and what they can do to destroy.

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I do understand your point of view. and I agree that the problem exists.
my concern is with the fact that , people will be (are being) criticized for being simply polite. a smile as they peruse the post's so to speak .
I feel that I am now being discouraged from posting a simple compliment,I have to critique every post that I read ,or stay silent and mute! for fear of being flagged,muted,or judged as a spammer..
.Like I said I do understand! but it is kinda like taking the guns from law abiding citizens for that act of a few criminal,or taking my car because some one drove drunk...
How is that helpful? it does not stop the criminal or drunk.more police more laws more problem..I do not know how to stop evil or crime,but it does not help to hurt the simple honest every day common person
I think the circle jerking whales, and the $3000 post hurt the platform and everybody more.
I think we need to stop the bigger issues first before we start criticizing the small time scammers,that are making a dollar and excluding everyone from being able to say a simple "good job"or "great post"
This is a very complex site! very few user understand it completely,some of us hardly understand it at all(me ..lol) barely functioning here... I am one of the people that is honest enough to know that 80% of us are never going to make the big leagues, never going to Mr. Popular. ...lol... this is not a sign up guaranty to get you rich site. people are going to try and game any system... human nature. so big fish or little fish, I understand not wanting to get whale slapped!
namaste!

I think of it this way...the person who wrote the post took time to communicate with you, shouldn't we be willing to put at least one minute of time back to engage with their communication?

And to my point, especially if you feel you can't leave a quick comment anymore (which of course you should be able to do here and there) the spammers are already changing the way we have to operate, proving what a problem they are.

Not rewarding comment spammers does help and will help stop them, flagging them will also help. These actions will solve the spam issue by taking away their motive, which is the money.

I don't like the "circle jerk" so much myself, but I do see they have to motivate people to want to buy or retain STEEM. You're only going to buy $100K of STEEM (or $1K or whatever) if you know you're going to get your money back. The circle jerk makes people want to own STEEM, so while it can seem annoying, it serves a purpose, which is to make a market for the coin - a reason to own it.

I will rest on the "good post" part... I do not think we are that far off.
as for the circle jerk part,and buying steem, as anything you want value and not be like buying a new car and loosing 10% value as soon as you drive it off the lot,..lol..but cryptos are like stock,someone needs to loose for you to win,I do not buy that! I believe in sweat equity,you can produce your own value! that is what powers this platform , not the whales who had the privilege or opportunity to get in on the ground floor, they have made a killing!
when 90% wake up to the facts,the whales that are circle jerking are ripping them off worse than the "good job" spammers I bet it changes fast!
please do not get me wrong there are a lot of those whales from ground floor that do want the platform to succeed! and are putting a lot back into the platform to promote the minnows! I commend those people!
"Greed" is not "good", a maximum wage will cure inequity faster than minimum wage ever will or can.
feel free to write a post on that . I will gladly engage in the comments.
:-)
I hope you have a great day @trevorlyman.
please don not think I am being hostile or trying to fight. I hope my sense of humor come through.
Namaste!

I don't think you're being hostile but yeah we can wrap it up. Someone does not have to lose in order for you to win in stocks or crypto's. It certainly happens but it's not required. As for sweat equity, how do you think the person who invested their $100K got that money? It just came out of thin air? Someone had to work for it. And the actual value of the coin does not come from sweat equity, it comes from people putting money into the coin. Without people willing to buy the coin it would have zero valuer and there would be no possibility for sweat equity. Greed is good and a maximum wage won't help us in any way. We definitely see these things very differently! haha Oh well. Have a good day as well. Bye.