I really hope you don't rage quit. We'd all lose out if you did. I'm really sorry to hear about other conversations that have gone on which were not respectful. For my part, I've really enjoyed the dialog here. Full disclosure, that's my wife's post. Prior to you highlighting it here, it had very little $ attention (even after getting linked to by @anyx's front page trending post). She posted it (and I also got involved) not out of envy, jealousy, or some such thing, but out of a deep desire for justice, fairness, and ethics in the world. There was something going on that not only didn't feel right, it also seemed to go against our current understanding of the law. That, to me, puts the reputation of this site (steemit.com, we won't even get into the blockchain implications of all this) at risk. That puts us all at risk. We've seen takedowns of entire websites because of copyright infringement and those sites may have had no direct financial incentives to those sharing other people's work (like we have here on Steemit). This early on in this experiment, it's important to lay down the foundations which will last a long time. If a respected, influential member of the community like yourself is rewarded for a practice which might increase the existential risk for the entire platform, is that something we should all be concerned about? Others would naturally follow the same practices, maybe not taking as much care as you did to site your sources. It's possible those individuals alone would be at risk, but again, I've seen too many examples where the entire site goes away.
As for those who are jealous, insecure, and petty: ignore them. Their tragic expressions of unmet needs deserve sympathy and maybe a little pity, but nothing more. There are far more people here who want everyone to succeed.
If you feel the need to take down your previous posts to protect yourself, that's an understandable decision. If you do so, I hope it's for your own reasons, not because someone forced you in any way. That, to me, is the beauty of this entire model: no force is needed. Community standards are changing and evolving via conversation. That's a beautiful thing.
the STEEM Gestapo, and the STEEM revenue police
That's a funny joke/hyperbole, but it's not really accurate. Again, there's no coercion here. We can act as adults and make our own decisions.
My wife and I were really happy about your last post and how you used public domain images. That, to me, was a great sign of positive change! Curating great content should be rewarded. Just copying a page (from a news site or elsewhere) where someone else did the curation seems less valuable to me (but that's just my opinion).
In closing, I want to apologize if anything I've personally said came across in a rude or insensitive manner. I truly hope you change your mind about modifying all your old content or, if you must, own the decision as your own and not one that was forced upon you.
I hope this will pass, and we can all enjoy great photos from you in the future.
Thank you lukestokes for sharing you concerns here I totally understand and respect them, I enjoyed as well discussing this matter with you and corinnestokes before this thread was posted, it was really instructive, and that post has an interesting legal insight posted by sean-king. I think everyone reading this should go ahead and read it here
Regarding your concern and others’ about the whole site being taken down, I don’t think it’s possible given all legal precautions are taken, like stated in sean-king post. Sites being taken down over copyright issues are typically torrent sites that do not respond to DMCA takedowns and share large content mainly in the music, film and software industry, there is no comparison to be made with social media sites, if so, Facebook, Twitter and all other social platform would be long gone by now.
It’s always a pleasure discussing with intelligent and respectful people like you, I did not take any offence from you or corinnestokes.
Thanks again for your great way of discussing this in a mature and responsible way.
Thank you. :) This comment made my morning, along with my wife. Mature, responsible discussions are what separate Steemit out from the rest of the Internet. I hope you stay for those, if nothing else.
Fist time I hear a whiny rage quit post being qualified of "mature, responsible discussion". What part of it was mature and responsible exactly? The part where @masteryoda slings mud indiscriminately at the #steemitabuse team of volunteers curators because we dared challenging his notion of fair use? The part where he throws baseless accusations against @ned that he still hasn't backed? Or the part where he implies there is a conspiracy against him because he got a single downvote on his last post?
Let's get real people. Payout time is over, you can put down the violins.
Wow, just Wow, your rudeness and hate has no limits. Here's a small sample snippet of some chat that took place in your police channel proving there was conspiracy against me and vote dictating:
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i’ve also reached out to those with large accounts who are voting for him
It seems you did not like being exposed for who you really are.
@recursive: please view the conversation we are referring to here. In my opinion, it was mature and responsible. I've withheld my negative opinions about the rage quit here beyond what I've already expressed. I was not present in the Slack channel when the drama went down. My opinion of masteryoda has been influenced greatly by his actions on this thread (and in general), but I tried to keep my personal opinions separate from the more generic ideas being discussed here and how it impacts the future of Steemit.
Echoing this as it has always been my position on this topic.
Do you really think caps or bold are required here? It's just an opinion among many.
What should or should not be rewarded is open to perspective and @masteryoda has been here much longer than most everyone on the system, given its current exponential rise in new users. That, to me, deserves some respect. They were here before there was a photography channel. For us to come tell someone "You're doing it wrong!" when they defined what "it" is from the beginning could be seen as presumptuous. I hope, for my part, I've not done this but instead participated in some important discussions. To the extent I've judged others (instead of talking about ideas and existential risks for this platform), I apologize.
Obviously it is not required, but emphasis was desired and therefore I chose to highlight the quotation using the ## tag.
Are you arguing with yourself here? Because I simply quoted you directly and agreed with it.
I appreciate your feedback and I've made an edit to the comment which I think highlights the quotation but avoids the unnecessary bolding.
@jamtaylor Perfect! Thank you. I didn't intend to tone police you or anything, but since it was my content, I also didn't want it misrepresented. :)
No, I'm just disagreeing with the use of ##. In online forums, that can come across as yelling and there's quite a bit of emotion in this thread already. What I stated was my personal opinion, and I do appreciate that you agree with it. Having it highlighted so much with a headline setting makes me feel uneasy. If everyone did that, for example, this place would look like a ransom note and become unpleasant (IMO). I'm not arguing with myself, just trying to appreciate all sides of the discussion.
These early adopters aren't perfect. If they are doing something wrong or illegal or even just rubs someone the wrong way, there is no need to censor yourself and not let your opinions be known. It may affect how you are viewed later by those that don't like to be criticized, but we are all long time internet users and should be able to take reasonable criticism, and return comments back without getting our feelings hurt. All it takes is to come from a place of honesty and understanding. There is no need to hate anyone or think someone hates you just because they don't agree 100%.
Perhaps it's a sign of the times as evidenced by how much the conservatives and liberals are so divided, in the case of the United States. Unless someone agrees with everything you say, they are the enemy it seems. That kind of thing should be squashed from the start here on Steemit.com. Everyone, even your enemy, should be able to voice their opinion and all of us should stand behind those who have the unpopular opinion as to their right to say it.
Without being able to question the "superiors" this Steemit experiment is going to fail. Just because someone started something, doesn't mean they infallible now or when they started.