Training for weapons is for defensive purposes. It's part of the curriculum for self-defense. As for striking, punches and kicks are part of jiu jitsu. You cannot enter the clinch in jiu jitsu without understanding striking and distance. That doesn't make it mma at all. If you don't consider the striking element, setting up the takedown is very difficult, specially against another trained individual.
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I agree. But there is a difference between 'we are going to throw some type of punch before we clinch' and 'training' to make your striking skillful. to me I don't know of a jiu jitsu class anywhere that would improve a Boxer's striking after he started training there. its a difference I guess between training "with" something and training "to do" something.
It may not be a striking art, but striking is still a huge part of jiu jitsu. Look at combat jiu jitsu in sport, mma, and self-defense. If you don't understand striking, you'll have trouble with the clinch, takedown, opening up submissions, or being swept and losing position. The only place in jiu jitsu striking doesn't apply to is sport jiu jitsu besides cjj. Of course it's not a striking art but you still train it to improve, and cross train.
of course, cross training
BJJ is a sport so saying an argument 'only applies' in sport bjj is kind of odd. that would be like if I said well there are people who use boxing for self defense so saying boxers have no takedown defense is only really true of boxers in 'sport boxing'
mma schools often have training broken down into the individual aspects like striking, wrestling, grappling etc. are there jiu jitsu schools where you can go in and train in purely striking for the class? perhaps there are but I am unaware of them. also are there jiu jitsu people going into striking tournaments with only the striking they learned in a jiu jitsu class?
is there a jiu jitsu tournament anywhere that has striking in it or would that not always be called an mma match?
BJJ first and foremost is self-defense. Yes there is the sport element. And yes there is combate jiu jitsu which allows striking in the sport, and it's not mma. Boxing may not allow takedowns, but there is some clinch work and some basic limited grappling. Muay Thai is very much grappling based in the clinch. Jeet Kune Do has plenty of grappling despite being a striking art. Okinawan Karate is argued that it's origins are actually grappling and not striking.
Wrestling is the only grappling that I know of where striking is not a factor, and even then, I've been hit pretty hard by a wrestler where it may as well been a closed fist.