Definitely a good discussion. All the BJJ guys I train with train takedowns and Judo as well (once a month) and if we are talking MMA, (striker vs grappler) then you are right you definitely need a takedown game or you are going to get tagged up.
Plus often you turn a black belt into a brown belt by punching him hard in the face. Since and repeat.
Pure sport jiujitsu with no stand-up/takedown game seems like such a travesty!
it is! it's similar to a Judo school that is so focused on throws that their pins and submissions remain weak throughout their training. it's actually sad to me to see that! our school had a wrestling program start but not enough people got interested so Professor stopped it
made me sad cus we had a very skilled wrestler teaching it