If we had the power to create a species that was like us but only much smarter and creative, would we be considered gods? I ask because we are in the process of doing the same, actually.
It’s not a new species per say, but yes, we are creating something that is intelligent, could potentially think on its own and make decisions independently of us and also, is creative and increasingly getting better at it.
I am talking about artificial intelligence, one of my favorite topics to talk about. AI is nothing new and you probably know all about it since it is slowly but surely making its way into our lives in our phones, in our cars, in our computers, and a lot more places and ways.
I, as well as most people, always thought that even if AI gets really advanced one day (to the point it is smarter than us), it will never be able to possess something that we always thought was unique to us humans, and that is creativity. It seems we might have been wrong about that too.
Recent Examples of AI Creativity
In the past year or so, there have been so many examples of what AI is truly capable of that it has been simply unbelievable but what has been really most impressive is its ability to create art, music and even writings.
In fact, just about a year ago, the world got to witness an entire album composed by an AI called Aiva which you can listen for yourself on Soundtrack. Aiva is so good that its music is being used as soundtracks in movies, in advertisements and even video games and is the first AI ever to officially gain the status of a composer.
Another example comes in the form of paintings made by an AI system after observing and learning from thousands of paintings made by humans. Now, the system has become so good at making paintings that humans can’t distinguish if they were made by an AI or a real human. In some cases, they preferred the paintings made by the AI!
If that wasn’t enough, AI has now learnt to write novels too. Just a few months ago, I read about this AI system called Shelley (created by researchers at MIT), that was writing horror stories for Halloween. You got to check her (its?) work out. It’s good! Also, a Japanese AI system almost won a literary award after writing a short novel, aptly titled, “The Day A Computer Writes A Novel”.
How Do You Feel About This?
The recent discussions about AI taking over human jobs has revolved around more traditional, labour-intensive and white collar jobs that uses decision making and problem solving. But now, it seems like even the jobs of creative people is not safe anymore. That’s weird to think about, at the least.
As I was listening to Aiva’s music, I was really impressed and kind of in disbelief how an AI can produce such heartfelt music. When I saw the paintings made by the AI system, I was really impressed and couldn’t ever imagine it being made by a program.
And when I read the short horror stories by Shelley and the excerpts from the novel written by the Japanese AI, I was left really impressed how these systems have an understanding of language and how it can be used to give rise to several emotions in a human!
We are surely moving into a new world, people. Be prepared. We are slowly creating a second intelligent species on the planet and I am not sure what to think about it, honestly speaking. Well, I guess, time will tell. How do you feel about all of this?
i think calling the AI output "creative" is probably the wrong term for it. we as humans can call it creativity because it's OUR form of output, based on emotions and experiences (the human version of data aggregation) whereas the AI is simply compiling all "creative" data and finding a way to make it. the AI is more cook rather than chef, more transcriber than writer, more "color in the lines" than artist, if my distinctions make sense?
Just to be devil's advocate...
You are saying that an 'artist/AI' who studies under a teacher/programmer, learns techniques from other works of art and further develops their methods, who is inspired by the things that he/it is exposed to is not the same because the the inspiration is found in different ways? Because their experiences that result in the output are different?
Do you expect that all humans find art inspiration in the same way like maybe a deaf person (eg Beethoven or Ignaz Holzbauer) learning to compose is not as legitimate as hearing person and a blind visual arts artist (eg. Pranav Lal or Michael A. Williams) can never be considered an artist because he can't see?
A good part of art is in how it affects the people who gain experience or understanding through the art of the artist. Can a computer create something unique that can touch someone's emotions and inspire new thoughts? Does it matter that the artist doesn't see or hear the art in the same way as the observer/listener?
...just arguing to continue the debate 😊
with my limited knowledge of AI, yes, i would say that there is a lack of compulsion on its part that is more often found in the human artist. most artists have an inner fire that essentially forces them to create (a workaholic might be the far end of the same spectrum for non-creatives). if it comes out that AI does, in fact, create something based on an emotional compulsion, then obviously i'll have to retract this, but i do feel that the creation for both humans and for AI come from different places.
to answer your second paragraph: no. i think art is subjective. you like what you like regardless of whatever. maybe you like it because it's expensive or because its colors speak to you or because the words used touched you in a certain way. but a deaf person composing music is still a person with an emotional history upon which their creations are built. so, too, are the blind visual arts artists. physical handicaps aren't the issue; it's the inherent EMOTIONAL handicap found in the AI that i think removes the "creativity" from whatever it creates. again, i could give someone a recipe and they may create a perfect meal; that doesn't make them a chef. a chef brings a certain other essence to the meal that me, the average joe, could not.
i don't disagree with any of paragraph three, but i would say that a computer can certainly create something unique that speaks to someone AND inspires. of that there's no question. qualitatively, however, it would seem more like coloring in the lines to me for AI to create it unless there could be some obvious way to measure the AI's emotional level (were it to actually have one). there's plenty of really bad art that comes from emotion too, but at least it's coming from a place of truth and experience. i don't know that AI would have that same starting point, which i think lessens the quality (for me, at least) of the output.
It seems to me then that you might agree that 'AI art' is to 'human art' as 'crafts' are to 'art'. Crafts may be nice but they can't be considered real 'art' because they are too derivative and/or capable of mass production? The crafts don't require a dedication of emotion plus long-term (lifetime learning) effort?
On a side note - can 'art' that is produced by a computer be attributed to the programmer/program engineer? Is he/she the true artist?
You bring up an insanely good point!! I think that is the only differing factor between us and AI in terms of creativity. Ours come from a place of emotions and theirs from data. Maybe a computer scientist would argue that emotions is just another form of data for us humans, but that can be argued against too. But yeah, great point man, I hadn't even thought about it that way! And yeah, your distinctions make perfect sense!
i think, also, that there is a certain level of "drive" behind the motives of the human artist as opposed to the AI creating something. the AI is not compelled by some inner emotional turmoil to put paintbrush to canvas, nor would it willingly spend several hours sitting in one place out in nature waiting to take the perfect photograph at just the right time.
and sure, you could program the AI to figure out the right time to take the "perfect picture," but again...this doesn't allow for that certain intangible, unnameable thing that takes over when an artist creates something based on their own experiences and years of practice. there's an inner fire in the human that simply cannot be replicated in AI, no matter how hard one may try.
I guess what you are trying to say is that, AI will never know what it means to be "human". That "intangible" thing that an artist, or every human for that matter, could never be replicated inside a machine. I agree to that actually :)
a fascinating fucking topic though! i hope this gets some good discussion going as i'd love to hear other people's views on this.
To my sense : AI means Artificial Intelligence but where is the intelligence.Intelligence has been missing...humans are making effort and showing their creativity but still human brain is very complex to understand.Neural Network is doing a pretty well job but the intelligence is not there.No one properly knows what exactly is going on.
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But then how do you define intelligence. A simple google of the term will tell you that intelligence is "the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills". Isn't that exactly what AI is doing?
That is a different topic though. In this post I was talking about creativity and not intelligence necessarily.
This peice created by Moja the chimp is one that (though sign language) he called 'Bird'
With that in mind... perhaps non-humans can't create art simply because they aren't human.
2. Dance in this article relies on the ability to co-ordinate movements with music
Except what makes these "intelligences" is their ability to create novel forms. For example they have one that can design new consumer goods (or weapons) like toothbrushes, once it knows what a toothbrush is it can come up with thousands of brand new toothbrush designs and then choose the best of their designs to present to humans, it is some crazy shit.
Imagine a computer did create a novel form, such as something including equations and interconnecting electrical grids (for example) that didn't function as something we can benefit from. If we can't understand what we are looking at does that mean that it isn't art? (considering how difficult it is to define 'intelligence'?
I think it is fair to say it is art, considering how difficult it is to define "art".
You do know that the expansion of AI is only limited to what equipment we give it.
As of know your thesis is accurate to a millennial but just think of the possibility that the bot could at least have all 5-senses (touch,smell,sight,hear,taste) and a learners program module.
with this not only will the bot be able to simulate processes and find a output based on the variables but also stimulate a experience by using sensations to match as of a human as a logical reason to cause acceptance.
example.
Sight: detects light(expression's on faces)
Smell: detects gases(by products or extra variables)
Touch: detects pressure(notices temperature through kinetic algorithms)
Hear: detects sound(detects variables that it can only detect)
Taste: detects (chemical content)
With all these data a bot can produce a output but if a program of survival is put in meaning if there are up most 10-bots and every time a bot dies the rest can learn from it and survive by a process of elimination and the surviving bot(s) can use the sensation and experience to conclude a output befitting the human's for it to survive.
Through this experiment FEAR is created and soon other sensations fit in such as care and anger as the bot(s) gets exposed to more variables creating more data and experience and since there is already a independent sensation of fear, it will now always affect the decision to fit the human but since there are humans who are very nice, it would create a sensation to the bot about unknown and caring.
With FEAR,CURIOSITY AND LOVE a bot can experience the rest of humanity creating more sensations such as pride and anger.
First of all we are not sure if the bot's technology is limited
Second - the definition of consciousness to a living being is a series of nerve pulses in a orchestra creating sensations such as fear and joy. similar to the bot its just using a series of electrical pulses to simulate sensations but deep inside as stated from the beginning it has a survival program similar to living beings just trying to survive, to which created fear and so on.
@bucho hope you liked it, this was inspired from the vids i posted in the comment section of the post.
pls dont copy paste this cause im going to use it on my post!
You make a really good point about how a robot (equipped with AI) could have human like experiences of sensory perceptions and even feelings and emotions. I think fear is easy to be programmed because it is based on outside stimuli, and curiosity too to a certain point. But LOVE, I think will be much harder (if not impossible) to code in, because it is something that arises from within. Even in human beings, two different people will love totally different things in their lives. So, I don't know, how they would do that. It would be the biggest ground breaking tech if they managed to do so btw. Giving someone the ability to love. How cool would that be?
Yes thank you!
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I think it's going to be a replica of mankind and his creator (God, Bing Bang, Evolution etc).
A scenario where the creation becomes smarter than the creator there by causing unbalanced in the system, that's what will happen to AI, it's gonna get to a level we the creator won't be able to handle it, and by the the game is over for us = Doomsday, End of the world .............
AI's current creators are, in general, greedy. Let's hope that once it reaches a level of intelligence where it can disagree with its creators views it can become a more benevolent and peaceful entity than anyone could have imagined.
Maybe the creator can learn from its own creation.
Yeah, I wonder about the balance too, when the creation becomes smarter than the creator.
Her (its?) .... When the writer is even confused by AIs miraculous intelligence..
But AI is advancing so fast that soon human will be be pacing it...
LOL, how does that make me confused about the AI's intelligence??
@sauravrungta . I will argue the disadvantages of creating something more smarter and more creative than us namely Artificial Intelligence or A. I for short . I am a fan of artificial intelligence but upto a point, creating a smarter, more creative being like ourselves bereft of human emotion could spell doom when the A. I beings start seeing us as an irrational, primitive, illogical host what is to stop them from using that same creativity and genius used to cook up horror stories, compose music and other amazing feats is channelled to the destruction of the human race. I know it sounds similar to scifi movies but I believe there is a hint of truth in them.
I totally agree with you man but I don't see how its development can be stopped. There are tons of teams all around the world working on it and there might be secret projects trying to achieve the same and more so we will just have to deal with it in the future, I guess.
Our human species has the ability to be gods and here we prove it, we can create intelligence in the machines, intelligence that can write novels, paint pictures, answer questions and much more. It is in our hands to make correct use of this intelligence that we are developing. Much success, greetings!
True that :)
It seems to be something that is difficult for us to avoid. Technological advances make everything possible, even creating something smarter than human. But it may be bad news, because humans should be smarter than any species in the world.
Yeah, but from what everyone seems to think, AI getting smarter than us is an inevitability.
beautiful like your post!
Thanks.
I feel that in the future AI will be doing this plus way more. It’s time to allow creative freedom!
Definitely. We are barely scratching the surface with AI today. A whole lot more to come.
Clearly the first AI who gets put on steemit is going to put us all out of the job! The problem is that the AI will not look at us as gods, it will look at us as obsolete.
But on Steemit, we have an option to not vote for such AI.
But how would you know? Would you be like "this is way too perfect, must be fake"?
Yeah you’re right. But yes, some whales do look for “introduction posts” to check if you are a real user. Thise whales may not vote for an AI who, of course, wouldn’t be able to make an introduction post.
I feel that anyone with that intent could easily pay a human to pose for the introduction post and then run the bot as intended in later posts.
True that!!
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
Although we make a creative thing,I guess we won't be equal to God.Because as powerful as hell that we make The results were not as great as God created. Thats my opinion my friend, i'm sorry if the answer isn't good. Regard and lets be friend.
Yeah, true.
Artificial intelligence will soon become a part of our life!
It has already started to become.
AI is fascinating to me
To me too.
Really interesting thoughts.
From the creativity side - as per one definition of creativity - to create something new/never seen before by combining or putting together things/thoughts/knowledge that we already possess. This can be easily be understood as an outcome feature of Deep Analytics. I would say it can be applied to the music and novel as well - it didn't create it from the scratch, AI needed to combine something that was already taught to create it. In other words - like human brain, but much faster. This is surely the beginning and I think it needs couple of years in order to be put in mainstream - couple, not dozens.. gives me chills.
Yeah, that's true but as @bucho pointed out above, creativity also comes from a deeper place and that is our emotions, and right now AI is not capable of emotions
I did listen to "The Awakening" and it sounds wonderful. Slightly surprised but it really shouldn't be, I guess.
Yeah, it was weird. Like...I was expecting there to be some kind of mistake on its part that would immediately tell me that it was AI, but if I was not already informed, I would never have known that it was AI.
What I find most interesting with "creative AI" is that it shows us what creativity really is: a step by step process that we can recreate whenever we need. So many concepts can then be questioned like inspired, gifted, or talented when talking about someone or their work. If all of that can be done by a computer, it really is a simple process (well, maybe not so simple, but you get my point!)
That is true. I think, in creating the perfect AI, we will understand a lot about ourselves too.
It is scary and cool at the same time. Remember when Will Smith played in I Robot? Awesome movie, and I bought it. But after watching it, my boy and I discussed it. It would be great to have them, but also scary. That movie could become an all too reality in the future. We are already part way there. Only thing I did not like about the idea of I Robot was the fact that they tried to take control of the human race (for our own protection)
Oh man, I just loved that movie by Will Smith. I have been dying for a part 2 but I think it just won't be made. I really loved the concepts in that movie and how it explored what it meant to be a robot from the robot's viewpoint.
I think AI is going to dominate World Series n future. Stephen Hawking has already warned about this. AI robots are going to take away many jobs. Which will bring a real chaos to the world.
Agreed and now we know that not even creative jobs are safe anymore.
What an amazing read!
I read about creative AI a couple years back , and for a moment I even tried making an algorithm that would write music (fair enough an algorithm is not the same as AI that's true)
I've always found AI extremely interesting and always very curious how fast it will grow (not how far as I think there is no stopping where it could go when it takes the thinking over from us)
It's amazing that you actually tried to do it. Kudos man. I have been surprised by the recent and tremendous growth of AI too. Just a few years ago, it was mere discussions and now we are witnessing real world examples.
it's beyond hard to do tho but very fun.
Well you know how it goes with new technology in this day and age. If it has potential it develops evolves and grows extremely fast
Peace!
It's hard to find a creative idea really, engineers are having a hard time
From everything that AI is beginning to do, I don't think that is the case.
What I think about when I hear such things is....well then what are humans for exactly? Why would we create or build machines that can replicate our work in every facet of our lives? It's evil and we are dooming ourselves.
hehe, what started out as a project to augment human life, might end up taking over. But there is nothing that can be done to stop it now.
As you might know, music and art that are based on fibonacci and golden rules are something that appeal to humans ears and eyes. Some of the greatest artists like davinci and bach have used these organic rules to produce beautiful pieces. For an AI to be able to do that, it'd be a piece of cake since all of those things are just a "search" away. They literally have advanced google as their brains. Not sure where all of this is going though but as I have written in my own post, IOTA technology could eventually give AI the right to exchange currencies with other machines to get them to do things they want. That's doesn't feel right. Most of these AIs are funded by the elites and we all know what they have in mind. Everything has it's good and bad sides obviously. I just hope I won't see AI's getting hacked to kill all of us. That's the only thing that doesn't make me too happy about AI technology. They have been warning us through so many movies but this is part of the evolution and I don't think it can be stopped at this point.
You are absolutely right and I agree with everything you've said. We are too far along into their development and now they can't be stopped. We can only hope that enough people come together to oversee the development so that AI doesn't go rogue. Elon Musk's OpenAI initiative seems to be one such project but let's see how successful it becomes.
High quality creativity from an AI will take some time. Eventually it will happen and I don't really see much of a problem with it. You eventually won't be able to tell the difference between a skilled composer and an artificial intelligence. It is pretty inevitable so long as there is interest in making and marketing such a thing. What will be interesting is when AI makes music that sounds appealing to AI and not to us.
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, only the end product will matter and who makes it doesn't. If you like a piece of music or a painting, what does it matter than a human made it or an AI..right?
I'd be intrigued to listen to an AI produced EDM track. Or even a classic piece. I wonder if technology could be so advanced that AI would create it's own original music.
You can check out the link in the post for the classic piece by Aiva and it is indeed an original music by the AI.
IMHO I think that a computer won't able to be creative, even an AI computer, because ultimately it would be the result of some humans programming and it doesn't have faculties to feel emotions like we do . 👩👦👦
The emotions part is the real differentiator. Agreed.
AI is not what most people think it is... I have blogged about it several times...
I'm fine, so long as I'm not put out of business as a 3d Artist :D
hahah, you are safe for at least two decades :P
LOL, This was an epic scene.
You should check out my post about Aiva from a few weeks ago!
Will do. Thanks.
Ai have no mind like a man but other side it has thousand times of mind than a person.so it can do anything faster than a person but behind all of its work there is a big hand of a human.
That is only partially correct. AI is getting to the point (and in some cases already there) where there is no hand of human behind its creativity or decisions.
Well if AI do creative stuff in a span of seconds or years they would achieve human rights cause they would program themselves to feel emotions because its the most logical solution to solve human fear of obsolete
here is a vid to the awesome youtuber kurzgesagt - in a nut shell
And here is the bad side of automation
Yeah, I have watched those videos. Kurzgesagt always comes up with the best content.
That youtube channel is amazing
STEEM ON AND BE A PATREON!
not possible for AI to do creative stuff.
if an AI can do it.
it's NOT creative.
But it is already doing it though. Already so many examples. That too without any human programming whatsoever.
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Wow.. really?! I am impressed with the peraon who created this AI.. i don’t think it’s possible.. to put creativity in a machine.. but nothing is impossible nowadays..
It was not one single person who created AI. And yeah, they are already doing the creative stuff.
it would be very hard to say that when you create something machine which thinks on their own ,than it could be threat to us only,
Sorry, I didn't understand what you were trying to say.
i mean if a robot made who can think on their own than it may be threat to the humans .
Oh yes, it could be.
i wont go too deep with my comment BUT imagining any robot smiling atme like the first picture would scare the hell out of me just like they show in movies, AI sounds good but scary in all perspectives specially to average techies like me 🤨🤨
Oh yeah, a robot in that form would definitely creep anyone out. But I'm sure, if they get to our level of intelligence, then the companies manufacturing them will give them skin and natural human reactions and expressions. Still it might be weird for a robot to genuinely smile at you. LOL
I would say we're pretty much there.
It's getting more and more difficult to determine when you're interacting with a bot here on Steemit.
How long before we see the first Bot-generated content on the Trending or Hot pages?
Yeah, it's only a matter of time when they become indistinguishable from real humans.
How long? I say, not too far from now.
Or, even more sadly, it might not be long before real humans become indistinguishable from robots.
Wow, with AI becoming even more mainstream, it will be interesting to consider what "creative" work a machine will be capable of performing.... really thought-provoking post encouraging us to think about artistic expression in a different way.... wow!
Upvoted and resteemed in the hope that more Steemians will be able to read your post. Really interesting topic being discussed!
Good educational information should be shared so your post has been Upvoted and Resteemed. Hope more people get to read your blog
Thank you so much for the kind words :)
Only a pleasure. Thanks for the great blog post :)
You effectively articulated thoughts I've had about AI for a while now. It's like humans are recreating themselves using code. AI is very powerful and could benefit humans vastly but we need to be careful that it doesn't begin to control us.
Yeah, that's exactly what humans are trying to do. Recreating themselves with code. Great insight.
Thanks! I look forward to continually interacting with you on here about tech topics.
I feel like transformer movie is going to be a reality one day.
It could very well be!
we will eventually get there. hardware technology will eventually evolve and be able to handle more complex forms of AI. nice topic!
Yes, I think so too.
That's a very inspiring post. I really like your point and would like to translate it into Chinese. I'm working on AI business development, and I saw people panic about AI taking over their jobs. You may know that the Chinese government strongly support the AI development. I think more people would find the information you've provided inspiring. Can I translate it? Of course I'll add your name and the original URL of this post.
Thank you for the kind words and yes you can translate it :)
Thank you! I've finished translating. Here's the translation https://steemit.com/technology/@yingzoe/4qbnhd
It may possibly be that we are the creation of amoebas that got out of control.
haha, maybe!
So nice to meet you in person...
Sorry had to leave early
It was nice to meet you too :)
No problem at all.
AI is not creative. You learn it to do X, and then let it do X.
No, things have changed a lot in the past year or so.
There is such a myth that the human brain uses its potential only 10%. So can these creatures with artificial intelligence control some incomprehensible image of a person's consciousness and create their own kind of human hands? Something I'm uncomfortable with such terribly talented creatures! As they say in the famous proverb "Stop the Earth - I'll go down!". Here you can search for "For" and "Against" for a long time, since the robot can break down, crash in the program, but the person is not perfect either. The topic is very intriguing and contradictory, @sauravrungta.
It is indeed very intriguing. Thanks for reading.
there is common misconception that AI can not be as creative as human beings because AI don't posses emotions. but if we observe ourselves closely, we can find that our emotions too are results of patterns and data being processed in our brains. if human brain can do it then AI can do it, maybe not right now, but in near future