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RE: Better than UBI - Why UBI is MAGICAL Thinking.

in #ubi7 years ago (edited)

I agree with what u said about incentives in economy but I dont see UBI as magic money apearing out of nowhere its to do with distribution of existing money at the moment we have a social welfare system full of abusers that costs more to run than it actually provides think of every government agent employed to file and decide if you actually should be aloud to claim welfare sack the leeches and how much more would be in the pot? Also amount of money that is spent on fraud prevention and then prosecuting the guilty party I believe it could be a way of simplifying the existing system if you would keep it at a low covering only a very limited bare survival you wouldnt even remove the incentive from economy who would want to live of 20 $ or £ a week? If they could do otherwise yet for somebody going throught hard times that might make all the difference and often people in borderline situations eg. Low paid work aren't recognized by the system as in need of welfare so they get no help at all yet people who could work but decide low pay work would be "beneath" their social position and just play the system(I sadly have known people like that in the past) suddenly get their rent payed and money for a relativly comfortable life all that would stop if UBI replaced what we have now

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I prefer that communities (not the govern-cement) provides minimum housing, food and clothing. (See my earlier posts.)

On your idea of simplifying welfare. It seems like it would work, but really it ends up raising the prices of everything. Lets say you gave everyone 100£ / week. What ends up happening is that everything you would buy (especially rent) goes up by 110£ / week. And so, all the poor are even poorer.

And, the real reason UBI is pushed is that everything goes up 110£ / week, and so everyone become reliant on that UBI. And now, the govern-cement has control over everyone that much more.

"And, the real reason UBI is pushed is that everything goes up 110£ / week, and so everyone become reliant on that UBI. And now, the govern-cement has control over everyone that much more."
Yes I could see that happening as well

Not everybody belongs to a community though after all they create govern-cements and too often act like vicious sheep

Thinking things through while living a solitary life on my small boat far from society for now.

Yes I could see that happening as well

It is what the psychopaths in power want mostest of all. More power.

And, it is often necessary to completely disengage from society so that you can see it for what it is.


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> Yes I could see that happening as well
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Thanks for the tip, I have been wondering how to make quatations stand out in grey but not so much as to bother with the markdown styling guide.so just worked around the problem.
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