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in #ungrip7 years ago

I am still exploring both sides to this. Naturally, I feel like the 'system' and our way of governing (in Canada and USA) is broken to a point where it is not fixable, due to the innate system of power, greed and the dependence it creates in people.

I feel like self governence is the solution, because it gives people freedom as well as responsibility over their own lives. However, I also see that public education could do some good, and hospitals save lives. I do not think that public education and hospitals can only be there if we have a government however, because they are founded upon people. People could still do their jobs and even get paid without the government though. Maybe the question is how do we re-learn to cooperate without the government getting into our business, and how do we deal with violence with peace?
As others have said, the solution seems to be that we have to re-educate ourselves and teach our children how to self-govern and be peaceful, and then self-governance will work.

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So in the end, it still comes down to what each individual does with their own life and how they are going to interact with others. Lots of talk about systems, currencies, etc but in the end I can only change myself. So I chose to work on myself first. Then as I explore my own life and relationships I am confronted with how I can interact with others along the way. I choose to influence people rather than try to change them or engage in force or coercion. This is, I believe, the root cause of peace and why we fail to find it in this world. The sad thing is that we must do this despite the war and chaos going on around us. I agree with you @skycae. I'm not convinced that the solution is based in a system at all, but rather in a state of mind and spirit. When we allow spirit to express itself within our lives, then we will see great change. Spirit is an untapped force upon this earth that has GREAT influence that most people avoid exploring. In the end, blockchains, cryptocurrencies, governments and other systems are still fictional constructs and are susceptible to disruption and corruption. Spirit centric governance models have not been discussed here yet.

Well said that we can only change ourselves! What would "Spirit centric governance models" look like or what are some of them?

I don't know. I'm exploring that question and I attempt to answer it in my book. But until we all start exploring that question and working through the implications of a spirit centric governance model, I don't have an answer for you. My heart does tell me though that it will manifest all by itself as we explore those questions and there will be millions of different ways to express it. It will be beautiful and simple when we "get it". So if I have to make a bunch of mistakes along the way, so be it. <3 But I am fully committed to exploring spirit centric governance within my own life and I find that the environment that I live in plays a huge role in how it unfolds. The indigenous feel that the law form is governed by the land, aka natural law. I am exploring those law forms as well. I don't want to dismiss anything at this point.

"Spirit-centric governance" is , I believe, what is described in Nature and the NT. (I did NOT say religion or its divisive teachings and practices) I submit that the NT describes and instructs how to "walk in spirit. That understanding of the NT has been hidden by all the self-serving teachings emanating from the various dividing factions of Christianity seeking to bolster their personal power and privilege. Of all the other "religious" texts I've read the Eight Fold Path also describes a set of practices very similar to what is in the NT. That original teaching has, like the teachings of Christ, been divided, adulterated and exploited for personal gain. The problem isn't that we don't know what to do it's that we refuse to do it!

PS - @wwf would you please set up an account on steemit.chat so I can send a direct message and not clutter this post? At your convenience of course.