RE: Did Zelensky just commit political suicide? Crazy stuff. Trump/JD Vance accused Zelensky of being disrespectful in the oval office, starting an argument while having "no cards".

[gatet]

Pure theatre. The United States cannot abandon Ukraine, let alone Europe. That would seriously undermine American national security.

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[borsengelaber]

That’s also a valid Point. They would give Russia and China more power over Europe. Haven‘t thought about it from this side yet.

[stayoutoftherz]

One has to have quite a strange self-image to believe that the "national security" of his country is threatened on another continent, 10.000 miles away. US is not the world. It behaved in the past like it, but can´t afford to do it anymore. Trump has realized that a multipolar world is better than a unipolar one. More peace and business, less costs.

[noloafing]

You say they "can't", but I say they already have. They have essentially defunded the CIA, put a puppet in charge of the FBI and DOD. They have already seriously undermined their national security, why not take this next step?

[apshamilton]

This is simply not true.

The US has traditionally not got involved with disputes between European powers.

It only got involved:

1. right at the end of WWI to get a seat at the victor's table;
2. to defeat the ideology of national socialism (Nazism) that threatened the USA;
3. to defeat the ideology of international socialism (Communism) that threatened the USA.

Russia is not a threat to the US.

There are two reasons why the US may withdraw from NATO and let Russia dominate Europe:

1. European embrace of the ideology of globalist woke socialism (The Woke Mind Virus) IS a threat to US national security - the Biggest Threat as VP Vance stated. Russia is traditionalist, not woke, are will erase The Woke Mind Virus in Europe.

2. Trump is trying to pull Russia away from China and Iran.
   This is far more important to the US than Ukraine.