You know, most people on here are pretty tired of me by now. They mostly disagree with what I've said. Some even find me rude.
But I haven't called anyone any names, like nitwit, or told anyone they have devious, malicious intentions, and I certainly haven't wished anyone to a special place in hell.
My primary doctor had her kids vaccinated. My child's pediatrician had her kids vaccinated. They are both exemplary physicians, and they are not uncritical medical sycophants. Like most doctors in the world, they vaccinate their kids so that they do not die of easily preventable communicable diseases.
You can have an allergic reaction to a vaccine. The standards of informed consent demand that people know this. The allergic reaction you can have does not cause the myriad of health issues that you wish to blame on vaccines.
The evidence simply doesn't back up these claims. We can get things wrong in medicine. I get that. A whole generation of people were not breast fed, for example, because we erroneously thought the ability to fortify formula made it superior to breast milk. When the evidence started to show the benefits to a baby's immune system outweighed the benefit of formula, standards changed again.
The preponderance of medical evidence doesn't back up these anti-vax claims. It just doesn't. I'm sorry that your grandsons are experiencing some kind of health issue. But maybe, just maybe, the reason no doctor is gonna back you up and blame their vaccines isn't because they are all "nitwits" who deserve a "special place in hell". Maybe it's because the vaccine simply isn't why that happened to them.
Believe it or not, most of us in healthcare really aren't out to get you.
"Believe it or not, most of us in healthcare really aren't out to get you."
NO most health care professionals fall into the category of ' uncritical medical sycophants' only a few would fall into the total nitwit category. Nevertheless, they are bossed over by ivy league business grads, who actually set the pace of medical attention. You are aware that The CDC is a private company, aren't you? What do you think their yearly take from widespread vaccinations is? If it is not in the billions I will lick a belt sander.
I’m sorry you have such a poor opinion of the thousands of healthcare workers, be they nurses, doctors, techs, researchers, who work extraordinarily hard to keep you safe and healthy, often for less money than they deserve.
I’m not an apologist for big pharma. You can have all the criticisms of the business end of the healthcare industry you want.
Doesn’t change the fact that these vaccines work, and are essential in the prevention of devastating disease. Being mad at the CDC (an organization that the author of the post finds reputable enough to cite, btw) isn’t going to prevent anyone’s kids from getting polio.
Healthcare workers may or may not care, they are human but they are working in a system that has the largest kill rate of all of our institutions.
I’m not sure what your point is?
Which institutions, other than healthcare, deal with procedures on the body than involve such a degree of risk?
Patients have to consent to what’s done to them, and when they do they are told that there are risks involved, risks of something going wrong, even sometimes risk of death.
Luckily vaccines are not at that level of risk, and in fact are our best defense against very lethal diseases.
Humans make errors in healthcare sometimes, but humans are the only doctors and nurses we’ve got, you know?
Anyway, I’m not going to tell someone they shouldn’t go to the ER when their femur breaks just because doctors mess up sometimes.
My point is the statistics....broken bones are different from immune systems.
Vaccines don’t fall into the category of medical errors you’re citing with that NPR story, because giving a vaccine in and of itself isn’t a medical error.
Medical errors happen. Someone is given the wrong drug, or a doctor doesn’t notice a drug allergy and the patient has a reaction. Someone leaves necrotic tissue behind during surgery and the patient gets a fatal infection. I don’t believe I’m defending the infallibility of physicians here by stating the simple fact that vaccines don’t do what this author and some of the commenters claim.
We were talking about the quality of healthcare workers here, stay on topic, I was responding to that topic...
The Bosses of all you well informed and well meaning medical professionals have a business model wherein my twin grandsons are an acceptable cost of doing business.
I’m not sure that keeping my own child from getting vaccines, and having him end up with polio or smallpox is an acceptable cost of soothing your anger.
I don’t know what happened to your grandsons. It sounds serious and I’m sorry for the anguish it causes you.
Deciding for yourself that vaccines are to blame, and then brushing off every doctor that tells you there’s no credible evidence of that just doesn’t seem to me like the right way to deal with it.
Honestly, y’all are acting like no one would get sick or injured if they just didn’t get vaccinated.
People can’t get a vaccine for every disease, and they can’t get inoculated against broken bones, or renal failure, or a stroke.
We don’t need to make kids sick to stay in a job.
Try refusing to do something you know is wrong on your job and tell me how that works out for you.
I’m not sure how that’s related?
Are you saying the doctor who vaccinated your grandkids did so knowing they shouldn’t?
That would mean they put their medical liscence on the line to keep some scary anonymous boss happy? Not sure what you mean.
In any case, refusing to do things that are wrong is a big part of my job.
Patient didn’t give consent? No surgery.
Patient isn’t stable enough to transport? I’m not following the transport order.
Patient refuses a vaccine? I’m. Not. Giving it. Even though it’s a real bad choice.
The doctor sees you for ten minutes he forms his opinion based on his training and experience. If in his experience he sees other doctors suffer legal consequences for diagnosing vaccine injury his choice is simple, move you on, "next patient please."