Putting a face to the dangers of vaccines

in #vaccines7 years ago (edited)

With the 1017-2018 flu vaccine push ramping up I felt it important to share the consequences of getting that untested dangerous vaccine. I received a flu vaccine that was mandated by my employer 4 years ago. I was faced with get the flu shot or get fired, and because I was bullied I am still suffering the consequences to this day.

My life continues to be a nightmare as I am plagued with MANY food allergies that I did not have prior to receiving the vaccine. I can no longer eat almost 100 healthy foods that I once enjoyed. As you can see I get disfiguring rashes and swelling on my face and in my mouth that can last for weeks. I also have dangerous episodes of extremely high blood pressure that has landed me in the hospital and all this has cost me thousands of dollars. I get absolutely no help from my family physician because God forbid my problem be traced back to that forced vaccine.

Medscape Medical News shared recent information that was discussed at the American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology (ACAAI) 2013 Annual Scientific Meeting. But considering what has happened to me their findings only touch a tip of the iceburg.

BALTIMORE — A new allergy risk to a common ingredient has been identified in a recent case study that has implications for vaccination. Gelatin, often found in lunchmeats, jellies, and gummy candies, is also used in vaccines, and allergy — though rare — can trigger anaphylaxis.
An allergy to egg is no longer considered a risk of flu vaccination, but investigators presenting here at the American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology (ACAAI) 2013 Annual Scientific Meeting warned that gelatin allergy can be a problem.
It is rare, and the first case reports were published in the mid-1900s, Stephanie Albin, MD, from the Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at Mount Sinai in New York, New York, told Medscape Medical News. However, it can present significant issues because many vaccines — and foods — contain gelatin.
Gelatin is a mixture of peptides and proteins produced by partial hydrolysis of collagen extracted from cow, pig, and fish, she explained. Patients with gelatin allergy do not react to meat because gelatin is derived from tendons and bones rather than the flesh. And gelatin in vaccines is more likely to cause an allergic reaction because it is concentrated, purified, and processed and has direct access to the immune system through injection.
Vaccines that contain gelatin include those against influenza; measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR); varicella; yellow fever; zoster; rabies; Japanese encephalitis; and diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (DTaP).

This morning I woke to a presentation in my email box given by Del Bigtree regarding vaccine safety. So taking into consideration the time of year and the challenges I now face on a daily basis I felt the need to share this MUST SEE video in the hopes that many will see the potential dangers associated with vaccines.

The ingredients of vaccines do not support good health in fact they destroy the body's immune system and puts you at risk for major health problems. Become informed and speak out before it is too late. The government program Healthy People 2020 is right around the corner and your right of self-determination is at risk.

Take it from me vaccines are NOT safe and effective!

Sources:
Photos takes with my Samsung Galaxy S5
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814826

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You’re so fucking full of shit it’s not even funny. Moron.

There are many times that you can be useful @berniesanders, but this sort of attack is just disgusting. Really, this sort of reaction is completely useless and unwarranted. Plus you used 3 Randowhale accounts to vote for this garbage comment. Seriously?

All our society has is ANECDOTAL evidence of vaccine harm because the establishment has too much invested in the sham that is vaccines. There are COUNTLESS examples of "medically established truths" that have later been shown to be utter bullshit.

The future of medicine lies in Epigenetics. Only when a patient's genetics are paired with potential medicines will we have proper treatments. Then we would know that a person will react adversely to whatever substance being introduced to their system. But we are the transitionary generation that gets to be the guinea pigs and test subjects before the real tech comes out.

When you have to resort to ad-hominem attacks to defend your opinion, you show your lack of reason or facts, or validity.

Another comment with arguments from pathetic moron. Well done, you pathetic multiple personality moron.

All of these comments and no flags.

They know they are hurting people because they are afraid to debate.

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I’m sorry @marymg2014, but I think Bernie may be heavily invested in the vaccine industry. His reaction is over the top! I’m not going to write a long response but I’m getting to work on the history of vaccines and horror stories of modern medicine...safety has nothing to do with profits and control

Have you see the documentary Rockefeller Medicine it is enlightening.

I look forward to your post.

Not yet but I've read about how they started our modern day medical monopoly!

I believe the phrase is "follow the money" Let me know what you think of it.

I will my friend and I will also start supporting the people who are against forced medicine!

The minute something is mandated and forced credibility goes away.

I've been fighting a wonky immune system since the early 90s and the medical establishment almost medicated me to death. When I say I understand, I really understand!

Prevention is better than cure.
Also, we should not see the health related issue from the perspective of an investor or a businessman.
It is a serious issue while there is already a serious consequences of climatic change which is happening.

Hi, Mary,

I just came across your article, a bit too late to vote for it, but in time to re-steem. ;)

I am so sorry to hear of your suffering. Are you familiar with colloidal silver? It might be of help to you as you attempt to remediate the damage done.

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We make a fully automatic machine that produces high-quality 10ppm colloidal silver, and if you are interested in seeing whether it would help your condition, I would like to send you a remanufactured one at no cost to you. All I would ask would be for you to promise to use it.

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Oh my goodness HOW KIND OF YOU!!!!!!! I am very familiar with Colloidal silver and truly appreciate its benefits I will see you in Steemit chat! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

Wow! I am so sorry my friend. I know that you have been having a hard time lately, and I had hoped that you would start improving by now.

Thanks for being vulnerable and showing the world just what these forced flu shots have done to you. It is disgusting that they push or even force these on people, when they come with so many potential dangers.

I thought it was worth the embarrassment if it makes even one person pause and consider the ramifications of getting a vaccine.

worth the embarrassment

Well said and fully agreed!

Thank you your support means a lot to me.

Might be a silly question as I am new to this pond here but must ask: Are you doing any major detox? I have researched the pros and cons with vaccinations for many years and what I have found is that it is the most barbaric practice in today's world.

Yes I am it is a 7 week herbal cleanse detox program and is difficult to maintain but I have to try because life as it is, is even more difficult.

If you haven't researched Diatomaceous Earth you may want to. What I like about the DE is that it is made up of silica and that combined with malic acid can literally pull aluminum away from the synapses of the brain in the case you may have been exposed to fluoride at some point. Great area of research,e specially for the times we all live in. Blessings to you and yours!

yah Mike Adams (the health ranger youtbe) recommends horsetail (the plant) in tea to provide the silica for ridding the body of aluminum.

Horsetail plant is a Chinese medicinal herb. Maybe an acupuncturist can help you because they prescribe Chinese herb. They can get it easily and cheap.

Great minds think alike! I think we would have wonderful conversation over tea. Unfluoridated water of course.

Yes, I am sure we would. :)

Makes me so angry what these forced medications (poisons) are doing to people. It's abhorrent.

Probably the most effective way to detox would be to drink distilled water. As water goes into every cell in the body it will pull out and attract all non-organic chemicals, compounds out from your body to be expelled naturally. The advantage also is that drinking water is something that I haven't heard anyone getting bored of doing :-) I detoxed this way to cure a auto-immune problem I have and arthritis that came with it (psoriatic arthritis) Your endocrine system will heal and bring your body back into balance, it will take time but this will be the most effective way to help the problems that you are facing. If you are already doing this then great, if not then please research distilled water as it's the only safe and healthy water to drink anyways. Oh and ignore all the rubbish and disinformation out there about drinking distilled water.

Thank you for the advice, I am currently in the process of a complete whole body herbal cleanse and it makes sense to follow up with water since I am a big fan of water anyways.

I love water too, chilled distilled water is the BEST! I hope you get a distiller and feel better :-)

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A Single Vaccine

nearly killed my child at birth. We're glad we said no to the standard vaccine stacker shot they harm children with daily. Look up pictures of infants who died from vaccine shots and you'll see massive versions of the signs our child exhibited.

To this day they have visible consequences of a single vaccination. Considering their intelligence, we may have gotten lucky on the non-visible mental consequences.

Why No Issue With Egg Allergy Anymore?

Because they now use a cancerous, self-replicating, dog's eye cell for cultivating vaccines. Where they used to use eggs, they now use vats of cancer cells. Seriously, you have to go look this up yourself it's that stupid.

Yeah, we skip flu and all other vaccines. There happen to be natural remedies for everything these days, easily researched with internet access. ;)

I am sorry that happened to your baby. Hugs to you.

No they don't they use chicken eggs. I have worked with vaccines in both the production of potential vaccines and the testing of it.

way to incorrectly skim!

Brilliant post and my respect and thanks for putting a face to the horrors that society mandates one does not speak of.

Just 2 weeks ago I went to a doctor (only because I'm required to produce medical certificates when away sick from work) and got told that I should have had the flu shot this year. I've only once had it and it made me very ill; exactly what we are told it's to prevent! Never again. I ignored the doctor's insulting and ignorant suggestion. Incidentally he prescribed me with medication for my virus that a 2nd doctor told me to stop taking 2 days later! They're not the bastion of wisdom they're upheld to be.

My best wishes and thoughts to you @marymg201. Following you.

Thank your for your comment and support, It is important to stand your ground I put this out there to show others what happens when you don't.

My pleasure and thank you.

Thank you for speaking out about your experience, I hope many will heed your wisdom!

And I am so sorry for all that you have been through this last 4 years :'( No one deserves that! :'( Hugs!!

Thanks for your kind words and the hug!

Very good idea to remind people of the dangers of the flu-vaccine, especially as the propaganda campaign is in full swing everywhere in the Northern parts of the world. When I was young, I didn't think about such things - free vaccine (at work), yeah, why not.... Who knows if that was not the cause of my getting a lot of allergies. Too late to wonder about that, but others should take your advice!

In my second world backwards country there is no flu-vaccine. People get few pills when they have flu and in few days they are good as new. I probably haven't even got 10 vaccines and haven't spent a single day at a hospital for being sick.

They count on people not putting the facts together.

WOW!! This is terrible. It seem that as time passes more and more cases similar to yours keep happening, but nothing is being done to big pharma pushing this nasty stuff of people. They treat the human population as lab rats. Hmmm maybe that’s why they have a fund set aside for vaccine injuries that are settled in vaccine court. My prayers go out to you. Thanks for sharing the dangers of these sick vaccines.

It is really the amount of money that Big Pharma has spent, why they are getting away with this. There was a report recently that they spent a whopping $880 MILLION over just 9 years to protect opioids and fight cannabis legalization. They are profiting as North Americans suffer thousands of deaths from the opioid crisis. It is incredible. It must stop.

Keeping people “drugged” up keeps them blind to what is goin on around them in a sense. Keeping them coming back for more meds to fight the side effects. My wife’s aunt was on some meds then more and more, the next thing we know she was taking a handful of pills a day. Loosing tons of weight, barely able to speak, fragile. It’s a slow kill operation and big pharma reaps the cash rewards from the insurance companies. They don’t care who they kill of injure, it’s about money!! I totally agree this has got to stop and when is the line in the sand goin to be drawn!!

Drugging the masses creates more patients. They are cash cows for the medical and pharmaceutical industry.

While cannabinoids may be able to replace some opioid use, as a long time chronic pain patient, they do not replace all of it.

The 'opioid crisis' is a tool to disenfranchise YOU from having access to the medicines YOU alone have the right to determine whether or not to use.

Don't believe the hype. Do your own research. Be wary of any institution or propaganda that seems likely to force people to use black markets, since those are far more profitable.

I assure you, there are profiteers manipulating this issue, that stand to make incredible black market profits from opiates. The pharmaceutical industry is frustrated that many opiate medicines are off patent, and the same source of opium creates black market drugs that are orders of magnitude more profitable than off patent opiates.

The CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the world, and also extraordinarily invested in propaganda, as well as finance, and big pharma.

Do give this issue some thought.

The current opioid crisis is a derivative of foreign policy wars in opium growing regions.

Among other things, such as the need to silence folk prescribed them, in which case it is quite easy to use an overdose to do so in a deniable way. A great many vets who have insider knowledge of various nefarious matters are Arkancided, IMHO.

yah there is also a weird aspect to all this that i encountered last year. A friend visited me from back east and had to cut his visit short because he could not find a doctor here in Washington to renew his opiate prescription. There was no way to alleviate his pain that was as effective as his usual prescription. And so he had to leave, he was chained to a geographical location by his meds. Might be a side benefit for the scum who run things.

It's one of the hazards of the 'opiate crisis', and due solely to the heightened security measures uniquely applied to such medicines.

He could have got his scrip for baby aspirin filled easily, most likely, unless insurance required his use of a particular pharmacy.

Pharmacy regs are much more reasonable in Mexico.

Thank you for your comment. Del Bigtree shared some eyeopening information!

He sure does!! Have you ever got on the CDC’s website and looked at what is in these vaccines? I will just say, disturbing. These poor children’s lives are being ruined all in the name of big pharma. Remember it’s for your safety😉

I am so sorry that you have had an adverse reaction to vaccines.

I'm fairly new to Steemit, so forgive me if it's not best practice to cover many aspects in one comment...

Since it was after something required for your job, did you file workers compensation? If not, you should.

Vaccines can trigger autoimmune disorders.
Source: medical textbook http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1118663438.html

As another commenter mentioned, consider a detox protocol.

Vaccines can and do injure. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is proof. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html

Epigenetics is a relatively new field of study, but unfortunately there is no money for vaccine manufacturers to invest in research to determine who should NOT receive a vaccine.

Where there is risk of injury or death, there must be choice.

Welcome to Steemit and thank you for your kind advice. Since the physicians work for the hospital that mandated the flu shot they will not document my ongoing problem to the severe reaction I had immediately following the injection they saw it is a coincidence. That is what they tell vaccine injury victims so there is no compensation for me. The medical textbook you refer to is a good one and hopefully it may open the eyes of those in this post who have called me names and insulted me but I highly doubt it. I am simply amazed at the level of hate beginning with the first post on this page. I am currently doing a detox and hopefully I will see results in the end. Epigenetics is a fascinating field and if the pharmaceutical industry can invent a vaccine they will because there is no liability for them when their vaccines cause damage. As a result they are very busy. I do not know any other industry that enjoys such freedom. You are so very right "where there is risk of injury or death, there must be a choice," but with Healthy People 2020 that choice is being taken away and the numbers of vaccine injured victims that are currently on the VAERS reporting site will only grow. And with freedom of speech being taken away as demonstrated by this post I do not see much good for the future of humanity.

It's easy to see who down voted this page, at least we know who and what we are up against. There is no hiding behavior on the blockchain.

I never have understood the bully mentality, what kind of person attacks, calls you names and even downvotes someone who is suffering with illness. They do not KNOW what caused or did not cause this to happen to me. Some even profess to be "nurses" and researchers and that even further validates that the medical profession is in serious trouble. And even sadder is the wealthy whale that downvoted me when I have so many medical bills, my last hospital bill was over $14,000.00..... what kind of person does that?

I'm so sorry you have to endure all this... I recently had a problem with rashes on my face and an allergy patch test was done to determine what I was allergic to. One of the few things I'm allergic to is THIMEROSAL! I was so upset as I don't know if this has damaged me in the past or not... as I do have mental health issues and and I wouldn't say I'm on the autism spectrum but I am very socially inept and it has caused many problems in my life.

Anyway when the dermatologist tells me this I say, "...So don't get the flu shot, right?" He says, "Yes, DO get the flu shot!" I said, "but I thought flu shots still have thimerosal as an ingredient," and he reassured me that they don't. Is this true because last I knew thimerosal was taken out of all but that vaccine.

I am so sorry to hear what has happened to you. Hear is a list of all the 2017 vaccines and their ingredients. I have also provided you with a link to be able to look up each individual ingredient on the MSDS information site. This way you can see for yourself exactly what is in vaccines and the risks and warnings with each ingredient.
I for one will not be getting any vaccines now that I have done that.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

https://www.msdsonline.com/msds-search/

Thank you!! I'll definitely look this over. Not planning on any vaccines anyway, but it's great to be able to know what's in them. :)

You are most welcome.... it is an eye opener for sure.

Just looked it over and sure enough, thimerosal is still in 3 of the flu shots listed!!

Sorry to see anyone having to go through this, but thank you for sharing your personal experience with us all. resteemed so that hopefully more can read this and become aware.

Wow, only can only assume you can't be alone... I mean there are a lot of stories of people with problems like this that are linked back to some type of vaccine... Flu shots are a scam in my opinion.

There are over 3000 strains of the flu and the "flu" shot covers one or 2 of them. They just happen to pick which strain they think will be most effective for that year.

It is very sad to see a lot of people suffering from Big Pharma scaring companies and employers into forcing people to get their scam of a drug....

Ugh, well I wish you well and hope you find some kind of relief from knowing that we are with you.

Thank you.

FEAR they are huckstering fear , and reaping gold. No different than the all purpose boogeyman used on the political front, the ever popular and scary terrierism.

Thank you so much for sharing your story, im sure it is not easy. I have watched vaxxed and other documentaries about the vaccine industry and i find it disgusting what they are injecting into people these days..
I am going to send a bunch a resteems ur way to try to help get ur story out there so people can get more informed.
Knowledge is power.
Thanks again for sharing ur story.

Thank you so much People need to know that is is not about disease prevention it is about creating more patients so Big Pharma and the medical establishment will make more money. There are 300 new vaccines coming and we need to say STOP! http://www.phrma.org/press-release/medicines-in-development-vaccines

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Wow! Really sorry to read about your troubles with vaccine. Your story is part of the revelations coming out about this devious science agenda.

I recently posted a Natural News story about this on Steemit: https://steemit.com/news/@holistichealing/bombshell-science-paper-documents-the-depopulation-chemical-covertly-spiked-into-vaccines

This seems to be part of a covert depopulation program. We have to rise up and fight back.

You are right if we don't educate others and speak out the future looks bleak.

Agreed. Thanks for sharing. I hope and pray that you have a full recovery.

Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers.

I hope this finds you well, I have been limited in my Steemit time recently. Please let me know if this is helpful, or not, and if there is anything else that might help, that I might be able to add.

While the multiple allergies may have their origin in a vaccine trigger, there may also be other contributing factors. When I had cancers I suddenly found myself with violent allergies or sensitivities to foods which I have eaten all my life. After additive and subtractive elimination diets, and environmental factors assessment, I was able to identify that glyphosate, in addition to mold contamination were the additions which caused the new food reactions not noticed upon my original vaccine damage. After eliminating all grains, nightshades, and anything that I could identify as being produced with glyphosate from my diet for a period of two years, along with some long term, low level detoxification, and removing myself from the mold contaminated Pacific Northwest, I am now able to tolerate many of the foods to which I had developed allergies or sensitivities.

Glyphosate has found it's way into almost every level of our food supply, and robs us of essential minerals, wreaking all kinds of havoc. Glyphosate has been found in the tendons of GMO fed animals, used to make gelatin. Along with aluminum, from vaccines, this creates a situation in which the glyphosate pulls the essential minerals out, while the strong +3 charge from the aluminum causes it to bind preferentially to the exclusion of the minerals left over from the chelation activity of the glyphosate. I am still trying to learn why the aluminum is not preferentially chelated by the glyphosate as well, but the elimination of glyphosate laden foods has improved my health considerably.

Glyphosate also acts as an antibiotic, disrupting our intestinal flora, and resulting in immune dysfunction. Dr. Don Huber, Professor Emeritus of Plant Pathology at Purdue, has said,

It takes less than a 10th of a part per million to be toxic to Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria and those other beneficial microorganisms in our gut. Yet EPA says it’s fine to have 30 parts per million in grain up to 400 parts per million in some food products. Now a half a part per million will disrupt the endocrine hormone system directly.

https://blog.bulletproof.com/don-huber-318/

Glyphosate can also act as a glycine analog, which is why it finds it's way into animal gelatin, and why it can take up long term residence in our own collagen structures. Glyphosate has also been found in vaccines.

Unfortunately, vaccines are not the only things to avoid in this toxic soup that we now call everyday life, but vaccines definitely are a critical part of many of the problems many suffer from today.

Great information on glyphosate! That's the active ingredient in Roundup, right?

Thanks!

Thank you for sharing your experience I can certainly identify with the efforts you had to go through to get to a higher state of good health. Because of the limited amount of food I am able to eat I am on an organic diet and I follow the Weston Price dietary recommendations.

I think it is sad that they now find glyphosate in the cord blood of new born babies. As a Master Gardener I educate gardeners about the dangers that hazardous chemical presents.

I think the flu shot shook up my immune system and that has had a negative effect on my body. The physicians all say that what occurred is a coincidence but that is what most vaccine injured persons are told. But I am going to be as persistent as you and I believe that I will eventually be able to eat the foods I currently have trouble with. I thank you again for sharing the information because it may open others eyes to the dangers of glyphosate.

"...they now find glyphosate in the cord blood of new born babies."

That is horrifying!

So sorry for your health issues!

Thank you for your kind comment.

In California, Governor Jerry Brown passed a law last year that a child from grade school through high school must have be vacicnated to attend the school.

They are unable to attend if they cannot prove that they have taken the shots. The pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars, and possibly bribing both doctors and politicians to get what they want.

It's sad that many people protested in CA regarding the mandatory vaccinations. But in the end, nothing happened. Money eventually corrupts and usually wins out over the right thing to do. Hope you feel/get better going forward.

How true. Thank you for your kind words of support.

I'm sorry you had such a bad reaction to the vaccine you took but vaccines do a lot more good for the general population than bad. It's odd that you were forced to take one and that it wasn't properly tested though. That's really shady stuff.

Thank you for your kind comment.

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Thank you so much!!!

Your flu vaccine was properly tested. I'm not sure you even know what vaccine testing entails.

There are a very small group of people who have an allergic or sensitivity reaction to a vaccine. That's a risk, but the vaccine does not imbue you with a lifetime if insane health issues like the ones you describe. A much bigger risk, say the risk of death by horrible disease, and infecting others with it, is what you take on when you refuse vaccines.

Blaming your slew of allergies and health issues on vaccines is a bit odd. And frankly, telling people not to get vaccinated is irresponsible.

How would it make you feel if you knew that some elderly immunocompromised person read this, and thought the flu vaccine would give them 100 allergies (it won't), then refused to get it and died from the flu.

People die from the flu. Do you realize that. Thousands of people die from the flu every year.

The flu didn't kill you though. You got vaccinated.

You have picked the worst vaccine of all to defend, because the Flu Vaccine is the least tested of ALL the vaccines. Each and every year, it is an Experimental Vaccine, as there is simply no time to test it for safety and efficacy.
Please take a few minutes to listen to this Scientist interviewed on the video below. He is not anti-vaccine and in fact he helped develop the DPT vaccine -- but he thinks that the Flu Shot should be STOPPED as it is incredibly risky.

p.s. I see that you are new here, but you should probably use your flag with much more caution. It is not meant to be used for simple disagreements. You may find yourself being flagged in return by someone with a lot more steem power than you have, and this could quickly destroy your account here by bringing your reputation below zero, which would grey out all of your posts.

It’s not a simple disagreement. The post is overvalued, in part because it is wild speculation masquerading as sound medical advice.

I’m glad you can find a scientist on YouTube to agree with you.

Personally, I have much more faith in the vast consensus of the medical community, the massive drop in flu deaths since the widespread use of seasonal flu vaccines and my own nursing school curriculum.

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You flagged several comments that were only worth a few cents. Were those overvalued too? I took the time to try to help you, since you are new and may not know how things work here. You flagged my comnent too. Your comment to the author comes off as rude, but most people on Steemit will not flag a rude comment. However, many WILL flag a rude comment if you have also flagged their comments or posts.
If I were to have taken offense at you, my single downvote is powerful enough to bring your reputation down to zero or less.
This is one reason that most people play nice on Steemit. If you have no interest in playing nice, than that is your choice and I am not telling you what you have to do -- just warning you of the likely consequences of your actions. It is totally your choice.

So -- if you want to have a real dialogue, than let's dialogue.
But I will not continue to dialogue with someone who continues to abuse flags.

Ok ... back to the original conversation. I see that you are a nurse in training.
The woman who wrote this post has been a nurse for many, many years, and is a friend of mine. She is VERY educated on this topic.

She’s not putting that education to very good use if she considers peddling junk science and conspiracy theories a good idea.

The fact that she was a nurse practitioner means people will treat the idea that you shouldn’t get vaccinated with an authority it doesn’t deserve.

Personally, I don’t feel I’ve a abused flagging here. You are perfectly free to see it differently.

Telling me in ominous tones that you can retaliate to my posts by flagging me and bringing down my reputation isn’t a good way to convince anyone not to flag material they find untrue, damaging to public health, and not worth one red cent.

I do not threaten to flag people for stating opinions that I disagree with. YOU are the one who used the flag. When you do that first, other people will flag you back -- but I have not -- because I like to have discussion and not flag wars when possible.
I simply warned you what a flag war would look like. But you do not appreciate my help, so I will end this discussion with you.

I’m sorry you feel that way. The anti-vax community is tight-knit and vocal. I’m sure your posts will still get votes.

Those threats are pretty bad form I have to say, saying you can make his rep zero. This guy is flagging because of disagreement but you are saying you will make it personal.

@americaurusrex there isn't a consensus here on "playing nice" etc. etc.

I never said that I would flag him, and I haven't.
I was explaining a possible scenario if someone like me had actually taken offense. I don't offend that easily.
I think that the only time that I flagged somebody that offended me was when noganoo wrote a post with my name in the title, and his #1 tag was "Satanists."
... so unless you write a post calling me out as a Satanist, you probably won't receive a flag from me ... lol ...

I do not easily throw flags around. It is this poster who throws his flags around. I disagreed with his original comment too -- but I did not flag it -- because I don't think that flagging for disagreement is acceptable.
If I had the same way of thinking as he does, I would have gone ahead and flagged it though.

That's the great thing about using an implication, you can always say you didn't say it directly and it was hypothetical. But the intent is clear to any reader.

You have your flag standards and he has his. Really it's a mountain out of mole hill, did you check his account? He has barely 28 SP. So it's really just about manners.

I think you guys all made your points anyhow.

Commom many big accounts use the flag to remind people to play nice and many big accounts go around flagging post they disagree with.... that’s the Steemit reality

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what the heck is PROPERLY tested? The US supreme court has deemed vaccines "unavoidably dangerous". No other consumer product has it's OWN COURT to handle lawsuits relating to injury because they do not need special protection the way vaccines do. Ask your bloody doctor which vaccines he gives HIS KIDS the most common answer is NONE. My twin grandsons were both injured by early (before 2 yrs) vaccinations pushed by the local clinic. They both need special upbringing because of the horseshit these uncritical medical sycophants squirted into their bodies. There is a special place in hell for nitwits like yourself and all the business oriented medical practitioners who do this for a profit.

I am so very sorry about what happened to your grandchildren. We need to keep speaking out so this unsafe practice stops. It was not easy for me to put these photos of what happens to my face on the internet but I felt hiding serves no purpose.

Please disregard the advice here. We really shouldn't be speaking out against a practice that keeps people safe, like vaccines.

I'm sorry your allergies make you swell. The flue shot didn't give them to you.

@americurusrexL, stop gaslighting us, it makes all the mandatory allopathic medicine pushers look insane and psychopathic.

You know, most people on here are pretty tired of me by now. They mostly disagree with what I've said. Some even find me rude.

But I haven't called anyone any names, like nitwit, or told anyone they have devious, malicious intentions, and I certainly haven't wished anyone to a special place in hell.

My primary doctor had her kids vaccinated. My child's pediatrician had her kids vaccinated. They are both exemplary physicians, and they are not uncritical medical sycophants. Like most doctors in the world, they vaccinate their kids so that they do not die of easily preventable communicable diseases.

You can have an allergic reaction to a vaccine. The standards of informed consent demand that people know this. The allergic reaction you can have does not cause the myriad of health issues that you wish to blame on vaccines.

The evidence simply doesn't back up these claims. We can get things wrong in medicine. I get that. A whole generation of people were not breast fed, for example, because we erroneously thought the ability to fortify formula made it superior to breast milk. When the evidence started to show the benefits to a baby's immune system outweighed the benefit of formula, standards changed again.

The preponderance of medical evidence doesn't back up these anti-vax claims. It just doesn't. I'm sorry that your grandsons are experiencing some kind of health issue. But maybe, just maybe, the reason no doctor is gonna back you up and blame their vaccines isn't because they are all "nitwits" who deserve a "special place in hell". Maybe it's because the vaccine simply isn't why that happened to them.

Believe it or not, most of us in healthcare really aren't out to get you.

"Believe it or not, most of us in healthcare really aren't out to get you."

NO most health care professionals fall into the category of ' uncritical medical sycophants' only a few would fall into the total nitwit category. Nevertheless, they are bossed over by ivy league business grads, who actually set the pace of medical attention. You are aware that The CDC is a private company, aren't you? What do you think their yearly take from widespread vaccinations is? If it is not in the billions I will lick a belt sander.

I’m sorry you have such a poor opinion of the thousands of healthcare workers, be they nurses, doctors, techs, researchers, who work extraordinarily hard to keep you safe and healthy, often for less money than they deserve.

I’m not an apologist for big pharma. You can have all the criticisms of the business end of the healthcare industry you want.

Doesn’t change the fact that these vaccines work, and are essential in the prevention of devastating disease. Being mad at the CDC (an organization that the author of the post finds reputable enough to cite, btw) isn’t going to prevent anyone’s kids from getting polio.

Healthcare workers may or may not care, they are human but they are working in a system that has the largest kill rate of all of our institutions.

A study by researchers at Johns Hopkins Medicine says medical errors should rank as the third leading cause of death in the United States — and highlights how shortcomings in tracking vital statistics may hinder research and keep the problem out of the public eye.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/03/476636183/death-certificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors

I’m not sure what your point is?

Which institutions, other than healthcare, deal with procedures on the body than involve such a degree of risk?

Patients have to consent to what’s done to them, and when they do they are told that there are risks involved, risks of something going wrong, even sometimes risk of death.

Luckily vaccines are not at that level of risk, and in fact are our best defense against very lethal diseases.

Humans make errors in healthcare sometimes, but humans are the only doctors and nurses we’ve got, you know?

Anyway, I’m not going to tell someone they shouldn’t go to the ER when their femur breaks just because doctors mess up sometimes.

The Bosses of all you well informed and well meaning medical professionals have a business model wherein my twin grandsons are an acceptable cost of doing business.

I’m not sure that keeping my own child from getting vaccines, and having him end up with polio or smallpox is an acceptable cost of soothing your anger.

I don’t know what happened to your grandsons. It sounds serious and I’m sorry for the anguish it causes you.

Deciding for yourself that vaccines are to blame, and then brushing off every doctor that tells you there’s no credible evidence of that just doesn’t seem to me like the right way to deal with it.

Honestly, y’all are acting like no one would get sick or injured if they just didn’t get vaccinated.

People can’t get a vaccine for every disease, and they can’t get inoculated against broken bones, or renal failure, or a stroke.

We don’t need to make kids sick to stay in a job.

While I may disagree with your flag on this post, flagging for disagreement on rewards is a proper use of the flag. Flagging people because you simply disagree with them however, is not. It's abuse. I will give you an opportunity to remove your flags from the comments, but if I return and you have not I will have to flag you for abuse.

It's not abuse @dreemit, you're entitled to flag without explanation. Abusive flagging is more like following someone around and flagging everything they do, or using your massive stake (which this guy doesn't have) to repeatedly remove pending rewards from posts.

@americaurusrex has like 28 SP, hardly making a dent 😂

For a second I had no idea what you were talking about.
Eh. He rubbed me the wrong way, honestly the past couple of days have really burnt me out, I can barely stand to read and watch what's going on. You'll see I haven't said a word through any of it today. But consider that what you're saying is true, I also have a right to my opinion don't I? And I could also flag him with the same logic, simply because I don't agree with anything he's saying.
But I don't have it in me to argue with you, truly.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled for me to agree with it.

THe logic has become incredibly confused in my opinion. It's okay for bernie to flag tiny accounts because he disagrees with them, but not okay for canadian-coconut? Although she did not actually threaten him, she was just explaining what could happen, if she were the type to do that. Do you really believe flags should be used because you disagree with someone? Because I think that it would become a huge mess on here in a hurry if people did that.

The logic is plain and simple. Flag how you please. Please may disagree but on you go.

I was commenting to provide a counter opinion on @canadian-coconut 's and your implication that there's a way things are done around here. I also wanted to call her up on a threat. But just because I haven't commented on @berniesander 's posts to admonish him doesn't mean I think it's okay for him to carry on as he does.

I think flags should be used however you want. And there's no way for someone else to stop you except to try to persuade you to change your mind by opening a dialogue (which in my experience is how things mostly shake out) or by flagging them into reconsidering.

And it already is a huge mess, but then so is every social network with any amount of freedom.

I don't presume that you support anything I've written here, but I'd like to thank you for articulating this point better than I could.

I'm simply providing the other point of view from someone who can't be dismissed as a noob 🙃

I think I’ve made clear several times that I feel what I have flagged is overvalued. The comments I have flagged, too, carry a message I don’t think warrants rewards.

Ironically, I have been told kind of implicitly that my flag will result in retaliation. You are free to flag for abuse if that’s what you think is happening.

Personally, I find a single flag, on one account’s post and a couple comments doesn’t quite rise to the level of abuse you describe.

Thank you for sharing your experience. Important to share this information.

Thank you for your comment.

I am so sorry you are going through this @marymg2014.
Thank you so much for sharing this story with us, I am very grateful because these stories need to be heard.

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Upvoting and Resteeming this. I'm sorry for your suffering.

THANK YOU!

You are very welcome, @marymg2014! This message needs to get out!

My heart goes out you Mary. And you have my support 100%. Thank you so much for sharing this. I chose not to vaccinate my two children and the ride has been bumpy since then, testing my relationships with my closest family members. Wish they would take the time to read your story. I will share it now on Facebook.

Thank you very much, I know what it is like to test relationships because of vaccines. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that my story would draw such levels of hatred and name calling. Those who have attacked me do not know the timeline of what transpired after the injection. They believe they know everything, and one thing I have learned in life is no one knows it all.

It is big business

Vaccines are just another of the huge deceptions we deal with... especially here in the United States..... the other huge deception is that marijuana is a drug and not a helpful herb and that we should be kept from using it...

The flu vaccine cannot give you allergies to something. As someone that has done experiments with vaccines, this post is absolutely incorrect. The flu vaccine is an attenuated (weakened) version of whichever influenza strain is most prominent that year and thus does nothing to you that getting sick with influenza wouldn't do on its own except because it is weakened it does not negatively impact your health by making you sick. They weaken the virus by putting it in chicken eggs and letting it reproduce until live viral count is low but viral capsules are numerous (the shell of the virus) and then they put the solution in glycerin (absolutely harmless) and freeze dry it. After that it is shipped to the country of use, water is added, and then they inject it into your arm. The immune system finds the antigens and makes antibodies, and after the production of antibodies has been made, your B-cells memorize the antigens on those viral capsules and if they ever encounter those antigens they produce the antibodies for them making your immune response much much faster (between 10 and 100 times) which also prevents you from being able to spread the virus yourself. You are sharing blatant lies and are putting people at risk by doing so.

I suppose they are all wrong too: American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology (ACAAI)https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814826

That is saying you are allergic to the vaccine, not that the vaccine causes an allergy to be created to random things. You should really read what you posted.

These photos are of the arm that I received the injection in, the reaction was almost immediate and worsened over the next 24 hours. A VAERS form was filled out before I even left work it was so bad. Withing less than two weeks I went from never having an allergy attack to the nightmare I am living today.

Yes, looks like you had an allergic reaction to the flu shot.

The flu shot didn’t make you allergic to...the flu shot...and it didn’t cause your other food allergies. Saying that it did just because your food allergies showed up not long after your vaccine is not sound evidence based thinking or practice.

The sun came up that day, maybe the sun caused your allergies. You rode in a car to the doctors office, maybe the car caused your allergies.

Saying the flu shot caused 100 food allergies sounds and is just as ridiculous a claim as the ones above.

Medical Textbook you should purchase http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1118663438.html
The flu shot compromised my immune system thus triggering severe food sensitivities. Good luck passing the nursing boards you will need it.
https://www.foodintol.com/latest-news/16-medical-research-news/5-inflammatory-disease-and-food-intolerance

That’s very nice self-diagnosis. When I take boards I will keep in mind how inappropriate self-diagnosis is. So thanks for that tip.

The truth is that your own physicians, the ones who’ve probably read an autoimmune textbook or two also aren’t going to back up the claim that a seasonal flu vaccine causes your immune system to misidentify food.

I’m gonna pass boards just fine, but not if I heed any of the content in this post, that’s for sure.

You know an allergic reaction is an unwarranted immune response to a stimulus? Such as a peanut allergy is an immune response to a protein found in peanuts... Just think about what you have said... The flu vaccine compromised your immune system giving you allergies...

BTW it was the "know-it-all's" who flunked

That’s kind of an ironic thing to say, when you’re diseminating patently false information that would totally cause students to do worse on boards if they heeded it.

"That is saying you are allergic to the vaccine, not that the vaccine causes an allergy to be created to random things."

Whoa, you have left out a number of clues here, what about adjuvants? preservatives? mercury? peanut oil? glyphosate? shelf life?, storage conditions? lax inspection at origin?, the list proliferates.

Fossilman, chlorine is toxic right? but table salt doesn't kill you... thats because different things can change biochemical chemical properties when apart of a molecule... They don't put pure mercury in vaccines. Anyways none of those things would cause an allergy

Strictly anecdotal, BUT, widespread peanut allergies appeared the same time as peanut oil was used in vaccines. Glyphosate? if I knew someone was injecting glyphosate in children I would serve them up an instant reckoning. Look at my posts, if you think teaching me about the safety of chlorine in sodium chloride is informative then go have a nap. you will feel better.

They don't use glyphosate in vaccines.... its a weed killer. And chlorine is safe in its ion form, and toxic in its atomic form. The reason is because atomic chlorine tends towards ionization and the best way to do that is with hydrogen (making hydrochloric acid) but when it is an ion it dissociates into water safely.

Downvoted you, because this is literally profiting from harming humanity, especially children who catch horrific viruses in places all over the world. You have food allergies? Your body is trying to tell you something. Dont mow the lawn with your teeth or groom your cat with your mouth.

Appeal to emotion, and appeal to ridicule do not make logical arguments.

If you google polio or smallpox, you can put a face to the dangers of being unvaccinated. The vaccine(s) didnt cause your immune response to certain foods, your body did. Allergies occur spontaneously and the mechanism is unknown. That's how the body works. Cancers also dont require anything to develop spontaneously. It just fucking happens sometimes. Your post is disinformation and FUD in regard to medicine.

Curious what is your area of medical specialty?

Recognizing morons. Every nurse gets good at it. Picked you out quick.

Wow, what a man. She asked a normal question, just the fact that you can only answer it with an insult, means you're full of shit. Any nurse would just have their answer ready. I feel sorry for the patients that have the luck to get you to take care of them.

Every day common folks like us haven’t been brainwashed by the system you were schooled in @scoobysnax, stop the gaslighting tactics.

Recognizing logical fallacy, like ad hominem attack, is one of the easiest ways to identify those who would rather pretend to be right, than help find solutions.

I hope you continue to believe the nonsense you are spewing. You deserve the results of it.

Sorry to hear this!! I’m not usually a supporter of many lawsuits but I hope you hired a good lawyer.

Unfortunately the Pharmaceutical industry is free from allliability you cannot sue them thanks to the government. and since they are free from liability they are busy making 300 more and Healthy People 2020 is going to MANDATE vaccines from cradle to grave. http://www.phrma.org/press-release/medicines-in-development-vaccines

I meant your former employer for pressuring you into getting vaccinated.

Even though I filed a VAERS form there is not one doctor that I have seen for my problem that will document that the cause was the flu shot. Nobody wants to lose their job.

What do they think the cause is if not the flu shot?

My arm blew up immediately when I got the flu shot with swelling and blisters. and approximately 2 weeks later I started with bizarre food allergies that cause swelling and severe spikes in my blood pressure. Too much to be a coincidence.

That would be my first thought too. But what did the doctors think the cause was?

Did you see this? ^^^

That looks and sounds really hard, I'm sorry you have to deal with this. While I don't agree with your conclusions I still recognize your pain here. I hope you find ways to live with it well or recover.

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You know if you are detoxing @marymg2014 you will go through a bunch of you illnesses symptoms as you purge toxins. I figure you already know this and might have said it in your article. But I thought I might mention it again.

Thanks for saying that, I am aware because I feel like a truck hit me most times. I am doing a complete whole body herbal cleanse and I am seeing a Chinese acupuncturist. I was going to write about but the BIG Whale at the top of the comments is now professing to be the police for Steemit and I don't think I will waste my time writing about my experience even though others my find it interesting.

Please don't waste any time or effort on the uber-trolls. They are not worth it.

Good advice!

@marymg2014, Ignore the whale, someday he will lose his power and your stories will still be here to help others searching for their truth.

Good advice!

I think Penn and Teller said it best about vaccines and the misinformation about the dangers to most people about them:

Penn and Teller argue that there is no link between childhood vaccinations and autism rates. Covers a controversial study claiming the link and an increase in autism awareness along with a broader definition being used around the same time.

Please educate yourselves and do your own research and study real scientific studies and evidence formed from peer reviewed studies.

You are a scammer.
I see that you have made multiple accounts that are variants on the names of exchanges like openledger-dex, and blocktrades.
You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to scam people out of their steem when they make innocent mistakes on spelling the name of their exchange.
I am therefore flagging this comment.

Shame does not effect psychopaths, nor does logic.

I chatted at you when you get a chance ;)

"Penn and Teller" is not research.

Not cool with all the scammers like @openledgerdex

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