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RE: My vegan roller-coaster ride. Part 2.

in #vegan7 years ago

Thanks for your comment clausewitz. I appreciate it.

I ate all the nuts, seeds, berries, veg, herbs, spices. I took the supplements. There are so many ex-vegans (from my era), who've tried this diet long term. A famous one is an ex-activist vegan -- Lierre Keith. She's on a lot of youtube vids. Worth looking into her. She has done irreparable damage to herself with the vegan diet.

The problem is that the vegan diet does not contain essential nutrients. Some people, I hear, anecdotally, can live quite well on this diet. We're all made differently, I suppose. Unfortunately, this diet wasn't for me. It made me so ill. Really really ill.

nothing good can come from meat or cheese that nature cant provide.

Meat and cheese are from nature too. They're completely natural :)

Humans can live on meat and animal products almost entirely. I'm including a pic if it'll let me, showing a culture that lives on raw meat and blood. They have virtually no disease.

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Sure meat and cheese is natural :) but the protein content is on a much much complex level and might be dangerous. Alzhemierns, taupathies , prion disease all origion from meat proteins.

There are unique diseases in meat eating populations and cannibalisitic populations, like Kuru. They are just surfacing now and have been hard to diagnose earlier!

Wierd that you coulden´t take up the nutritions from those food sources. We need amino acids not proteins and it is almost impossible for the body to digest some of the more complex proteins, which is the reason for these kind of diseases. They the fastest growing group of diseases!

We also know for sure that cheese and meat = heart attack, this is a no brainer the fats can´t be handled bu the circulatory system. Sure it is about life style as well but with identical life style the meat & cheese eater suffers higher risk.

I ve done biopsies on aortas from heart attack patients my self, the smell is unreal, disgusting. The aorta is black and necrotic with fibers growing out of it, sick to see, I cant touch animistic products any more!

Could it be something with your gut bacteria? They are really important for vegans!

Thanks for a nice reply :)

Kuru is very rare and caused by cannibalism – eating the brains of their dead relatives. I wouldn't suggest we eat humans unless we were in an emergency situation (zombie holocaust, plane crash in a remote location, stranded, etc.) :D

It's not weird that my body couldn't process the vegan diet. It's because I'm human. And Humans are not herbivores. More details in that link about our physiology and why our digestive system is not designed to subsist on vegetation.

The info you've got about meat, cheese, fat causing heart disease and Alzheimer's is really outdated and inaccurate. It's not based on actual scientific evidence. If you follow the history trail back to when it all started, you'll find Ancel Keys, a scientist who fudged the data to make them fit his hypothesis that fat causes heart disease. He simply omitted the data that didn't fit! Up-to-date research shows that sugar is likely one of the major bad guys. If you want, you can have a look at Cholesterol – it's not the bad guy. I go into a bit more depth there.

I'd be interested in reading the studies showing these 'fastest growing unique diseases' in meat-eating populations. I've not seen any. Can you share the links if you have them? I'd really appreciate it. Always wanting to learn more about these things.

Meat is easily digested. You will never find lumps of meat in your poo. But you will find lots of plant matter – sweetcorn, nuts, fibre.

Gut bacteria. I think you're onto something there. The vegan diet may have also disrupted my gut biome causing some extra problems there.

Thanks for your response.
Cheers
Anj x

Cholestrol is healthy, needed by many cell surfaces and brain cell functions to run smoothly.

The stroke by ruptures in blood vessels, are caused from pockets between the aorta walls, when they rupture they smell rotten. Its the phosphate from cheese and meats that cause necrotic, sick tissue formation here.

This is shining trough more and more with 2017s progresses on plaque diseases which I work professionally with @ a world leading medical institute.
The late age progression and time frame needed for the disease to fully express itself makes it likely that we just now are seeing the repercussions.

There are so much statistics and research done during 2017, why not start with CDC ? 5 million Alzheimer patients in USA alone. Unique for western world, affecting 1 / 50 and rising faaaaaaaaast!!

https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/publications/aag/alzheimers.htm

CDC again: almost a million heart failures a year USA.

https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

Theses statistics match so well against fast food spreading from the 70´s and forth, along with depletion of nutrition in soils. We eat sludge, that´s my professional opinion along with many others i work with!

Personally i think that it all comes down to the proteins expressed in suffering animals. The proteome changes totally in deperssed paitnents, this means a new phenotype at a cellular level. Proteins like heat shock 10 is usually seen at very high concentrations. These help cancer progression. Just saying proteins is just not proteins, they are 1 of 17,000 different molecules with different active functions.

Stay healthy, thanks for your insight full comments!

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Thanks for these links Clausewitz. I'm gonna read them today and get back to you later.

Cheers :D
Anj x

Researchers from the National Cancer Institute in Maryland tracked the eating habits of 536,000 men and women between the ages of 50 to 71 for 16 years.

It is the largest study so far to link the consumption of both processed and unprocessed red meat to an increase in death rates from a total of nine different diseases.

The results, published in the British Medical Journal, revealed that people who ate the most red meat were 26 percent more likely to die of nine diseases than those who consume the least.

Death sounds pretty severe : /