I'm sure if an advanced alien race decided to kill you with the same logic you're using, you'd have a pretty big problem with it, no? "I can kill one human and eat it for two years". Also, do you kill the cows yourself, or do you pay for someone else to do it for you? Also, do you eat dog, cat and other animals. If not, why?
You could also make the claim that eating 1-3 large humans a year would provide you with food for a number of years; that doesn't justify the act of taking another human's life.
Veganism isn't actually about 'the greatest amount of good' or 'reducing the overall amount of suffering' (those are socialist concepts). If that was the case, we would stop lions from eating zebras in the wild, seeing as though lions cause great suffering to other animals.
Veganism is about humans allowing other animals to live in freedom. It is about all sentient beings being free from slavery. There is nothing compassionate about taking the life of a cow, when you don't need to eat said cow.
The Golden Rule applies; if you would't want an advanced alien race to butcher you, don't butcher animals.
Edit: I just saw the video you posted where you eat cow brains in public, and threaten to call the police for assault. It's clear you have some mental issues, bro. You're not well.
Its clear you have mental delusion and instilled dogma when I give you direct undeniable evidence that the "experts" who brainwashed you deliberately lied yet you refuse to look at it.
Until you build up the free will to take 10 minutes out of your day to look at some evidence then you are not worth talking to.
if there is no compassion in taking the life of a cow for 600 meals then there is definitly no compassion in taking the life of thousands of smaller animals for 10 meals at most.
I didn't listen to any 'experts' when making the transition to veganism. I made the decision through my own philosophical understanding of self-ownership and freedom, something you clearly have no understanding of given your threat to 'call the police' and cry for state-protection the moment someone laid a finger on you.
You're not going to last very long here, @milkjar.
Funny how you missed the part where the vegans called the cops on me by lying and telling them I had a knife.
As someone so concerned with self ownership and freedom, you dont seem too concerned with the fact I had my property destroyed, and had people aggressively lay their hands on me. Simply for holding a sign and eating my lunch.
You arent concerned with freedom, you are concerned with pushing your toxic lies on the world. If freedom doesnt include the right to eat your lunch and hold a sign in public then I dont know what freedom is.
Enjoy your soy, one plant of which kills thousands of animals. Make sure to have a nice side of moral superiority along with it, thats the most delicious part.
Oh yeah, almost forgot
soyboy
https://dustinsview.com/all/beyond-vegetarian-one-mans-journey-from-tofu-to-tallow-in-search-of-the-moral-meal-interview/
Do you consider your life to be of the same worth as a cow, or a chicken? or your children's lives, if you have any?
@milkjar is raising a very valid point here that I think you need to take more time to consider.
Animals have coexisted with humans for thousands of years. You do not have to eat their flesh, for instance eggs are an extraordinary source of A,D,E, K2 and healthy brain fats. Butter from grass fed cows is an amazing source of nutrients that you cannot get from plant foods.
Most vegans rely on store bought produce, maybe you grow all f your own food somehow without the help of nutrients that animals provide to soils, but most vegans buy from giant farms that are destroying the planet faster than any animal industry. I don't agree with mono culture of any species, but small scale traditional farms are what has fed the world throughout history, and people are bringing back these techniques to combat mono culture corporate farms.
If you respond without even considering the above article by a former vegan, much like myself, I will not engage any further and leave you to your own devises. The whole point of posting articles is to engage in healthy discussion, it is obvious that from previous comments you are too sensitive to keep discussions healthy and meaningful.
I have no problem with freegans or people who eat road kill; the issue is whether you, as an individual, violated the life of another animal - not the meat eating itself.
"Most vegans buy from giant farms that are destroying the planet faster than any animal industry." Growing plant-based foods is not destroying the planet faster than any animal industry. Not only are hundreds of billions of animals reared and executed in the animal agriculture industry, but those animals are fed plants and grains. To breed, rear, feed and execute animals (hundreds of billions each year) is not as destructive as solely growing plants, for obvious reasons.
I have no problem with humans and animals living in symbiosis; in fact that's what I advocate. Some farmers in India live side by side with their cows and treat them with the utmost compassion. I have no problem with anyone drinking milk so long as the animal is treated with compassion and his consent is not being violated.
The author of that article now executes animals (unnecessary), when he could survive and thrive eating locally grown plant-based foods. To claim that you can 'love' an animal and then go on to take that animal's life against his will is a contradiction. There is no compassionate way to take the life of another animal that wants to live.
I'm no expert in farming, but there are a growing numbers of sustainable alternatives that don't involve the needless slaughter of animals. https://www.viva.org.uk/what-we-do/vegan-farming
The argument that 'one cow can feed me for years' is morally inconsistent with the golden rule. I ask you: If an advanced race of beings decided to rear human beings for food, with the same argument you just presented to me, would you be OK with it, or would you fight for your life? What if you were just the 'one human' the aliens wanted to kill. Would you offer yourself as a sacrifice?
The golden rule is the one consistent moral rule: Do not do to others what you would not want to be done to you. The cows that that man executed wanted to live. He killed them unnecessarily.
I will not be responding to milkjar because he is a notorious troll and thinks it's amusing to eat raw cow brains at vegan demonstrations. Fuck him.
Edit: Many of the points in that article were centred on personal health, and it's clear the author originally adopted a vegetarian diet for health reasons. If you want to put poison into your body, that's your choice. I have no real interest in the health side of things.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkBX2oGWOw
Do you protest wolves for eating their prey. Have you ever witnessed animal sacrifices in nature? I assure you our animals are very unconscious instantly they feel no pain, much less horrific than what a pack of wolves will do to a cow.
I've visited ecovillages around the country and for the most part, these villages are adopting aquaponics(fish agriculture), raising chickens, goats etc. As a means to survive, these communities have to incorporate some sort of animal husbandry to keep their plants growing, and to be sustainable. I've taken a permaculture course through regenerative.com..I love permies, and there are a lot of vegans in that community, but they are moving further and further away from veganism as a means of being more sustainable. There is insurmountable input associated with farming and harvesting perennial vegetable crops, and the labour it would take to feed a community would not be productive enough to feed that community. Coupled with the tooth decay, infertility, brain fog, anxiety, depression, etc etc etc that are associated with vegan and vegetarian diets.
I agree milkjar is a troll, I only visited her page for a moment, saw she is feminist, that's all I need to know LOL! Good luck with your veganism...ill be over here eating raw egg yolk raw milk kefir smoothies and raw butter on the daily to keep my higher functioning brain fed :) yes I believe I'm a higher functioning being than a cow, chicken, goat, etc. You haven't spent any time dealing with animals if you see yourself as equal to a chicken
Did you read the article? I already addressed the "but animals massacre and kill each other in the wild, why can't we do the same" argument. If you haven't read the article in full, why should I bother responding to your comments?
Human beings have moral agency and therefore it is incumbent upon us to live to a higher standard of ethics.
You kill animals unnecessarily, falsely assume I equate human life to animal life, and make unfounded claims about vegans and mental health and how you need to drink milk for brain health.
If you wouldn't want a higher race of beings to slaughter you for food, do not do it to the animals.
vegans dont have conversations, they have emotional outbursts