Man I was in their telegram group too and they were throwing around so much information and it was sooo confusing that I just left that group!!! Didn't know you were in there too haha!!
So wait WHAT!! If the pre sale has moved to feb 20th, when is the crowdsale? Last i spoke to one of the mods, this is the info I was given : The sale for whitelist on 31st jan and the crowdsale on 1st feb. So what's the new date for the crowdsale? Any word on it at all?
Btw, this has nothing to do about VICE, but what do you think of APPICS? I'm actually pretty excited about it and they have just announced their date for the ICO!! The reason I bring it up is, these 2, APPICS and VICE were kind of coming up around similar times, with similar concept of rewarding content (although ENTIRELY different stuff hahaha), but the APPICS team has been so much more organised I felt and their whitepaper had absolutely clear instruction about token sale with details and prices and bonuses about all the 5 rounds they'll have. And so far, they're maintained what they said.
New date for crowdsale is 20th