Is anyone else as frustrated as me with the way Vice has handled thier ICO token pre-sale? I have never seen more investors and Cryptocurrency enthusiasts upset at the way things are being changed on a daily basis over there. If you are experiencing similar issues as me please leave a comment.....maybe it's just me and I'm the MOMO here!
WIth Vice trying to start their own blockchain, and not doing a smart media token. I am wondering if they are in a little over their head. It seems very few people can actually program this stuff.
They are dumb for not doing a smart media token but the customer base is so big they can probably fall flat on thier face and the token will gone much higher than .05 usd
I won’t say I’m sad , I will say that I’m disappointed because I believed something different would take place than what is currently going on
Very needed video.
wow even you also donate your steem doller to the poor people.nice thats great.i saw your image.thank you very much…
I got to be honest with you guys. This is a terrible ICO, its a good idea but not with this project. It is basically a legal crowdfunding scam. Beware!!! The Token will NOT be trade-able outside of the VIT platform. Scam I'm sorry to say. Hope this helps someone.
Definitely bad execution. Not off to a good start. I've only participated in 1 ICO. I prefer to go for Airdrops and hardforks. Just feels safer for me personally. Good luck though...
Very unhappy
I read their website and whitepaper and it was clear that their team have almost no idea what they are doing. Their team seemed to lack anyone with any real technical knowledge and your experience would suggest that's the case. Good luck with it, you're braver than me for giving them any money whatsoever.
Sometimes bravery gets confused with stupidity.
Sometimes what looks like bravery isn't really that noble, it is just stupid, stupid, stupid; and Darwin shows up to make sure the score for rampant stupidity gets settled fairly with the universe.
Ouch. Rising sodium levels detected.
You may be right, of course!
@davebrewer 's comment should be emblazoned pretty much all over the place
Truth
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New to Steemit and just found your feed. Loving the content so far. I'm a huge Broncos fan and a noob in the Crypto world. Thanks for the fun and informative posts. Love the passion!!!
Thanks for watching. I make lots of Broncos videos during the season.
I saw that and I gotta say I love the chiefs beat downs you’re laying!!! Lol was a tough road this year but better days they are a coming back. Like I always tell people... you go your way... I go ELWAY!!!!
I did not invest in this one but we will get an airdrop as SP holders. About 1.5x the amount of SP you had at block 18,500,000. I do believe they will no longer create an SMT, I think they have forked the blockchain. Although who knows for sure....lots of things about this ICO are unclear. Nice video.
Thanks for checkIng it out. Do you think if they forked it may have something to do with SBD going crazy High?
No I don't think so. I don't see the SBD having any value on a fork that will use Vice tokens.
(I think exchanges from South Korea are the main reason for the pump, they are the ones that bought a lot according to articles I read on Steemit. Why they started buying SBD so much I don't know but I don't complain :) )
Probably so that they could create accounts that farm rewards? If done right with enough capital backing, wouldn't that be a wise financial decisions if you're willing to take the risk?
That would make extremely frustrated if I invested in VICE and they started pulling that back and forth stuff. To their benefit though I think some of these ICO's are way overwhelmed in the beginning of their launch. They are taking WAYYY to big of a bite that they can't handle!...Some people are saying the same thing about the ENVION ico, but I think everything is going very smoothly with ENVION. I already received my coins and I'm waiting for the 'Mobile Mining Units' to start going live and making us weekly dividend payments!
I'll be in Breck on feb7-11
Airdrop? This is interesting. How do I check on this?
https://vicetoken.com/static/Vice_Industry_Token_Whitepaper.pdf
Question about the airdrop...Does it matter if our steem is in form of SBD< Steem or steempower?
Steem and steem power, not sbd
Thanks! And when is this airdrop suppose to happen?
They haven't released that information yet.
Thanks my friend.
Give the rest of the kids zeros if they didnt get it :D Amen!! Lol -- Yeah I personally have not invested in vice coin but seems like a mess so far... and will be interesting to see what happens, But i do think it will be a profitable coin for sure
Thanks for supporting my blog Joe. I have been checking your stuff out a lot more. You are doing great work over here on Steemit educating others on how to be successful
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This is very disappointing. I hate to see you messed around with. You are very knowledgeable and do everything by the book. This also makes me worried about receiving the free air drop of Vice tokens for Steem holders. Seems like they could easily mess that up too. One good thing at least is that the extension will hopefully give you time to get setup properly.
I think this hits big cuz, for real. I am a little worried about the experience and execution of the players running the game
Vice doesn't have an MVP. It's not clearly laid out on the website or the white paper. I usually look for a big sign on the website that says "MVP." So I brought that up in telegram at one point. They said their mvp was essentially Steem because Vice Token is going to be a fork of Steem.
This brought up more questions for me because Steem only have about 300 million circulating supply of tokens. (I then took about a day and a half to research Steem and read it's White paper and blue paper). So if Vice is going to be forking from Steem and using STeem's blockchain tech as it's MVP "essentially," (they said "essentially" a lot,) then why so many more tokens?No good answer to that. @broncnutz
Well, i think they have a bigger token amount to adjust the distribution of wealth.
That's their distribution plan. They split the Blockchain, so the existing users have their steempower in vice token, but they want to finance their project so they are scaling up the amount of existing tokens to ensure tokens for ico and their own holdings. (But i think the percentage rate is pretty high.)
Correct me if I am wrong.
I have no issues with the token split.
Al igual que @broncnutz, me parece que los porcentajes están equilibrados. Nosotros, los Stemians, somos una parte importante de este sitio web, pero también debemos ser conscientes de que NO somos los creadores. Además, toda la visión de Stemian debería ser principalmente la coexistencia y la interacción entre los usuarios de Steemit.
im still real new to crypto and i havent started investing in in ICO's from everything i have been reading it seems a lot of ICO's have been falling short on what they promise it actually makes me nervous to invest in any new ICO
I'm on the same boat with @bitcoindad80 and have not been doing pre-ICO nor ICO.
I am also skeptical about anything out of China (I am not saying Vice is out of China)
Isnt there some other token that address the adult industry like SEX token?
Vice is being built on the Steem Blockchain....it's legit
But they are forking the blockchain right?
Who know right now.
If they are forking, means they are not related to STEEM, just that the consensus algo is the same, and they renamed STEEM to whatever tokens they want... hmm.. how will that benefit STEEM ?
Well i'm no expert but from what I understood, the tokens were created on the steem blockchain, but there are talks of them moving to the ethereum blockchain after the ICO, but no real info on it. So it might still be part of the steem ecosystem. But for the ICO they are only accepting payments in ETH which makes me think they are actually gonna fork. On the otherhand APPICS was vreated on the eth blockchain and are moving to the steemit ecosystem after the ICO and they are accepting payments in steem and SBD too.
thanks for the info... I didnt know Appics was on eth block chain and moving to steemit.. thats kind of a weird way of doing things.
Most of them are garbage and you definitely should stay away. This one could go big if the people behind it could get out thier own way.
yeah its a lot to take in to begin with i've already made a few bad decisions on investing, i did the bitconnect thing and lost a little there not nearly as much as some. i ws part of another investment company called coinearner lost a little there and im still part of Usi-tech we will so how this one goes but i have decided no more investment platforms either learn to trade myself or buy and hold in tech i think has a future
Stay away from the ponzi scams and invest in long term solid projects that you personally like and believe in
A $50k bet seems super high risk given their proven incapacity to handle the easiest launch tasks. If they can't even crawl, how will they walk? How can anyone ignore the red flags that they've proven incompetence, missed dates, poor communication, potential misleading, indecision, unfair treatment of responsible first adopters, etc., and wing it since it could be huge? I'd be scared to even be a part of this if this is how they operate before the project even truly begins. Seems like a black hole for your ETH, although I hope it works out. Maybe scale back some to reflect the increased risk.
It's a big bet but I didn't come to bunt.....I swing for the $5.00 seats and try to change the scoreboard cuz! I went 200k .....
WOW. You'll own your own baseball team at this rate. If you need a bullpen catcher or a solid knuckleballer, sign me up.
Imma buy the Broncos and then beat the Chiefs ass for the eternity of time.
agree absolutely, absolutely bad team
"Come on bruh"
That had me rolling! It sounds like some sketchy stuff is going on with it! I hope they get things figured out ASAP!
You have every right to be livid! I would be doing the same thing as you if I were in your situation!
I love your hat you're wearing FYI!
The Louisville Cardinals! Almost went there to play baseball but ended up at Florida Tech.
That's what I thought! Lamar Jackson has been my nightmare!
Florida Tech is in Melbourne isn't it? I am a north Florida boy!
It is in Melbourne. I used to love playing the Roadrunners....they got a sweet baseball field.
The roadrunners?! Was that a minor league team?
Wasent North Florida the roadrunners? They weren't in our conference but we played em a few times. Maybe I'm confused....it was 27 years ago for me cuz
Ohhhh the Osprey! Lol...I was close, they are almost the same bird.
Jeez that all sounds ridiculous what they've been doing. The one simple thing to follow with customer service is to be CONSISTENT with your message. They flip flopped like 10 times it seems like. That all sounds way too shady...
I'm not sure it's "shady" but it absolutely is bad execution and customer service
You tellem! They don't know who they are takin' ETH from OVAH HERE!
I didn't hit the ICO and I am glad I missed it from your experience.
Thanks for sharing bro.
I can't even tell Lefty about this......shovel, flashlight, bad of lime......Lefty don't play
Hahah that's what I was thinking. He would find someone there and there would be an outbreak of triple ring-shaped indents in foreheads.
I don't trust any ICOs. I'm sure a few of them are legit, but I'm not smart enough to separate wheat from chaff.
I'm sorry to hear about your circumstance, but you seem to be invested in a healthy, diverse portfolio of cryptos. Not to mention the fact that you're an established Steemit personality.
I hope this issue gets resolved quickly, but if it doesn't, then you have done a good thing by warning others, and you are in the perfect position to do so.
I think it's all gonna work out fine. The idea and business plan is awesome, the execution is dripping weak sauce...
Hey bro, I like your style. You clearly are used to investing in the real world. Do yourself a favor... stay away from this ICO garbage. 90% of these tokens dip in price two weeks after launch anyway. Remember, these are not IPOs with security regulations attached, it's just attack of the vaporware nowadays. And while I'm not saying with certainty that Vice is not going to deliver their utility, they are not legally beholden to their contributors, as in, you can't win a civil suit against an ICO entity. If some brave soul manages this task in the US successfully and sets precedent, it will outline the new benchmark by which these project developers will be held accountable. Oh and by the way, Vice's competitors are Sexcoin (SXC), and Spankchain (SPANK), and guess what they all have in common? No working platform yet.
I clearly understand the risk and i know exactly what I'm doing. I have no doubt this token will go much higher than.05 usd.
Well thanks for the heads up and your thoughts on this one. From reading the comments I'm not sure it would be something I'd want to get in on but to each their own. Sounds like they need to get it together. Shady at best with your experience. I'll pass brother but the info is much appreciated!
what is the situation at present
They did in fact receive my deposit and have now confirmed it. The crowd sale has been moved till 2-20-18
The learning curve is steep. Maybe there are too many people who want to join and they can't handle the traffic. I'm optimistic about this one.
Well said. It should be a great utility. You were sooo excited about it (and you still are). But the way the ICO has been handled is as deflating as a Tom Brady football.
If an investor doesn't know what a whitepaper is, that's a real momo. ....Candy O was your support....
I don't know about this one, I like the idea though and thanks for the warning.
I just started yesterday and this is super helpful! Love the energy!Thanks for the info! 🤙
Vice Token is a
SCAM!
buyer beware!....go into their telegram and interact with their "CEO" , "STUART" and see if you ever want to buy this scam token ever with the mouth on this tool. I asked questions and got banned! No Stuart you incompetent scam artist with your plant cryptoho who started out faking like she was just "another steemian" on Dlive turns out she is their FRIGGIN ADMIN OF THEIR TELEGRAM! LMAO! you can't make it up! Stuart you fukin prick you ANSWER TO ME not the other way around! STAY away or else ... mark this comment down... for future reference. 100 million dollars raised for what!?? FUK YOU STUART!
I guess after 11 months of opening my account on Steemit and finally talking her into checking out crypto, I shouldn't have recommended she start an account and join the community. Honestly, wow. Unbelievable. Also, would you like me to apologize for stumbling across a dlive blog a few days after they launched it and mentioned to her that it may be another beneficial outlet? The conspiracy theories are already old and quite ridiculous. She's a human being with every right to use this platform to express herself as anyone else has. Just my 2 cents, what do I know.
Usually when people misjudge you, its a reflection of themselves... I know who and what I am, I'm not trying to justify my existance anymore🤣
Usually? More like, more than likely;)
So when did you and "Stuart" decide to partner up ?
So now you're insinuating Stuart Duncan isn't real? 😂 Too much time on your hands, man. Honestly. Life is so much better when you worry about your own.
You actually think Stuart Duncan is a real name for this person ? LOL
Well being that I've met him, I'd have to say yes. Is btctips your real name?
See ya in the chat @broncnutz , you seem like a solid dude. I was already a follower, keep it up man!
I think calling it a "scam" at this stage is reckless talk. Stuart may not be the most professional, I agree because I have seen it myself. VIce is a SMT on the Steem blockchain. If they don't launch a web site then I think "scam" is a fair word. Just because you got sideways with Stuart definitely does not make Vice a Scam.
I've been part of so many scams regarding crypto I can smell them 500 miles away. This stuart character shouldn't be running anything. Specially his mouth if he knows what is best for him. You know how I know this is a scam ? They can't answer basic questions. All scams start out this way. If this is going sideways not sure what to say.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like too much for me to go through so I will sit this one out! Great idea for a platform though! I can see why you have put up this trap!
Man I hope it gets better. I would be freaking out. You have my support @broncnutz!
@broncnutz You have been very kind to me and I will not forget that. By the way I would be somewhat PISSED too if I did not get the confirm Email yet.
I am not a big fan of IOC's , but I know there are good projects out there. I feel it's a risk and I will be extremely cautious when it comes to risk taking.
Yes, we have to take risk in our life, but it should be a calculated risk.
Cheers!
Yeah, we all are upset and worried the market value changed day by day or you can say decreasing day by day.
I didn't started ICO yet and now I can proudly say I'm saved myself from this changing and tension.
Steem On such news for us!!!
If you want to be taken seriously I think everything should be organized and ready as by the promised ICO date . Otherwise it's a bit like showing up drunk to the big board meeting
Geez sounds like a cluster eff.
I am also a member but,their customer service is poor,and i am upset on how they change things on a daily basis.
How many ICOs have you been invested in now? I can't keep up with you bro.
I only have two. Vice and Envion
@broncnutz check out polyswarm as well. Generally I don’t do ICOs but that has some serious potential IMO.
i am still newto crypto and does not invested in ICO because i have low steam power.... kindly sureme how to invest in ICO. can you explain it to me.
i wanna know more about it can I?
Thanks :) :) :)
Watch some YouTube videos. It's not to be messed with unless your sure you know what your doIn and know how to move ethereum
I'm sorry that you are having to go through some difficulties. I hope the situation changes soon enough and thank you for letting us know :) May Allah bless you brother :)
ohhhhh thanx bro. Seriously last night I was thinking to invest in these bullshit ICO's. thanx God. now I am safe.
anyhow be patient. today you look like very angry. hahahhaha Calm down. everything will be ok soon.
Some of the ICO tokens are really sound ideas. I think this one is, they just need better execution.
yeah strongly agree with you dear. Are you investing soon in any more new ICOs or tokens? There are some I’m looking at but iffy on. but you know in some ICOs, unsold tokens become the property of the company, which in turn can lead to losses for investors. :/
there lot of ico who ask for ivestment and paying airdrop with ticket, but still worry in invest here due to market volatile.
Wow! Sounds like a five alarm alert on these guys. If they succeed it is because of the community and not their own efforts. Crazy.
I haven't pursued this one, but I feel your frustrations brother @broncnutz....don't tell Lefty....he may take some serious action!
they don't seem to be more serious that they should have been hope they take some input from the community
Very needed video.
wow even you also donate your steem doller to the poor people.nice thats great.i saw your image.thank you very much…
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Man I was in their telegram group too and they were throwing around so much information and it was sooo confusing that I just left that group!!! Didn't know you were in there too haha!!
So wait WHAT!! If the pre sale has moved to feb 20th, when is the crowdsale? Last i spoke to one of the mods, this is the info I was given : The sale for whitelist on 31st jan and the crowdsale on 1st feb. So what's the new date for the crowdsale? Any word on it at all?
Btw, this has nothing to do about VICE, but what do you think of APPICS? I'm actually pretty excited about it and they have just announced their date for the ICO!! The reason I bring it up is, these 2, APPICS and VICE were kind of coming up around similar times, with similar concept of rewarding content (although ENTIRELY different stuff hahaha), but the APPICS team has been so much more organised I felt and their whitepaper had absolutely clear instruction about token sale with details and prices and bonuses about all the 5 rounds they'll have. And so far, they're maintained what they said.
New date for crowdsale is 20th
execution really matters in such case even if someone has great idea that need to be escalate
The points you have given are sure is a big issue and i do agree they should not have extended the sale period it is not a way to deal properly with investors !
And yes you are a smart guy that kind of mistake from you is kind of impossible !
They really seems confused !
vice token sale is really a joke, I have all those stupid ico thing you have, and I have send 0.005 eth for reserved fee also, I think I will not invest this project, I can't find anything for investment, only porn content, another things about this project is bad
Hope you resolve everything to your satisfaction @broncnutz. You seem like one of the good guys. Just reading through your comments here on this post was a breath of fresh air. Keeping it real and putting crypto ICOs into terms we can all understand. Loved the part about swinging for the $5 seats and changing the scoreboard! Go big or go home. Good luck!
Damn, @broncnutz. I considered getting into a small position at ICO. But, I decided against it. I know there is supposed to be an airdrop of VICE to Steem holders. So, I figured it was probably a better strategy, for me, to just accumulate Steem as at least I know for sure what I'm getting. This has got to be frustrating AF.
I wouldn't let this deter you from buying some if that was your intentions.
White papers in sometimes are the script of the scam!
I feel like the bad ICO's are hurting the cryptospace as a whole, not saying they should stop but at least the companies/token should be more mature by the time the gets to ICO
Again awesome video by @broncnutz
Such a wonderful and interesting videograpy skill sir...
Actualy I'm new comer to in crypto world....I'm always try lwarn something with every posts...specialy about crypto...
Your video is clear...nicely done sir...
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Cheers~~~