Well in that case, sure. I did pick up on something using my ole noggin again, but I can't say I truly give a fuck. Based on this whole idea of yours that goes a little something like, "You're not included because you don't think the right way," I've realized the upvote/downvote thing is just superficial nonsense. You folks might think and promote this idea downvotes are nonexistent, but the reality is, the new downvote here is simply the act of not upvoting. There's no middle ground now. It's all, or nothing.
So two things that'll happen in the future guaranteed are:
There will be a lot of folks 'kissing ass' and attempting to think 'the right way' in order to get those votes.
For folks not receiving support the effect on the mind will be similar to the inner turmoil caused by being downvoted so some of the same drama will still occur.
People can tilt the playing field or move the goal posts, replace something with something else and so on, but that doesn't change the people.
So in this case, I suspect those being downvoted elsewhere then coming to this new tribe to complain about downvotes and mock any other system would then receive support since that's the 'right way' to think. One could even exploit this system and manipulate the people offering support simply by treating a select few around hive like shit, setting themselves up to get downvoted, then eventually earn through this tribe by developing a smear campaign they're not even serious about. What I'm saying is rather than exploiting a 'system', they could just fuck with your heads. All those rules in place to protect the reward pool can easily be bypassed provided the 'groupthink' within this tribe is predictable enough to be manipulated.
The new downvote is more like every post and comment you do gets nuked by a whale with a higher rep so you get to watch your rep go further down with every post you do, and one of those nice reps in the 70's is soon a thing of the past.
As is earning anything from your posts, because even if you get 200 upvotes and the whale doesn't have enough downvote power to wipe all your rewards, he just gets an entire curation trail to downvote you.
And then to be told that the problem is imaginary is a bit like shagging a sheep with no lube... And being the sheep...
Where were you, back in the day, when the entire concept of this second layer didn't exist. Where were you when it was mentioned this second layer concept was to be implemented in part to help eliminate reward disputes. Where were you when people realized once this second layer goes into effect and there a multiple tokens, if one is downvoted, the other tokens exist to counter those downvotes, naturally, resulting in people still being able to earn on Hive.
These tribes are offering everyone the ability to earn. So what's the problem? I think nearly everyone will agree, the situation you're in sucks. You're not being honest though when you say people can't earn on hive due to these downvotes.
You're in a situation where you can't earn hive due to circumstances beyond your control, but you can still earn on hive, and the damage in the reward department has been mitigated due to the systems in place, which you conveniently leave out when posing an argument.
Should one feel they deserve more than second layer tokens? Did we not take what we could get before those second layer tokens existed, happily? But maybe now that they exist you feel you deserve all, by default, perhaps? Maybe you feel it's not fair? Do you feel like you're losing out maybe? I don't know. All I know is for me, I see and endless stream of second layer tokens I'm not able to earn by default due to circumstances beyond my control, but you don't see me bitching.
My content doesn't fit into LEO for instance and I'd be downvoted if I placed it there hoping to earn. But that does not bother me one bit and I don't feel like I'm losing out. I don't play any of the play to earn games and I don't feel like I'm losing out. There are several folks around not able to produce art for instance so therefore can't make money minting and selling NFTs. I doubt they feel like they're being held back.
The opportunities here to earn are endless, with more on the way, but not everyone can earn from everything, all of the time. You're earning freely on Hive by simply using your stake within this new tribe and voting, correct?
And I didn't say you're imagining things, so once again I should remind you to stop putting words in my mouth.
Your refusal to acknowledge anything I'm trying to point out here would indicate a disconnect from reality though. You bounce around a lot. In some places you act tough and act like you don't care about the Hive token, proud for selling it off. In other places you act like it hurts your feelings you don't get any. But you could simply take your tribal earnings and covert them if you really wanted Hive, since that's an option as well. Also, it's worth mentioning, you were powering down and acting like you were on your way out before this steady downvote thing happened to you, if I remember correctly.
As for you reputation... that's only a number. But I realize some folks think it defines them.
We were having a serious argument, and now you are going on about rooting sheep and dry gays...
Are these serious issues?
No. You were having a serious argument. I, don't give a fuck. About anything.
Go on, give a little fuck...nobody will notice!
Well in that case, sure. I did pick up on something using my ole noggin again, but I can't say I truly give a fuck. Based on this whole idea of yours that goes a little something like, "You're not included because you don't think the right way," I've realized the upvote/downvote thing is just superficial nonsense. You folks might think and promote this idea downvotes are nonexistent, but the reality is, the new downvote here is simply the act of not upvoting. There's no middle ground now. It's all, or nothing.
So two things that'll happen in the future guaranteed are:
There will be a lot of folks 'kissing ass' and attempting to think 'the right way' in order to get those votes.
For folks not receiving support the effect on the mind will be similar to the inner turmoil caused by being downvoted so some of the same drama will still occur.
People can tilt the playing field or move the goal posts, replace something with something else and so on, but that doesn't change the people.
So in this case, I suspect those being downvoted elsewhere then coming to this new tribe to complain about downvotes and mock any other system would then receive support since that's the 'right way' to think. One could even exploit this system and manipulate the people offering support simply by treating a select few around hive like shit, setting themselves up to get downvoted, then eventually earn through this tribe by developing a smear campaign they're not even serious about. What I'm saying is rather than exploiting a 'system', they could just fuck with your heads. All those rules in place to protect the reward pool can easily be bypassed provided the 'groupthink' within this tribe is predictable enough to be manipulated.
So that's something to think about, I guess.
The new downvote is more like every post and comment you do gets nuked by a whale with a higher rep so you get to watch your rep go further down with every post you do, and one of those nice reps in the 70's is soon a thing of the past.
As is earning anything from your posts, because even if you get 200 upvotes and the whale doesn't have enough downvote power to wipe all your rewards, he just gets an entire curation trail to downvote you.
And then to be told that the problem is imaginary is a bit like shagging a sheep with no lube... And being the sheep...
Where were you, back in the day, when the entire concept of this second layer didn't exist. Where were you when it was mentioned this second layer concept was to be implemented in part to help eliminate reward disputes. Where were you when people realized once this second layer goes into effect and there a multiple tokens, if one is downvoted, the other tokens exist to counter those downvotes, naturally, resulting in people still being able to earn on Hive.
These tribes are offering everyone the ability to earn. So what's the problem? I think nearly everyone will agree, the situation you're in sucks. You're not being honest though when you say people can't earn on hive due to these downvotes.
You're in a situation where you can't earn hive due to circumstances beyond your control, but you can still earn on hive, and the damage in the reward department has been mitigated due to the systems in place, which you conveniently leave out when posing an argument.
Should one feel they deserve more than second layer tokens? Did we not take what we could get before those second layer tokens existed, happily? But maybe now that they exist you feel you deserve all, by default, perhaps? Maybe you feel it's not fair? Do you feel like you're losing out maybe? I don't know. All I know is for me, I see and endless stream of second layer tokens I'm not able to earn by default due to circumstances beyond my control, but you don't see me bitching.
My content doesn't fit into LEO for instance and I'd be downvoted if I placed it there hoping to earn. But that does not bother me one bit and I don't feel like I'm losing out. I don't play any of the play to earn games and I don't feel like I'm losing out. There are several folks around not able to produce art for instance so therefore can't make money minting and selling NFTs. I doubt they feel like they're being held back.
The opportunities here to earn are endless, with more on the way, but not everyone can earn from everything, all of the time. You're earning freely on Hive by simply using your stake within this new tribe and voting, correct?
And I didn't say you're imagining things, so once again I should remind you to stop putting words in my mouth.
Your refusal to acknowledge anything I'm trying to point out here would indicate a disconnect from reality though. You bounce around a lot. In some places you act tough and act like you don't care about the Hive token, proud for selling it off. In other places you act like it hurts your feelings you don't get any. But you could simply take your tribal earnings and covert them if you really wanted Hive, since that's an option as well. Also, it's worth mentioning, you were powering down and acting like you were on your way out before this steady downvote thing happened to you, if I remember correctly.
As for you reputation... that's only a number. But I realize some folks think it defines them.