So how does the Leo ad share work?
- Does it cover users who interact with that content on other front ends or only Leo?
- Are there ads shown on content posted from other front ends?
- Is that revenue still shared with the creator even though they didnt use Leo's front end?
If so: - How where and when did that creator give the consent to allow for the ads to be on their content if it shows on Leo's front end? If so then the creator does not own their content on Hive and it is just as bad as what we have now with standard 2.0 and there will be never be any growth on the platform.We will only continue to shrink.
These are the things that I have not heard anybody address. Advertising goes against the very core of Web3 principles and goals of what it is trying to achieve. Plain & simple.
Web3 is supposed to be doing things different. Instead we are resorting to the same old crap that got us into the current situation. We are literally painting a turd. No matter how fancy or "decentraized" we pretend to call it. It will still be a turd unless we do something different.
The ads only show up on leo and ad shares are given to the user who posts on leo threads when those threads are viewed within leo and the ad shows up. The ads are thin and I hardly notice them. shh dont tell the advertisers. You can reply to leo threads from any front end.
Anything posted on leo threads ends up in a leothread post where each thread is a comment to that post, so posting on threads will show up on other hive apps like peakd and eccency but it's so hard to find it's hardly relevant. I am not sure about ads on non-thread content, I think they are still working on that, the main focus of ads and revenue sharing was threads.
I find that leo tends to reject my ideas that I share with them initially but then implements them later on, either thinking it over a while or hearing the same thing from other people and letting that change their mind. I like that flexibility even though at times I wish I was recognized for my good ideas :-P
I am less absolutist than you. I feel like as long as we have choices and variety, I'm good. If there is something missing, someone should create it and people will use it if they want to use it. I don't really mind a little slit for an ad if it keeps the project stronger. There can be new better projects as more people move away from the social media giants into a wider variety of smaller projects. I am always looking for something that's better than before, not something that is perfect, cause I'll spend most of my life waiting for that 😉
You could always join blurt if you want....not really my thing but to each their own
Dont get me wrong. I am not against Leo's ads as long as they are only on Leo. But I will have a problem if someone posts to Leothreads through Ecency or someone posts through PeakD and uses a hashtag that causes it to show on Leo. Then ads are shown on that content and the ad revenue is not then shared with the person who posted it through Ecency. That is just taking advantage of a users content without consent. It is essentially theft of a creators content for profit. Thats wrong whether it's Web3 principles or not.
IMO they are playing with fire that could potentially burn both them and new users that they claim to be so interested in bringing in.
Thats what I am most concerned with and nobody can or are willing to address it.
Blurt is as boring as Steemit.
Blurt is whiny by design 😆 I like the idea that hive should move it’s energy to growing a good variety of front ends with different priorities and designs, although I think we need the success of 2-3 more apps to bring in more hive users before anything can really succeed. A project is gonna need a shit ton of money and resources unless they can rely on a growing user base
Absoluetly!