Did you read the other people's comments on this post and Jerry's two recent posts? Are they over-reacting too?
affordableI deal with stuck accounts on a daily basis, go to the #help channel on steemit.chat and see what goes on there, how many frustrated users show up daily and how we deal with them by giving them the best advice we can, in public and in private messages. Ask any of them, how has @drakos or @timcliff helped you recently.
So when I saw that $50 flashing in my face, I had to react accordingly, because it's an insult to my and other helping volunteers efforts, and it's an insult to the community.
"Did you read the other people's comments on this post and Jerry's two recent posts? Are they over-reacting too?"
Yeah, kinda. Nobody is giving the stupidity explanation due consideration.
Frankly, the fact that I had to go on MSP Waves to get people to realize that I write all the witness posts and I don't think Jerry even reads them (because I also proof-read them) was just staggering.
Nobody around here is developing an informed, dispassionate opinion based on the facts...except, like, me (harhar).
But again, I apparently am the only person who read the posts where it states over and over again the posts are my words.
"So when I saw that $50 flashing in my face, I had to react accordingly, because it's an insult to my and other helping volunteers efforts, and it's an insult to the community."
Are Rolex's watches an insult to Timex's watches?
If you prefer something more comparable...
Is Whole Foods' milk an insult to Wal-Mart's milk?
If I negotiate a contract for pay twice that of a similar coworker, is my job an insult to theirs?
Why are you guys so pissed off at a self-admitted reformed alcoholic who keeps going to AA not knowing some shit about the Steemit platform? Of course a guy like that is going to make some dumb mistakes, especially given we ALL do.
Is it not obvious what Jerry's value here would be (sign-ups?)
timex kind of an insult to rolex actually...
So you do speak?!!!
I thought you are a shadow bot!
Glad to know you are human
yea but i dont really like to
LOL!
That's ok if its good with you.
Thanks for the upvotes :)
Hah, a fair point, but in this case we're talking about totally different levels of quality and aesthetics. It's a poor analogy, to be fair.
I really don't care if he's AA or not, I wasn't even aware of it, and it's not even part of the issue. His personal life is his own, I'm not debating that. We all have our own sad stories, and it's not the key to redemption when someone messes up repeatedly. So throwing his AA story to get pity doesn't work on me. Marketers can manipulate people into selling their mother's soul if they wanted to.
Oh look, cute eyes, let's forgive him... NO!
"So throwing his AA story to get pity doesn't work on me."
It's not about pity. You brought that up, not me. It's about a rational explanation for what has happened leading to a determination of what he can offer the community.
"Marketers can manipulate people into selling their mother's soul if they wanted to."
Yes, the idea is Jerry might be able to do that for Steem in a way that increases adoption.
Do you see how he has pros and cons?
The only rational explanation I can see from this who thing, is that he is not a person to depend on when it comes to quality or trust!
What type of adoption he is increasing? More people to vote him and give him more money?
More spammers?
Even if you don't like to admit that he is scamming people out of their money (and its probably the fault of those people that are stupid enough or rich enough to get scammed). It is obvious that he is not doing things for steemit.
We all want to make money, but to go that far to make money is kinda sickening, especially when there are many other people who write better materials and are more honest, but they don't get the attention they deserve because of practices like this.
I am kinda awed by this whole thing. Never knew it turned out this way!
guess not...
$50, more like $85 + $13-25 tip he begged for at the end of the "checkout process".
I think the "suggested tip" was rolled into the $50, wasn't it?
It was 30 steem account creation fee + ~$14 suggested tip totalling approx. $50?
Could be wrong there.
It was 50 Steem, (14 Steem was a tip) but at the end of the check out he asked for another 10-20 Stem tip to make you "feel good". This was steem not SBD so another 15-50% more than SBD.
Yeah, well I certainly can't argue that those numbers aren't bad.
Tip? For what?
I am barely making any money in steem, I have 2 jobs in real life that barely pay my rent and still try to keep my page updated by writing at least 1 post per day. I also work as a writer for another group on steemit as a way of supporting each other and I haven't been paid a penny even, so far.
I certainly can't imagine how people (whales in particular) are supporting such outrageous behaviors.
Who can we trust in this case? Scary world indeed
"Tip? For what?"
Well, for the service. I'm not saying it is or is not justified, just explaining what appear to be the motivations.
"I am barely making any money in steem, I have 2 jobs in real life that barely pay my rent and still try to keep my page updated by writing at least 1 post per day. I also work as a writer for another group on steemit as a way of supporting each other and I haven't been paid a penny even, so far."
I'm afraid none of that has anything to do with what Jerry can or should charge for a hypothetical service. However, I understand the distaste completely.
"I certainly can't imagine how people (whales in particular) are supporting such outrageous behaviors."
Life runs on game theory, except when emotions make people irrational. Jerry is one of the best sources of curation rewards on the platform, so that is enough to get lots of autovotes.
"Who can we trust in this case? Scary world indeed"
Probably anyone not trying to tell you to trust them.
"Great men do not desire power, they have power thrust upon them." - Worf