Why isn’t this information pushed to the public to understand whom is actually behind the fix? This information should be trending IMO.
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Why isn’t this information pushed to the public to understand whom is actually behind the fix? This information should be trending IMO.
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Because Steemit is stagnified with hyperpowerful bidbots
because no one wants to curate manually anymore
or comprehend the concept of a gift economy.
Oh yeah, and also Team Steemit seems to prefer not releasing the "dirty details" on things. But technically people could have known about it if they went to the #witness channel on Steem.chat. A lot of us watched the developments in real time on the day the patch was found.
A lot of the whales were never interested in curating or blogging actually. The sooner the changing of the guard happens the better. Actually if we were really smart we’d come up with a way that the whales can earn ROI AND we fix the problems of Steem at the same time. If the dApps all adopt the built in activity points reward system much like the way Partiko does, I think we’d see different outcomes. We need a system that rewards people who comment, as it is in the commenting on someone else’s post that makes us feel feel something. I see my own comments in a sea of bot auto comments and this is the dead feeling I experience, which was not here before. A mix of bot and human comments is one thing but when I’m the only human commenter in dozens of posts well then the reward mechanism has failed.
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I see the Steem bidbots system being fixed with implementation of something like @steem-ua where it’s essentially a fine tuneable whitelisting.
Also agree with the dapps as something like @actifit will be paying out SMT tokens which is huge encouragement for physical activity nevermind commenting, now toss in a @1up hivemind system onto your dapp with that token and I think it would be a pretty impressive outcome!
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There was a time before when I perceived an element of the Gift economy in Steem. I no longer have that impression. I’d love to discuss this at some time and get your thoughts on this article I wrote about it: https://steemit.com/gifteconomy/@stellabelle/the-reason-you-don-t-understand-steemit-it-s-like-a-gift-economy-not-a-commodity-economy Mind you, when I wrote this there were no bidbots and everyone looked down on the idea of someone selling their votes. This path of Steem has a lot in common with the Tale of the Warm Fuzzies, and what’s happening with everyone wanting an immediate ROI instead of bestowing their votes onto others. We have a cancerous version that was never intended by the engineer behind Steem.
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Stella, I'd love to dive into that tomorrow after I've gotten some shut-eye and my brain's working properly :-) It will be fun to trade perspectives, since you got to see the early days. I've experienced some beautiful instances of giving on this platform, too— like rays of sun through a monsoon.
Yes of course, take your time.
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See no one really shares where to search for this information, thank you for the details!
I know all to well about the downfall of curation to bidbots this is why I love what Stella in doing with her contest!
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It's a complex situation, I don't blame people because I know they are primarily motivated by greed and maximum profit. But, I also know they can choose to move towards a gift economy. You don't have to blame anyone to see that Steemit is rather stagnant at the moment. I find the bots boring more than anything. Btw, I responded to your comment. In the future make sure you tag me at @d-pend because I don't always see these under replies.
I do think I contradict myself constantly on Steemit, because I'm usually brainstorming out loud. To be honest, after all these months—I still feel like I only understand a tiny fraction of the dynamics of how Steemit works (especially when you consider the psychological aspect, which continually baffles me.) If you don't mind continuing the conversation tomorrow when I'm more well-rested, I'd be happy to :-) In the meantime, give me some food for thought from your perspective if you like because I'm curious what you think about it.
I suspect you’re dead on. The masses often ruin their own caves by polluting it. I think that has happened.
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Many things should be trending that are not pushed up by bidbots....
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Yup it seems to be the only way to get noticed by even the real curators that are left, stand out from the see of crap or make friends with someone in power.
As for this whole bidbot argument, humans will be humans so I personally think something like this should have been accounted for but it is far to late to change things and inevitably unless somehow their is no ROI for investment then we will not see an end.
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Time to pay the bidbots lol
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I’ll never make it into trending at this rate.... ohh to bad 😏
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I have been on Steemit for a while now and I get that people are annoyed about the bots (me too) What I don't understand is that it's still called trending on any platform (@partiko, @busy, @steempeak,...) why not rename it to paid promotion like on any other social media does (and legally has to). That way you still have the option to promote your content. Remove the promoted tab and make it clear when a someone used a service with a badge or something. Also make a filter available where you can choose whether you want to see promoted content or not.
That works from the perspective of curation but does not address the problem of pool rewards rape relative to the use of the bots and ROI for investors, I think the fix needs to come with stipulations towards the use of the bots in the first place.
Why doesn’t the problem get directly addressed by those whom can make change? Because the majority of those in power support their use by using them!
I haven’t devised a complete solution by any means yet I do believe some correction at the developmental level is necessary. As of this moment I see bidbots as a way of appeasing the lazy whales who wish not to put in any effort towards the side of interaction to be able to get a ROI on their investments in the first place. We would need to start addressing the curation combined with a vote service relevant to the ROI for investors.
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