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RE: The HIVE FREEDOM PROXY: Over $1.7M Worth of Hive Witness Votes Available For Serious Free Speech Witnesses.

in #witness3 years ago

The goal was not to irritate but to challenge. And I figured nonames would have some interesting things to say if his comment became controversial and I think I have been proven correct.

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It just feels like caustic, biased and hypocritical attempts to bolster egos to me - but, hey, whatever floats your boat.

FWIW I've voted to rearrange the comment order a little bit. Sorry if voting nonames' comment diverted where you wanted this post's conversation to go.

Thanks ok, I appreciate it. :)

No man. I was bored. If you look closely you'll see I was only joking around at first but then slowly as things progressed was placed in a position to take things a little more seriously. Sure there's some sarcasm injected here and there but that's just how I am when I'm bored. I enjoy lighthearted banter, as do many others, but some do take it all a little too seriously. Certainly wasn't trying to impress anyone or make myself look good. If I cared about that kind of stuff I probably would have taken a different approach, and maybe put on a tie.

You and Pfunk are talking about the comment positioning. On my screen it was shoved down to the bottom as well. That kind of stuff truly doesn't bother me though. I'm using PeakD as well. So not sure what's happening there. It's not a big deal though. Just know some of my sarcastic quips here and there aren't meant to be taken seriously, at all. I have a Canadian sense of humor.

I'm not even offended by your display of arrogance here, downplaying my efforts, and treating my words/presence as nothing but noise. I actually appreciate the honesty.

Look, I don't know hardly anything about you. Today I have been informed that two people close to a friend of mine (brothers) have died shortly after receiving a COVID shot. I have also heard that another FOF's wife died immediately after too. To those not sharing my perspective on what is happening here, my posts seem like amusing content to prod and ridicule - but for many people this info is potentially life and death. What might seem like a bit of fun to you, does not feel that way to me.

I can't be expected to know what's happening in your private life in advance without prior knowledge, then tiptoe around your sensitivities.

I hope that wasn't an attempt to shame me into feeling guilty or look bad. We all have bad days. We've all lost someone. I've had bad days. I've lost people close to me. You've treated me like crap but I certainly won't be using my bad days and experience of losing loved one's as leverage in order to make you appear heinous. The times I was joking around are just that and at no point did I mean to come across as hateful. But you can seriously treat me like crap? That's a little unfair and I think you can do better.

I'm legit sorry to hear about your loss but it's hard to stomach the idea you'd use that as a way to make me look bad, so I truly hope that's not what's happening here.

Have a good day, or at least try.

I am not trying to make you look bad, I am just expressing to you the emotional reality of the situation. We CANNOT understand other people without knowing something of their emotions. Emotions make up about 50% of the information we hold and we have totally lost (for the most part) respect for this and intent to communicate on that level.
I just spent 9 months while helping a victim of serious assault (having borrowed a lot of money to do so) and hive was the only way i had to get income as I was not allowed to work in that country while I was there. I blogged every day for a while to expose heavily denied (yet obvious in the data) info about COVID and the shots etc. - I have worked in big pharma and amplified whistleblowers for 15+ years - I knew the topic inside out before COVID happened. The blogging helped me to survive and to support healing directly of someone who was in a very bad place.

To be told that this is all BS and I deserve to be nuked, while all around I see direct proof that what I have been saying is accurate - plus many highly accredited people agreeing with me - is disheartening and saddens me for the future of Hive. More than that, dealing with it takes up a lot of my time that I could be using more productively.

In general, I do not treat anyone 'negatively' unless I feel they have done so to me and need a reflection of that. I may have broken that goal/aim in your case, I actually don't remember the details. I apologise if that is the case, it is never my intention.

I never once said you're full of shit and deserve to be nuked though. I think you're just lumping me into a pile and expecting me to be like those who you feel act that way towards you. I suppose my only true grievance with the material here was basically what I attempted to explain. I've become so incredibly bored with platform politics, and that's what this post is. An internal memo making top dollar, like usual, while something like the best singer here today for instance not even being heard. Since when in the history of arts, entertainment and information distribution would an internal memo outperform something like a musical act or work of art? These platforms thrive when arts and entertainment takes center stage, yet in over five years, that sort of thing rarely gets a chance to shine, though that aspect is improving. So, when I feel like being constructive, I often suggest these types of content have their own place, since they don't mix well.

Also, when it comes to downvoting, I rarely use the damn things. For instance, here I disagree an internal memo should earn, all while you agree over valued posts can be downvoted, BUT, if I downvote this, you'll spin it around on me and act like I'm attempting to silence you. WHAT IF those folks downvoting you simply feel it's overrewarded. I don't think you'd accept that as a valid reason and carry on acting like your speech is being suppressed.

And for the record, I sat around here here various forms of communication, whether you like them or not, to help prove free speech is very welcome here. To be fair to this community, and to be completely honest with you, I feel your list of those who support freedom in this context is far too short. Maybe you wanted to narrow it down to witnesses you like but for the most part, the glaring majority of people here past present and future I can guarantee are proponents of free speech, freedom of expression, freedom of the arts, and so on. That is something thousands of people here take great pride in. Myself included.

I think you're just lumping me into a pile and expecting me to be like those who you feel act that way towards you.

This is a post about the emotive situation on hive at present and your tone in this context causes you to merge with those doing the nuking. I am not saying you are doing it or agreeing with it, but you are taking up a lot of mindspace in this area so at best it seems like derailment in some senses.

I've become so incredibly bored with platform politics, and that's what this post is.

Fair enough, it's understandable, but the nature of this platform is such that internal politics will continue to be a major issue until things evolve significantly (maybe). We either have to carve a space through such processes and stand a chance of greatness for all - or we dive back into the mediocrity of Web 2.0 (or we just don't get involved with online communication much at all).

An internal memo making top dollar, like usual, while something like the best singer here today for instance not even being heard.

I actually work with artists and make music - so I understand. At the same time the reason this post is high in the trending is because it is attempting to gather focus to make shifts that serve everyone, including the artists - in the long term. I assure you that this post will probably have zero rewards on it's 6th day.

if I downvote this, you'll spin it around on me and act like I'm attempting to silence you.

all of my posts are likely to be zeroed regardless of what you do - so while your downvote wouldn't make much difference, it would be logical to conclude that in the midst of such a situation - which you are aware of, a downvote would be a thumbs up to the general gist of nuking the account. much more downvotes are guaranteed on this post than you can add.

WHAT IF those folks downvoting you simply feel it's overrewarded. I don't think you'd accept that as a valid reason and carry on acting like your speech is being suppressed.

They have mostly made clear that the downvoting is due to disagreement over science and understanding of health. They claim the posts are 'dangerous' while presenting zero evidence. All this really says to the community is that Hive is not a place to share scientific info/data and understanding. Since science is literally the open quest for truth, this effectively says that hive is not a place for truth. This is a terrible image to present to the world. This is NOT about a disagreement over the level of rewards, first and foremost - that is just a convenient cover to spin to those who don't look closely enough. I appreciate that there isn't much public evidence to look at, because the downvoters are usually careful to say as little as possible to demonstrate any intent at all - but it exists.

I feel your list of those who support freedom in this context is far too short. Maybe you wanted to narrow it down to witnesses you like but for the most part, the glaring majority of people here past present and future I can guarantee are proponents of free speech,

As I explained, I don't know enough about all of the witnesses to have a full 30 votes at present. My standards for respect for freedom of speech and free will are higher than most peoples. I have studied this topic for a long time and I know that most people have not and so are not seeing things as I see them. Denial of free will is all around, dressed up and normalised as being something else. We have to track cause and effect right throughout complex systems to know what is really going on - this is what I have done for decades professionally and.. well, just constantly for as long as I can remember. Most have not really started in this.