Changing my outgoing witness votes

in #witness2 months ago

Since becoming a witness myself, I have been paying more attention to others running nodes on the platform and have found many new people to engage with and to support. But with only 30 votes, I am limited to who I can cast my vote upon for a witness.

It feels really good to go to vote for a smaller witness and bring them up a rank or two sometimes. I know they will notice an increase in blocks their way, and it really helps them out on the chain.

But early on Hive and before that, 5+ years ago. I used up all 30 of my votes. At the time I really did not know much about any of the witnesses below the top 20. Many in the top 20 I had no idea about as well. But I voted for who I recognized. And just filled in the rest, and many of those I learned later on about their great achievements.. so I left my vote with them.

Later on during of the time of the Steem / Hive split, I voted for all of the top 20 plus 10 outside of consensus to attempt to help with voting power to fend off those attacking the chain. I left many votes after that and did not change them, as those were some of the biggest innovators that came over to the new chain and helped make Hive what it is now.

Now, many years later there are so many interesting witnesses I want to support. But I have to unvote some witnesses I have supported for a very long time.

As I need to free up votes I am removing consensus witnesses.. the top 20. The way I see it is they all around earn the same amount, and my vote really does not affect their ranking much at all. With so many whale votes already going to many of the top 20, my vote is not going to move them up or down in rank. Unless someone is right on the edge of the top 20 and needs support.

So if you see me remove a vote from you, its not that I hate you, or think you did something wrong. Honestly I still speak greatly of almost all of the consensus witnesses, pointing out what each one has done to help Hive. And for many there on the top 20, there would be no Hive without them.

Besides removing my witness vote.. nothing else will change. I still plan on voting for proposals by many of the top 20 and supporting the authors in their posts. Many of them have great communities and I will keep curating them and looking for great content there. I use many of the dapps the top 20 run, and will keep using them and telling others how great they are.

But there are smaller witnesses that need votes, and I would really like to help out many of them. And as Hive grows I know even more will come online, so I will once again have to choose who I am picking with my 30 votes.

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A few years ago, when I didn't run my own node, I was voting for all Top20 witnesses as I didn't know anyone... In those days, I was thinking how 30 votes was too much and how we should have a maximum of 5 votes to cast...

Since then, I met a lot of "witnesses" in real life and engaged with many here on HIVE... Today, I'm in a similar position to you, if I would vote for all that I know, I would need 20-30 votes more, so I went in a similar direction... Mostly vote for witnesses out of Top20 as my vote means to them a lot more than to Top20...

I do believe that witnesses are a lot more than block producers and that's why it's important to support people who are engaging, curating, creating apps, gathering the community, leading the way, and showing by example...

Sounds like we had similar experiences, indeed once you find more people quickly that 30 votes is not enough.

So true, they deserve support as well.

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We almost need 50 votes! lol. Honestly as Hive grows it feels like more than 20 witnesses should be at the top and scale that to say 25 and then 30 depending on demands? I'd love to get a node up and running myself but constantly keep running into issues with trying to find out the correct command lines to put in to get it running.

Yeah I think that would make sense long term to expand how many outgoing votes are possible.

Oh nice, maybe I will write up a guide with all the other guides I used to get mine going. Maybe it will help you.

I would love that honestly I'd vote the heck out of it lol I'm sure others would find it very helpful as well and I feel it's much needed for Hive overall.

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This is fascinating. A couple of days ago I finally got round to sorting out 16 of my 30 witness votes and posting about it. You were the first witness vote I cast and I am very happy to support you.

However, in relation to the other 15 votes I cast the majority of those votes have not gone to the Top 20 witnesses, in fact only three have. I think what you're saying with this post is perfectly acceptable, admirable even.

As I have stated I think most witnesses do a great job around here. But democracy is part of the Hive experience and built into the governance structure. As you have pointed out the Top 20 witnesses are not in short supply of whale votes.

But many of those witnesses outside the Top 20 also need a voice and I am more than happy to do my bit to support those voices and raise their profiles.

Ah glad I got your vote. Yeah I think the 20 top will be doing just fine without my help on witness votes.

So true, glad that I can help them out.

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On what base do we have to vote for a witness?

You can look to see what they do for Hive. If you like a project then support their witness. It will influence the directions Hive takes.

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Under the witness tab in peakd.. Or you can vote on hive.blog as well.

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Greetings @solominer ,

Just the other day @peaceandmoney wrote an article with regard to witnesses....

https://peakd.com/hive/@peaceandmoney/witness-voting-declaration

We really do enjoy hearing from Witnesses...their views, their moves and what not. Thank you for this post and for serving as a witness.

Kind Regards,

Bleujay

Ah thanks for pointing out that post, glad others are reviewing who they are voting for as well.

Thank you @bleujay for your endorsement of my previous post, very kind of you.

My pleasure...^__^

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You prompted me to check my votes and I found a couple were inactive. You gained my vote as I like witnesses who post updates.

Oh nice, yeah sometimes witnesses just drop off.. @r0nd0n did that recently, no witness update posts about it so I decided to pull my vote.

Thanks for voting for me, I will do more updates as they come.

I see he plans to come back. We need to a good range of witnesses around the world to provide a stable network. I'm amazed by how small and low power a witness node can be. Nobody can say Hive is an energy hog.

BTW I'm getting around 3kW of solar at home right now. Maybe I should run some servers.

I didn't make a post because I didn't expect to be down this long. A car hit a pole near my house, left me without power for about 5 hours, which was one more hour than my UPS could handle. When power was restored, I tried getting back with my backups, but backups didn't work for some reason, so after a number of unsuccessful attempts I started from scratch.

Witness should be back in an hour or so.

I think it's fair enough.

I think so too

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Just do your best ! Stay blessed

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I have not used up my 30 votes, but then my stake is so tiny that it would probably make no difference.

it makes difference specially if you are voting in the bottom part of the table =P

Ah yeah, no worries.. just vote for who you know and save the rest.. that is completely fine.

Every bit counts when it comes to the lower rank witnesses.

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You have done well, putting this out here was such a great idea and so thoughtful of you to remember smaller witnesses, you rock!

So true.. gotta watch out for the smaller guys.

thanks

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It is an interesting strategy, and it gives more chances for people at the bottom to participate more in the decentralization working out =) That will motivate these people.

Yeah I think that is a good thing.. better to have more witnesses producing blocks, not less.

It is such a great idea, sir, more grace.

ah thanks very much

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How are you, dear friend @solominer
The work that witnesses do is very important, and it's good that you are evaluating your votes to support other witnesses who need more support
A very wise decision.
Have a beautiful night

Thanks, yeah I think it is important.. Hope you have a good one too.

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You have a great plan for the community. 😊😊

Yeah it should help out.

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I totally agree with this. I've been trying to move mine around too. I just get so worried that the bigger accounts might take offense. I've never actually seen them do that, but it's always in the back of my head. Last thing I need is getting flag hammered while I am trying to grow my account!

I doubt any witness would flag for losing your vote. Mind you, I know some of them notice any changes. They rely on our support, so they need to be nice. I just changed some votes, but some witnesses did not seem to be active any more. People need to check.

I need to keep an eye on the ones who are no longer active. I think it's more that they might stop voting me if they happen to be. I don't know of many that do, but just in case. I need to be aware of that.

I am not going to buy favours like that. I want people to vote on my stuff because they like it, but auto votes are a fact of life. I'll support some smaller witnesses just because they do cool stuff.

I don't think most of them do that, but it's never out of the realm of possibility for someone to change their mind when someone changes their witness votes.

I would be pretty shocked if one downvoted you for unvoting... At worst they may contact you asking you nicely why you unvoted.. just for their own feedback.

I finally found you. you have my vote.
I never knew I could vote for 30 witnesses, now I know. thanks.

Oh nice thank you.. hah yeah its quite a bit when you first find out.

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Many of my Witness votes goes to the ones below Top 20 especially to those who are engaged with the community.

It’s cool of you to be supporting some of them too 👍

Very nice, I need to find more myself to vote for.

Yeah I think it will help for sure.

When you decided on the person you wanted to spend every minute of your life with, you certainly did not go to the remaining 29 people to explain your decision.
Until the last day, life strings together tasks like a string of pearls that need to be mastered — and decisions need to be made. There will always be people who don't fully agree with the decisions you make. This is understandable, but not very dramatic because being a know-it-all is not very helpful in hindsight.
Just like in the presidential race: Only one candidate can win.

So true, not everyone will agree but in the end its my stake.

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Yes decentralization is one of the strengths of any blockchain.

Yep it sure is.

I love what you wrote. And I could not agree more. Not just because I started my own witness about 41 days ago, but I love your reasoning. That being said I hope you will take a look at my project and my witness and give me some consideration.

Thanks :)

Ah thank you, okay I will try to take a look when I have some time.

Thanks so much, also sent you a friend request on Discord in case you have questions :)
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I have given most of my witness votes to the top 20. There are too many witnesses who do not deserve to be in the lower ranks.

I think it is unfair to be able to vote 30 times for witnesses. A few whales will then have the power to determine all the witnesses. Witness selection would be a little more fair if everyone had 10 witness votes.

You have risen to rank 74. I hope you rise to the top 20 as soon as possible.

So true, glad to help out the smaller guys. Ah yeah I can see that reasoning.

Oh thanks, that would be nice one day. If I could just make it into the top 50 I would be a very happy witness as a long term goal.

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Ah thanks, well hope you can spin one up.

In the beginning I think I did something similar to what you did, I voted for the witnesses at the top too. Gradually, when I understood how Hive works better, I removed some votes and was more selective.

I wish you a great day!

Ah good others are doing the same thing. I think I am moving in the right direction.

Thanks, hope you do too

It's always good to review things from time to time. This reminds me to review the proposals I voted for too, I need to take a look at how they're doing.

Hello Mr. @solominer
I'm glad you're thinking of supporting the people who need the vote the most. Congratulations
I voted for your witness
Have a nice day

Ah nice, thanks for the vote. Yes I think so too.. and thanks hope you have a nice day too.

I can see you have been so busy about 👍

Hah yeah got lots going on.

I believe 30 votes is too many. Unless they are 3% each. Each account should get 100% they can give 100% to 1 person... 50% to 2.. 3% to 30.. but 30 votes at 100% is to much. I would definitely vote for that.

Oh interesting, that would be a different way of doing it. Not sure which one I like more..

having more static votes, less static votes or more of a dynamic system like you mentioned.

I think 30 is at least 25 to many

I will also have a look into this, as it sounds plausible.

Ah nice, hope you find some new witnesses to vote for.

Thank you and I will indeed have a look. Any suggestions will be welcome.
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Well, whale's votes has a lot to do in creating the top list. Nonetheless, we should play our little part to support others we see the potential in

Yes it is, and so true many do not know much about it at all.

So true, every vote counts.

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