EDIT - I want to apologize for my first comment/reply to you. I am not deleting it, you can still reference the original comment below.
I want to apologize for two reasons:
- First, I invited discussion in the comments. I specifically called for discussion in the comments in my post. I should have thanked you for commenting here, not given you a snarky comment with a personal attack (I am particularly sorry for the "guys like you" line.
- Second, I broke a personal rule here. I try never to take an action in anger. I try to live this way in my personal life and even moreso in my public, online life. I totally failed to live up to my own standards here. I was pissed off at you and your responses after reading the thread of your conversation with @limabeing, and I responded in anger. I have had some time to calm down and I can honestly say I am sorry. I hope youaccept my apology. I am happy to have a discussion with you here and it is never my intention to try to silence one side in a debate. I do not support censorship. I am glad you are commenting here.
Cheers - Carl
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I appreciate you showing up to prove (not that we needed any more proof) that what I am saying is true :) Guys like you are exactly why we need more guys like me :) Much love - Carl
Please give yourself a break Carl. Its very hard not to be defensive when we created beautiful stuff and someone is so hateful and dismissive. He said a lot of hurtful things, mostly about you and your post. Its okay to be angry when someone hurts you on purpose and seemingly only for the sake of being right. Neither of us owe him an explanation. I only feel sorry that i even tried. I knew it wouldn't go anywhere. The woman in the video he posted helps create attotudes like his and I'm not sure why. Because she thinks its fun to be little people and vaguely attempt to discredit actual reserch when all she did was read and google?
Everyone can change and be open but not everyone will. Society can change whether they do or not. We can build whether he likes it or not. We can post this data whether he thinks its "stupid" rather than complex in ways he may never understand. We can support and cheer each other. And he can continue to hate. You are not silencing him by expressing you pain and hurt in a less than perfect way. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
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I can still apologize for commenting in anger. I didn't live up to the standards that I hold for myself. I felt bad about it.
Okay so now you can forgive yourself? Because i dont think you should have such extreme standards. It was a troubling debate that i've just had to stop engaging. 🤷♀️
More bullshit! I specifically stated more then once in that discussion that my issue isn't with him in any way, but with skewed information. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt as well, but obviously that was a mistake. If facts are hurtful, well... tough shit!
@carlgnash 🤷♀️ Narcissism is strong in this one.
". You don't have to explain shit, they can speak for themselves. You're the only one robbing them of agency."
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"And I don't give a shit if he was called to do shit or not."
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"Maybe you should listen to an actual sane feminist here rather than spout nonsense."
That ones a personal dig for me.thnx. I will consider your kind suggestion.
you consider his post and the links and his being a male feminist garbage. I think you edited that.
You did say that you have issues with women but i think you meant yiu dont. Yiu have issues with male feminists and feminists. This is tainting the entire discussion.
Rather than respect what i know, you assume that i am stupid/naive and that you are more educated.
These are attacks. This is not open and thoughtful debate. This is not showing respect. This is not heloing anyone but your own ego.
Lol, so pointing out where your logic is flawed is not helping anyone? Only if you refuse to see reason. And no, I have no issue with women as a whole. But I won't prop women up as a whole either. Some are nice people, some are cunts, same with any other group. I don't stand for any group, I stand by principles based in reality and facts. Your study is flawed as fuck, yet you tout it as gospel, hence yes, you are, at the very least, naive.
Very commendable. I don't think your original statement was out of line, but I appreciate seeing someone holding themselves up to their own standards. Hopefully, I can do the same.
Don't apologize! Say what you want to say! If you read that whole thread, then you realize that my issue is with false statistics being pushed to paint a view of the world that does not exist... at least in the west.
"It doesn't exist" @calrgnash @frontforwardenemy this is not the only person who thinks this way on steemit. They post in #feminism regularly . Not only do they disrespect my views as a feminist but be little me as a woman of agency. They constantly post hate and belittle feminists but as you can see even when im trying to be patient its fuck you fuck that etc etc. zero respect.
Keep tagging! And maybe you should check what I post before spouting even more nonsense.
And damn straight I'll belittle feminists. They're no different than any other fanatics. And if facts are hate, then damn straight I'm hateful!
PS: Respect is earned, not given.