For all Climate Change deniers | Fuer AFD Anhaenger [Eng&Ger]

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Most common arguments I hear from Climate Change deniers is that the climate is too complicated to predict, but we see an increase of global temperature despite all other factors trying to counteract climate change. Milancovitch cycles (sun cycle, axial tilt ect.) alone should cause the global temperatures to decrease, but they don't. You cannot blame anymore the mylancovitch cycle as an excuse for increased global average temperature. The data is open source and verifiable, hence there is no hoax. Over 95% of Scientists AND of papers that express a conclusion about Climate Change verify that it is happening.


Die meisten argumente die ich von Klimawandelverleugner hoere, ist das das Klima zu kompliziert ist und zu schwer um vorhersagungen zu machen. Wiederum sehen wir ein anstieg globaler Temperatur, obwohl der Milancovitchzyklus (Sonnenzyklus und die Achse von der Erde) aleine dazu fueren sollten das die Erde abkuehlt. Die Schuld des Klimawandels kann man nicht mehr auf den Milancovitchzyklus schieben. Die Daten sind oeffentlich zugaenglich, also ist da keine Konspiration. Ueber 95% der Wissenschaftler UND der Wissenschaftliche Papers die eine Aussage ueber Klimawandel machen stimmen den so zu.

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Why are Climate Deniers Denying Geoengineering?

"The first of the three Milankovitch Cycles is the Earth's eccentricity. Eccentricity is, simply, the shape of the Earth's orbit around the Sun. This constantly fluctuating, orbital shape ranges between more and less elliptical (0 to 5% ellipticity) on a cycle of about 100,000 years." source

"Axial tilt, the second of the three Milankovitch Cycles, is the inclination of the Earth's axis in relation to its plane of orbit around the Sun. Oscillations in the degree of Earth's axial tilt occur on a periodicity of 41,000 years from 21.5 to 24.5 degrees." source

"The third and final of the Milankovitch Cycles is Earth's precession. Precession is the Earth's slow wobble as it spins on axis. This wobbling of the Earth on its axis can be likened to a top running down, and beginning to wobble back and forth on its axis. The precession of Earth wobbles from pointing at Polaris (North Star) to pointing at the star Vega. When this shift to the axis pointing at Vega occurs, Vega would then be considered the North Star. This top-like wobble, or precession, has a periodicity of 23,000 years." source

The shortest of the Milankovitch Cycles is 23,000 years. We only have data going back to 1880, or 139 years ago. That said, how can you portend to have any clue what a normal rising and falling of temperatures is when you are missing 99.4% of the data? If there is any significant anthropogenic global warming, perhaps it's the only thing saving us from another ice age.

shortest cycle is the solar cycle of 11 years or so. plus it has a longer cycle and we are hitting rock bottom on that one by 2020 or so (grand miniimum). we do have longer data though from ice core drilling in greenland and antarctic and stuff.

also animals are not likely to adapt the change if it happens so quickly. we heading to mass extinction here if we increase temperature too fast. plus the more of the ice mets the faster the temperature actually increases. after 1.5 degrees increase we will find it impossible to reverse the change. also means more refugees since a lot of africa asia and south america will be inhospitable. starving because of less farmable land and more people in one place. climate change means also more disasters, more droughts and more floods.

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The dinosaurs died from asteroid...

Younger dryas meteor killed off the north American continent. Also had it spread across Europe.

Lots of questions from prehistory we are just getting into!

Besides... One comet... Or shower. One asteroid...

Back to caves we go! One volcano and here comes ice age!

Nukes? Younger dryas meteor dropped more wild than we have nuclear weapons.

Hang on snow and ski stocks! Invest in parkas!

if it interests you, i believe they are currently experimeting asteroid capture methods. either for savinng the planet or for space mining. luxenburg already passed laws for space mining.

Fuck yeah I'd asteroid mine! Know how. Much gold. Could be in one? Sweet!

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yea sure we are in a 3rd generation solar system after all. everything you can touch (except hydrogen) is basically pieces of a dead star. some materials get within the violent explosions turned into heavier metals like gold or platinum, and some of these chunks get caught in our solar system. :)

Meteor chunks and of course gold nuggets are regularly found in Australia! And south America...

Yep I love treasure hunting for sure!

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i guess this astroid can be worth something like 500 billion in platinum

Well Pge or platinum element group... Let's just say some of those Pge's are worth more than platinum. Party! Besides anything else in there... We have just encountered the tip of the elements so far there are definitely more out there.

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Unflagged your comments. That's
a sad way to disagree with people.

very biblical quote tht pdf. I dont believe it will pass them by its self.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
the dalton minimum was a grand minimum that caused a bit if famine in the 1800s where the summer was very cold and crops rottet ont he fields and we heading to a grand minimum currently aswell.the shortercycles on the graph have a period of about 11 years.
thankyou for unflagging my comments btw :)

Solar cycle
The solar cycle or solar magnetic activity cycle is the nearly periodic 11-year change in the Sun's activity (including changes in the levels of solar radiation and ejection of solar material) and appearance (changes in the number and size of sunspots, flares, and other manifestations).
They have been observed (by changes in the Sun's appearance and by changes seen on Earth, such as auroras) for centuries.
The changes on the Sun cause effects in space, in the atmosphere, and on Earth's surface. While it is the dominant variable in solar activity, aperiodic fluctuations also occur.

I wouldn’t let the bible talk turn you off though. Chan gets into the science of the great cataclysms that seem to destroy humanity time and time again. It has something to do with a shift of the earth which happens somewhere between a quarter to a half of a day. The rare and violent shift happens so fast that most life cannot survive the process. Thomas’ theory is the earth shifts rapidly, but; the atmosphere does not. So if you’ve ever been in a car that’s driving, let’s say it’s driving 128 km/h. Inside of the car, everything is serene, yet, if you roll down the window, and put your hand out into the atmosphere, you have a very violent wind that would blow you over or make it hard to breathe if your head was out the window. His theory is that we’re all going to die — and when we do, God and Jesus will join the ranks of the mythological gods of old. The people who survive the next great cataclysm will start their own religions, or do the best they can to pass what they know down to the next generation. Can you imagine something simple like trying to explain an airplane to a small child who has never used television, been on the internet, or heard a radio? It's not a very comfortable or promising theory, but it makes more logical sense than religion to me anyhow. I was happy to remove those flags for you, and thanks for sharing the information about the sun cycles. Not sure how it ties into the Milankovitch cycles, but I'm sure there is something to be gleaned from it.

solar spots and milankovitch cycle are all predictable cycles that determine how much sunlight reaches where on earth. greenhouse gasses determine how much heat energy we send back and ice or albido how much we reflect back. I tried to research about a rapid polar shift but could not find a rapid one. just a degree every million years. i looked into this interesting paper that had managed to look at the moving poles over serveral million years. still with their rapid movement of poles was described again in degrees per millions of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal#Effects_on_biosphere
geomagnetic reversal takes place over 200 years atleast. so far im only seeing that there will be more radiation and charged particles will not be trapped in the magnetic field during the magnetopause and i also read there will be more vulcanic activity. it may also damage our electrical equipment.
i couldnt find about thomas theory?

Chan Thomas has a unique take on Catastrophism. His ideas are similar to or derived from Charles Hapgood's crust displacement hypothesis. It appears Einstein lent credence to the idea, as he wrote the forward to Hapgood's book entitled The Earth's Shifting Crust, published in 1958.

True or not, it would seem to make sense of some things that modern theories are unable to address. Like for example, the flash froze woolly mammoth who died suddenly while eating buttercups, a flower that would not have grown in a frozen climate.

The CIA classified Chan's book after it's publication. The link I sent you is only the recently declassified portions. I'm not sure what he stumbled upon that was so sensitive, but it appears it was something verboten.

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The hoax is the fact that they wont admit that their engineering is the most major cause. Sourcing the same nasa alone that denied the ion drive before admitting it? That is like being for the Iraq war before being against it like the hildabeast.

Dane Wiggington has changed my thoughts again

The most major problem is not carbon dioxide a life giving gas that follows changes in temperatures. Why do their charts ignore water vapor?

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But let's just powder aluminum and spray it?

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Worse than that. I just learned about magellons disease from Ted Broer.

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Fuck you... Totally... Absolutely total and complete Fucker! Fuck Fuck Fuck....

Asshole...

Shit that's pretty much most of. My complaint list. And definitely Herr in Portland I see the massive spraying.

And yeah blamed the weed...

Family don't smoke and it's not the weed...

Fuck.

Damn matrix and instaexpert plug in...

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What's that? Google?... Expert me...

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do u expect a big discussion to come from flagging? simply google it, higher temperature of air will let more water vapor to be held in the air made possible by other greenhouse gasses in the first place. and if you dont like the terrabytes of satalyte data from nasa why not look then at the satalite data from ESA? infact if you wanna google in a sustainable way use ecosia.org instead, its solar powered and they plant trees from the profits. using a search engine is though more difficult than simply flagging inconvenient facts on steemit im not sure if you can handle that.

Use a controled search to find truth. Listen to yourself. If planting trees are so important why are the elders being cut down in england for 5g? Either way do you support taxing the activity of people? Carbon credit fascists? At least this article caused me to read a new article from Dane and can not deny the temperature increase. While I have heard that many temperature measurements are bundled in hot areas I also know that the destruction of this planet is intentional.

You didnt take the time to even reference the only refuting source I provided yet told me to look for mainstream sources. Sounds like my "downvote" (they are no longer called flags by the steemit fascists). At least I would win the bet that you would blindly trust the JewYorkTimes

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about paragraph 1: a lot of countries already implemented a carbon tax and it works great. it lowers the carbon emission and it hits the highest industries like concrete production or coal powerplants. negative externalities should be taxed thats basic economics theory. then the product reflects the real price on the society while people who live an enviromentaly councious way get subsidized and money back. its also possible to live low emission like biking, taking the bus and using earth heating. 5G is needed for selfdriving cars, meaning trucks on the road will drive more efficiently and less poluting. in sweden they are currently testing self driving trucks. the satalites measuring global average should ofcourse have a polar orbit meaning they take measurements all over the planet not just the hot areas.

second paragraph: the article is about the earth being in a cooling state, its form 2016. you can see from the graph it stopped at some point until we pumped that bit more CO2 and methane in the atmosphere to make it continue go up again. even though the solar cycle and axial tilt would usually cause cooling, the fact that less ice reflects sunlight and more greenhouse gasses makes the earth still heat up as data can show. i dont see how you can still deny the data? and if u think the 'downvote' system is fascist then why would you use it. does it help you make your point more 'convincing'?

You have a problem with reading. I refered to the corporation as fascistic. They control the rules and change them to benefit themselves.

NOAA has been caught lying and are therefor no longer credible. If laws reduce emissions then why permit some countries to polute all they want? What is hempcrete that absorbs CO2. You say nothing about how more CO2 leads to more plant growth. Dont care about stratespheric aerosol injection? Oh that is right I bet you believe the contrail lie. The worst lie is the one birthed by omission.

If you want to follow basic economic theory then why tax income? If there was sound money then people would have economic weight to control fascists all over the world.

It is easier to create a fool than it is to correct one. ~Mark Twain.

Sea level stable by your nasa

You mean this satalite data?

The great global warming swindle is a good documentary. https://www.climate.news/2018-02-22-noaa-caught-again-altering-temperature-data-to-exaggerate-global-warming-hoax.html

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Hemp for the win! Purple sticky punch for all! Save the planet and grow weed!

its a product tax not income tax. it taxes the consumption of a product not the income its self. in this case oil.

its not like europe is ok with trump polluting all he wants, its just that he is an uncontrollable moron. china is doing quite well moving to e-busses, they just need more renewable energy powerplants. developing countries will need support to grow sustainable. DW has an entire series about eco-africa how innovative solutions in africa, plus they mostly power their country with hydro/solar power. what about stratospheric aerosol injection? are you talking about chemtrails? I agree with you though on the mark twain quote. indonesia is btw moving its capital due to rising sea levels and satalite data are usually on an ftp server or sftp server (atleast for ESA) compressed in netcdf files (i hate that data format) not some kind of sketchy blog written by some whacko.

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All that eco africa garbage and lies about budding economies. China was beneficiary to the outsourcing and deconstruction of American manufacturing. Finally, America has a president that least appears to fight for Nationalism even if it is to mostly benefit Isra-hell.

You call Mike Adams a whacko. He has build a world renown lab that tests for glyphosate in almost everything. You obviously didnt read any of the articles because you would have seen the links to the cabalist institutions you support.

Ooooo a new dataformat for me to learn. Not like they are trying to move so fast that people can't discover the half truths or anything.

Here is a cool new video I just saw showing how the beloved theif Einstein was wrong. https://youtu.be/vzVqp4iTlbg

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