The post that you are about to read may potentially shake up the entire cryptosphere.
Before I get into any explanations, I'd rather let the pictures speak for themselves first. All I will say to give you some pre-text is that I was invited into BravadoGroup by CryptoGag around the end of March (approximately March 31st) on a 'trial' basis.
Before I was actually accepted into the Discord chat, I was invited into a Telegram channel. In there, I observed some very disturbing posts that I documented. Please read below:
This is a picture of the screenshot posted in the chat ^^
Now, that's just PART ONE of the messages that they sent. This was like the warm-up conversation.
Remember the link that crypto_signals posted in there? That's where they really started talking. I took screenshots of everything said in there too.
Here's the screenshot where that link was provided:
I went in that chat, and found out WAY more information from there as well:
The screenshots that I'm about to post are from the top of that chat to the bottom
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Now, here are screenshots from the 'investment pool Google Docs that you see above ^^^
Now, back to the conversation:
Now, here are the screenshots of everyone that was in this Telegram channel discussing these things:
From the posts above, I don't think much needs to be said. It'll probably take me several more hours to unpack who is exactly affiliated with what in that group and what the implications are, but there are a long list of names that you all should check out.
Also, I've already contacted the SEC, FBI and other federal authorities regarding their activities on the market. I have all intentions of making an in-person visit either today (April 25th, 2018) or tomorrow to deliver all of these screenshots.
More than likely, the response to this article will be an attempted character assasination of some sort on me. However, that changes nothing about the character of these messages. I could be Adolf Hitler, and these messages are what they are.
They'll more than likely state, 'Oh, he just has an axe to grind with us'. Yes, I do. They're a bunch of frauds that tried to defame my brand and name for 'fake followers' and other things. Not only that, I can't stand this type of shit in the space. These are some of the biggest names in crypto and they are manipulating a slew of things that you see around you.
It's time that we finally get this type of trash out of our cryptocurrency community once and for all. I'll be posting a follow-up response to this post to explain the situation in greater detail in a few hours. Until now, I'll leave this all for you to sort through and unpack.
My Twitter = @CryptoMedicated
I'm not here to hide at all.
Great freaking work brother. I run a channel as well and one of the main things people say whenever I mention a coin is that I am shilling to dump on people.
Truth be told, this kind of activity hurts everyone and would never take part. I feel if you have a platform to influence it shoube used to educate and not molest those who look up to you .
Great job boss
Which channel do you run? I would like to check your content and maybe you could check mine.
Crypto2crypto
Oh no the TG is is now private invite only. I can send you a link. I can’t post here as we would get flooded
Sure, go ahead. Find me on our telegram there.
THis one right? https://t.me/crypto2crypto
Check also ours: https://t.me/cryptomedics
We want to believe it stands out from all those TG channels, at least thats what people tell us.
Can you send me a link for your private TG group please ?
I am @coco357i on TG too
Thx :)
Sure. This one is only for announcements, news, general education and info: https://t.me/cryptomedics
Here you can talk to people: https://t.me/cryptomedicsdiscussion
We also create pool for investors to enter seed/presales for ICOs.
You can also follow us on Steemit, we post here a lot lately
join us https://t.me/GPPGpumpVIPgroup
heyy much more than this group -> https://t.me/JokerCryptoPump
nice pump channel : @rocketpumptrader
Thanks so much for this. You sir, are a hero in the space. Resteemed and upvoted.
A hero to a hero ;)
Upvoted for getting a Steemit link to the front of /r/cryptocurrency
Pump and Dump is part of unregulated market strategy in any market that i have seen...stock, future, commodity, CFD.......You make tons of money and lose tons of money too. Once the regulation comes in June 2018....it is illegal to pump and dump. Enjoy the next round of pump and dump. High risk high return.
Pump and dumps are already illegal almost everywhere. It's not 'wait for regulation', you can be prosecuted for it today.
This style of market making (pump and dump) destroyed the penny stock exchanges of yesteryear. Market Markers are already working to create put and call options for cryptocurrency. I suspect we will soon see banks building portfolios of subprime crytocurrency loans lined with credit default swaps.
Do you know of a specific regulation coming in June 2018?
Thank you for posting this! What a bunch of creeps....
Bravado threatened some ppl for twitting this article and made this statement below:
Bitcoin Bravado has lost all credibility.
LOL, I really hope they do sue, because the legal discovery process would require the logs from their TG groups to be entered into the record. Wanna bet this is not the first time they (allegedly, ha!) set up a P&D.
If any of them is a resident of US or shilled it there, they are seriously fucked. And these threats ultimately expose them.
wowwww.....
Just wow. This is bad but not unexpected.
Good job man and yes this is illegal see the official statement from the CFTC. http://www.cftc.gov/idc/groups/public/@customerprotection/documents/file/customeradvisory_pumpdump0218.pdf
Of course it's illegal. Did we really need to look up whether market manipulation for financial gain was illegal?
Scanning through the comments it seems so.
Exactly
Scary. Then those folks have no business being in these markets.
Not entirely surprising there are lots of greedy and unscrupulous people in this space.
This reminds us that we ALWAYS need to do our own research before investing in a coin.
What??? NO, this should NOT be your takeaway. The coin they picked has great fundamentals and potential. There is no way that doing research can uncover private Telegram channels unless they are exposed (which rarely happens).
Your takeaway should be that:
When I'm considering to buy a coin I never go in if the price is mooning for no reason... sometime I guess i'm missing opportunities but there is many other in the crypto world!
Research won’t protect from pump and dump though. From what I’ve read they target coins with good fundamentals and low market cap. Which is also an investment strategy.
OH MY FUCKING GOD. Continue posting, I've followed u immediately
pumps and dumps run by scamstars like these are the reason why more than half of the people are afraid of investing in cryptos....
No it isn't. More than half of the people never heard of cryptos. Those who do know, they fear investing in cryptos because they fear risk, PERIOD.
I am so floored that people reading this are actually surprised that it happens! NewsFlash: It also happens in traditional markets. Don't get twisted and act as if it doesn't.
I am not discussing the 'legality' of it all as we already know. Nonetheless, it has been going on in non-crypto markets and still is today REGARDLESS of the legalities.
EXACTLY!
LONG LIVE PUMP AND DUMP
do not see the problem...what do you think of all the the 130 milj tether dollar they print to fix prices...and that are not the little guys annymore...https://steemit.com/crypto/@ivan19670472/crypto-news-nasdaq-is-open-to-become-a-cryptocurrency-exchange-26-04-2018
Thanks man for sharing this! Glad to have you here!
This is precisely the type of shit that makes it look like nothing more than a huge ponzi... unfortunately crypto is infested with this.
Crypto may be the future and it's wild wild west feel is great, but when you see more extreme cases like this, it simply puts people off. One of the things that got me into crypto what to avoid the issues that exist with large banks and many institutional players. Sad to see we are making our own equivalent.
Not shocked, just very disapointed.
aw you poor thing. Did they upset you. Grow the fuck up. This is crypto. There is nothing wrong with this. Its not illegal nor should it be.
This kid hasn't been scammed yet, that they know of lol. BTW it is illegal. Hence the Bitconnect shills getting dragged into court for similar shit.
Any crypto investor with a ounce of common sense would know this is illegal. You must have been under a rock not to know that.
I doubt the SEC can do anything about this. Crypto is unregulated for now, and these pump and dump groups have been here since the beginning.
Thanks for this - we need to get rid of bad actors bc these types of scenarios are why half my friends avoid crypto!
Watch out for shady guys in your neighbourhood. Who knows what some BTC could buy if you got yourself some wealthy enemies 😓 Thanks a lot for your work and this info!
When you say They're a bunch of frauds that tried to defame my brand do you mean you're one of the founders of Haven?
Thank you for posting this, definitely didn't expect some of these people involved in this.
Thanks man for posting this. I resteemed to my followers and also posted in my Telegram channel for the community. Funny thing is, we share almost the same name in crypto ;). Looks like it matches our ethics as our mission is to provide quality crypto education, being transparent and avoid PnD groups. Thanks again for exposing those guys. I invite you to join us on Telegram and follow our Steemit too. Thank you again and keep up the good work.
CLEAR THE TRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bravo - WTG cryptomedication. if we don't ourselves police our own community, it will be done for us in a way that we won't like. Happy to help as I'm just starting to post articles here as well. great work - and it does look like work.
hell. if you think youtube/twitter personalities are doing this, imagine what the banking cartels and megacorporations pull off
CryptoGat is the worst of them all. He has shilled Bitconnect in the past and I don't get why people have suddenly forgotten that he did. He is no different from Crypto Nick, Trevon James and those other fake ass youtubers.
He get's paid to shill coins and he dumps them on his followers. He knows nothing about TA whatsover. Beware of scammers.
I'm really not surprised to be completely honest.
It really shouldn't come as a shock for anyone to learn that crypto is heavily manipulated and that a few big names are responsible for some of it. The most noteworthy thing about this story is the ineptitude of the bunch.
Market manipulation is doing no favors for the public image of crypto and should absolutely be called out/turned in at every possible opportunity. I originally applauded the author for his work, but after reading this (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5WUzfQROf7_wzsN29IoVeJEJkKhIJSV/view?usp=sharing) I take back any praise as it looks like he has released this information based on spite/ego.
The end result (the group being shutdown, possibly made an example of by the law) isn't changed by the motivation behind the exposure, but the guy sounds like a total dick and I'd go so far as to wager that he would be happily pumping away with them if he wasn't demoted.
Of course the response in that link is puerile, silly, and spiteful as could be. Given the caliber of many of the people in the crypto community these days, I'd expect no less.
This childish nonsense ALSO is doing no favors for the public image of crypto and I'm not sure that such behavior should be rewarded.
Just my $.02
This story is extremely exaggerated. Pump and dumps are terrible, immoral, and illegal. But get your story right, and stop with the click-bait titles.
Crypto influencers like BitcoinDad support $XHV. But he and other crypto influencers have no affiliation with the fact that some random no-namers want to try and pump and dump a coin that they like.
Don't try to associate influencers with pumping and dumping a coin just because they support the project of a coin that happens to get pump and dumped by other people.
Worse than Pump and Dump groups, hide behind (pretending to be) being genuine and even tell people to pay for their premium group chat...
It's amazing that nearly everyone in the comments take this as factual evidence, the entire chat could be falsified with fake accounts and 1 asshole with too much time on their hands + a vendetta against the framed individuals. And even if it is true, who cares? The volume that they could control is pretty pathetic, I'm more worried about tether, ASICs, governments, and a variety of other things than I am a couple of PnD participants.
Just to clarify, I don't support PnD's, but the title "MAJOR Crypto Influencers Caught Planning Massive Pump And Dump Schemes" and the first sentence "The post that you are about to read may potentially shake up the entire cryptosphere." Are just sensationalized and clickbaity. There is literally no chance this article could "shake up the cryptosphere"
Small cap coins are a huge risk due to the ease of market manipulation, this is well known. Those who are not educated shouldn't put $ on the table, I wouldn't go balls deep into the stock market without learning the risks. Everyone wants get rich quick. Greed is an easy thing to manipulate, let those who are greedy and hasty to gain wealth learn the hard way.
Once the SEC really cracks down and starts arresting people who participate and orchestrate PnD's they will take care of all of your worries. Do you seriously think the NSA hadn't already collected those communications and that you're outing some massive conspiracy that otherwise would go undetected/without consequence? Let's focus on problems that might actually affect crypto long term and not a few people attempting market manipulation.
That's why I stick to VET accumulation. Real world business and locked up tokens.
Outstanding journalism, well done. I came across your post on Coininsider, rather than Steemit; https://www.coininsider.com/havencoin-alleged-pump-and-dump/
I never liked crypto gat. Now i actully have a reason.
haha its funny cause he rubs me the wrong way to and i just couldn't figure out why.
Holy balls! When you said, "The post that you are about to read may potentially shake up the entire cryptosphere", I thought you were exaggerating. This is insane, I can barely believe it. WTF!
Upvoting for the effort and it is certainly an interesting read. Honestly, this is kind of what I expect out of Crypto at this point though. If you don't think all of the paid groups out there are not trying to be MMs then you are willfully ignorant of the space.
Will this make me take a longer look at some of the projects these guys are shilling? Yeah, but we need to be doing our own research anyway. If you buy in to a pump and dump because a twitter influencer said it was a good project, then that really is shame on the buyer.
Incredibly eye opening post 👁what's interesting is that the people involved all knew exactly what was going on. Nobody questioned the return or asked what they could potentially make from the deal, yet they willingly committed to and even financed through escrow a leveraged buy order that would've happened through the groups organizer. Also provides insight into how exchanges may collude with large investment groups and market movers. We all think we're buying the pump, but we're buying the dump, always. 💲
Thanks a million for exposing them...
They're called "shitcoins" for a reason.
Low notional value, easy to buy up and dump. Not so easy with Bitcoin, because its unit value is very high.
Reminds me of OTC Penny Stocks. Pump the issue, tease that you're going to release a 10-Q filing, then dump into the optimism.
Nice post, but I would've put out the most juicy screenshots and then linked to a gallery for the rest. This post is way damn long, man.
Thank you for the great work of making the crypto world a better place. Such a great potential can do so much good and so infested with this nefast actors.
Serious question at @cryptomedication - Would you have posted this if you haven't been demoted from Analyst in the group?
I love how this whole story is unwiding but I also can see that you have a history of bad temper and I honestly feel that you wodn't out these people if they didn't hurt your ego.
To be clear, I am not taking sides. All of these people are guilty as fuck, I just want to hear an honest answer because I think you knew this shit was going on for some time now.
Guys, this is the follow-up to @cryptomedication article. Read it please:
https://medium.com/cryptomedication/pt-ii-cryptomedications-response-to-bravado-3cba53b42e21
Superb job ..... Lets clear these trash out of cryptocurrency space. They are duping thousands of people, and they still want more money/cryptos. Cant they even stay happy with what theh have without committing these scams? These people should be beaten to death.....
Guys I found this pump group that is looking very promising
https://t.me/SkyMoonPumpSignal
https://discord.gg/BWY23rh
Also they give the signal on their website at https://skymoonsignal.com
good job keeping people accountable for their action...nothing wrong with this in the wild west crypto era but ethic count later on..timestamped and noted ..thanks
mane always knew most of these influences and shit are just some bitches. Never should trust what they post.
same beat. I aw through all of them except - joe and dog .. believed that they were good guys.
good work! thank you!