Hi Slowwalker it was obvious that earlier or later it will come this way.
I think the people bellow have a reason to celebrate a PARTY today they reached what they wanted to reach, to make one of the oldest investor to Power Down:
@OCDB
@curangel
@cervantes
@transisto
@theaustrianguy
@acidyo
@trafalgar
@smooth
@likwid
@joshman
@justineh
@justtryme90
@randowwhale
@lafona-miner
@delegate.lafona
@mmmkkk311
@sportsvoter
@eonwarped
@lebin
@holm
@leeyh
@waybeyongpadthai
@ctime
@joshmani
@ibc
@amico
Reading the comment chain it is funny how some of those people come and try to look innocent, like a white knight fighting for the right of Steemians. Actually that reminds me a dictatorship, bullying and even I have to think about the time when in early years of establishing of Soviet Union how the wealth of rich people, farmers were taken away with explanation now it belongs to the PEOPLE. Have we really reach that point?
What I also find funny, that those people are not upset about @slowwalker decision but just ready to accept his Steem Power as delegation, most probably to keep destroying others and having control on Steemit. The others are ready to buy his Steem. Maybe that was a reason behind of all downvoting to get your Steem Power for them?
I do not understand how such curation projects like @OCDB and @curangel can downvote constantly, If those people who delegated steem power to curation projects are aware about. Because we all know that there is Downvote trails and the people who want to give their SP for that know that. But those two are curation project and I am not sure if all the delegators know what the power is used for.
I would be not surprised if after this comment I will also be in blacklist of those above listed guys, but I do not care, I am FREE to tell what I think, nobody has taken my right for FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Cheers...Unlike other here I would advice you @slowwalker not to delegate to anyone and not to sell to those guys, rather invest in any other cryptocurrency. I am glad you will keep posting, do not let them to stop you. You have many friends around because YOU ARE SUPPORTING MANY ACCOUNTS manually and on daily basis!
I support what you write here @stef1
This has now gone too far.
Downvote posts all the way down to zero that have good content get totally sick. They say that other posts deserve to come on the Trend page and they can do that for those who give the massive downvote the strength to do it with upvote as well.
I'm getting sick of what's happening here now, it's not often I get pissed and use ugly words, but it's just before now.
But can't you just post a button that says I don't want my post to come on the trends page.
Everyone is not keen on their post to reach the trends page. I, for my part, am not keen on my posts reaching the trend page.
Can't you also just add a button that says a I will not earn more than $ 30 max on my post and if there is more profit it will go back into the pool. That button can be similar to the slider we use today on upvote / downvote. right to simply set the max amount on it or lower
For those of you who think you have the solution with downvote have to think again, you are about to destroy instead of building the platform.
You will not be allowed to decide who I have as my friends here and who I support.
This is a social network and you have to understand it. you have to stop such an aggressive policy when you downvote a post to zero, it was meant to kill @slowwalker completely, yes you almost managed to do it.
Why hasn't this post to @slowwalker been downvote, so far it stands at $ 54 and see who has given the highest upvote, it's @pharesim.
You can't believe that you want to make his posts invisible, you have gone completely crazy.
**Now it looks like that post deserves $ 54, **
but not the usual posts to @slowwalker because then would surely downvote to zero again, Shame on you.
Agree with you @xpilar. Indeed it went way to far
I can only hope that @slowwalker will decide to stay around and will change his mind. It would be enormous waste for our community to lose him.
I also see being on trending page as some kind of curse. Attracting wrong kind of awzttention.
What would be your reason behind it?
ps. why was slowwalker downvoted so heavily in the first place? was it because he delegated to some bot?
Yours, Piotr
Hi @crypto.piotr
The reason for that is that I am happy with those who follow me today and appreciate what I do. I would like to call it a community in the community. I can't understand why the trend page is so important to those who are now doing massive downvote, maybe that's where they find the ones they want to downvote. I wonder how many posts they read each day because it seems like the time they spend is going downvote.
Because they must first read what people write before giving a downvote or maybe not?
But now they give him upvote again, This is a double morality when they first crush people@slowwalker has not used any bot or delegated bot. It's all about earning too much and often coming on the trend side and what they call a voting ring. For example, that I vote for @slowwalker for a long time and that he gives me a vote back again. @slowwalker is my friend for several years here and of course he has over time built friendships with many here who vote for him and he has manually voted back on an incredible number of friends. But now some of those friends have gone against him and vote him down. This is not fair because now there is another agenda here. As you can see there is an upvote per now $ 66 for the post he wrote. They have beaten him under the belt and voted him zero.
I agree with stef1 and you on this comment review.
Appreciate it.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but the fact that you point to the people you tagged while ignoring the fact that @haejin / @ranchorelaxo (the same person) has been the worst abuser and downvoter of small accounts is pretty interesting.
The reward system of Steem tends to make a lot of users turn into brown nosing kiss assers. They often don't care about anyone aside from virtue signaling and fishing for upvotes on their content. Some of the more successful witnesses have found that you should play nice with people in hopes of getting their support instead of being open and frank about the problems that abound.
@slowwalker, I don't know much about you but your allegiance with @haejin / @ranchorelaxo most assuredly didn't help your reputation as someone that just wanted to share his blog and writings with the world.
Pretty much anyone that bought STEEM and powered it up has likely seen a decline in their "investment". I wouldn't take it very personal in that regard. One thing I notice though, you call downvotes "censorship" when your content has not been taken down or removed from the blockchain or pretty much any of the frontends. A few of your posts were probably downvoted into negatives which caused them to be "hidden" behind a button that users first had to click to read; but still, never were you censored.
Your posts appeared on the Trending page of SteemIt frequently. Moreso than many many other users that spent a lot of time researching and writing their content. Maybe they feel some kind of way that your mediocre content was surpassing theirs, though I can speak only for myself.
Hopefully you find a way to move forward from the drama and nonsense that runs rampant here on Steem. Hopefully you find a more lucrative "investment" if you indeed decide to relocate your funds.
Finally, if you don't care about rewards, you can always decline them when making your posts. That will send the loudest and most visible message that you really do not care about them in my opinion. When you decline rewards, they are returned into the rewards pool for all other authors.
Have a good day.
This argument is made over and over, however, censorship is not absolute removal of information. Censorship is also suppression of information, which downvoting something and making it hidden does. It is also demonetization, something that has become a hot topic for social networks and content producers. Isn't Steem suppose to be an oasis from those kinds of things? I guess not...
Cut the horseshit.
When you wind up like some users who are actually blocked from the frontends, then complain about "censorship".
That is the stronger version of censorship, however, censorship is commonly understood to simply be intentional inhibiting of a message, concept or person. Journalists have referred to Hollywood blacklists of certain actors as a form of censorship.
A growing number of professional provocateurs and small businesses are calling Youtube demonetization as well as Patreon and major banking institutions refusal of service as a form of censorship. The refusal to allow the Proud Boys to have a bank account for selling their online products is one example. Another example is how Patreon deplatformed Jordan Peterson over his ideological viewpoints.
If the intent is to shut down or severely diminish the capabilities of a person due to your disagreement with that individual it is an act of censorship. You don't like the idea because you want the power to do with without having to face the heat of public opinion against censorship.
You wish to control the narrative, but Steem going down a censorship path is a very dumb thing to do considering the kind of people usually attracted to cryptocurrencies. You can call it horse shit all you want, you can pound your fist and tell yourself its not censorship until Steem is truly dead. But look at the reality of what is happening, major members of Steem are sick of Steem's toxic negative energy.
They brought it upon themselves with their greed.
There's literally no difference between having to scroll through comments being upvoted to several dollars and me clicking a button to reveal someone's "hidden" comment.
They both serve to diminish, or censorship, by your logic.
Only fools think downvotes are the only means to suppress messages.
But the information is not suppressed, it's literally one click away from being shown. And that's on steemit, there are many frontends where those posts aren't even hidden.
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It’s about money. It’s always about money.
Respectfully, please read the definition of suppressed. "Removed" is not a requirement for censorship, that is just the strongest version of censorship. Censorship is the taking of any action to eliminate OR diminish the message of someone else.
For example, I enjoy listening to Dave Rubin, who is a mild speaking libertarian. When he gives public talks it is common for people of opposing ideologies to sit in the audience and begin making noises with bells or some kind of jingling thing. These people are not preventing Dave Rubin from speaking, but they are trying to diminish or hinder his message by creating distracting noises. That is censorship.
Taking an action to diminish the visibility of someone's message is censorship, in whatever form it takes. The only reason people are arguing against the dictionary definition is because they like to pretend they are not on the side of censorship when in fact they are.
Upvote is censorship then as people have conveniently voted the message they want to be visible to the top.
Let’s be real here.
That is called competition, not censorship. Upvoting someone is drastically different from picking an individual out to demonetize and reduce visibility. You are grasping for whatever poor excuse you can make to justify the way you want things.
Many people believe the solution to a lot of the censorship and crony capitalism on Steem is to remove POB from STEEM rewards and make it an optional feature of SMTs. That's what I am rooting for, otherwise, the downvote behavior is going to taint the entire platform.
If that happens then all you folk that like your downvote button can enjoy it with your own SMT. And I will not be bothering with that token.
Nonsense. That's assuming "proof of brain" actually exists. Look at this bloody thread. The only reason why people voting stuff up is because they think their comments need to be the ones that's visible.
Ever heard of "upvoted for visibility"?
If we make a SE token that can only be earned from being downvoted, then it’s okay?
Face it. It’s never about censorship. It’s always been about money for the likes of you. Only exploiters ever argue against downvoting.
Suppression:
The need for one more click is not preventing me from seeing something. Again, this is on Steemit only. On other frontends you don't even need this click, so this is not censorship.
I agree that this is a kind of censorship, but this whole situation is completely different from ours. If someone is making distracting noises so you can't hear a person speaking, is completely different than the need for one additional click to see the information.
It would be the same if you for example just could into another place in the room, where you can hear this guy speaking without any problems. Or when you wouldn't even be able to post on Steem in the first place.
People seem to have so much self pity these days. I down vote what I believe is for the better. I don't have much if any contact with the majority of this list.
Slowwalkers content is fine, mediocre but fine. I just don't enjoy seeing 3 of his recent post in trending, especially because it all is because one big circle Jerk with people who are known to abuse the system in the past.
I support OCDB with my down votes because they are not afraid to take a stance against this kind of behavior. We are not a mafia, but a bunch of people who both have witnessed and knows how counter productive these kind of behaviors are to the community.
This is no dictatorship but actually just a response from the community. :-)
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Look at the facts.
The minus team gives votes to the same people who are the best bloggers in New Steem.
There is no successful blogger who is not supported by the same group of people.
Now you must not vote for yourself, for the ones you love (the people you invited to invest the money as a brother, child, woman) because you need to vote for new users.
The idea of helping new users is a utopia because people connect naturally when you break that social aspect, it's totally absurd to write posts at all.
Steem support is finite, instead of giving downvotes the final output number should be made and inflation prevented.
Someone who has not invested a single cent is now acting as a judge, in which business model it is normal for investors to be disrespectful. These same users get rewards for posting one picture of a game, or 3 pictures of a mountain from the same lobby group that does justice.
Then whales don't need to tap posts and vote for themselves and their loyal servants, everyone should vote randomly for new users, and if that's the point then there's no need to write at all.
This is a new mistake that will cost us a lot more, why no one calls all the whales and orcs into the conversation, but rather something is done without question - normally when someone has the plan and interest to take down some whales and be the absolute ruler of the New Steem dictatorship.
The idea of supporting new users is a good one, but it is essentially utopian for a social networking site like Steemit, especially in this downstream way, and the same judges vote for their people - there is no realization.
This 💯
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It's a shame how these guys policing and ruining steemit and steem.
These guys all support each other too.....making them the biggest circle jerkers off all time. Nobody should be buying Steem right now......just Join the KGB above and reap the rewards when anyone disagrees with you. Steemit is slowly dying and the group above are the centralized dictators.
You of all people know what a circle jerker is, don't you buddy? You are in the same boat as this guy aren't you?
If I didn't find your behavior so freaking ridiculous it would almost be funny. Your hypocrisy is almost as big and fat as your gut and your ego. Do you ever wonder if your behavior, the same behavior you brought with you to your buddy Stewies site, could partially be involved in the slow death of the network?
Quit stroking your ego and virtue signaling and do something about your bullshit. At least @slowwalker claims he is going to be changing his behavior in hopes of a #newsteem. Maybe you should take a lesson from him instead of trying to shit stain all the time.
I turned my auto voter off long before slowwalker did douche bag....check the stats that don’t lie. Your opinion matters very little to me anyway, actually respect @pharesim and @acidyo more than you and that’s saying something. Get your Steem power up...your acct looks hungry as a hippy.
And somehow he’s still more valuable to Steem than you...
Riiight.....with his stack of FBI Cease and Desist orders.
Did Stuart tell you he got the FBI involved and you swallowed it up like you have been his cum since he got you to waste your money in his unsanctioned ICO? If anyone should be worried about the FBI or government intervention it is him. But don't worry, I'll prove it to you later if you want.
"His stack of Cease and Desist orders" lmao
Thanks but no need to defend me to this asshat. He is mad because he literally lost 99%+ of his $50-100k investment in VIT and I like to poke his fat belly about it to remind him.
I was just stating a fact 🤷♀️ Didn’t know you boys had just a love history..
But our dear bronc did try to teach me a lesson by removing his witness vote for a curation project ... that will really show me 😃
Cheers
This is the real point of the story, everyone on the list has the support of the same group of people, and yet they think they can do whatever they want.
I am reading this further.
I agree with you.
Also look the words. "The big delegators " of course they are looking mainly for their benefits. This guys only care for big delegators. Now we can all see in comment. It is shame that for other smaller delegators they think of so little. Should they all know what is their downvote delegation pool used for???? For example nullifying @slowwalker posts and other censorship to steemit blogging freedom. Now we all see how small vision they have mainly for themselves and even smaller vision for steemit platform.
Oh don't worry. The big delegators all know what they do support. The downvote trails are even bigger, and growing.
The community is finally standing up against selling and trading votes. Only those who want to keep using the reward pool for their personal gains keep complaining. Those do not support the community as a whole, and we're better off without them.
Every steem that doesn't go towards self rewarders is available again for the rest of the users. That's why we see a lot of small authors earn more these days than before the free downvotes were introduced. This will allow the community to grow, and everyone who participates will profit.
You must be joking, @pharesim. Small blogs are dying here right now. It's carnage, as you can see in this post and especially in the comments:
Whale Tip! Only YOU Can Save NewSTEEM
Are you referring to this blog as a "small blog"? You realize he is consistently on Trending with content that is far worse than the majority of the actual small blogs on Steem? The entire point of downvoting the highest earners is to improve earnings for the smaller authors and content creators.
The ENTIRE POINT of the 7 day voting period on a post is to allow people to use their stake to decide what is under or over rewarded. You are not entitled to post earnings until the 7 day voting period has ended and you receive a payout.
No one is taking money from anyone's account. If you are aware of "small blogs" with valuable content that you feel are under rewarded, why are you not making an effort to help them get exposure so they can get more votes?
Its hard to believe people are this stupid.
Downvote curation is even more important as we've seen what happens over two years when that doesn't exist, curation projects not using their downvotes are cowards and show how little they care about the greater good of Steem and mostly just about their own safety. Curation downvoting not only costs us time without anything in return for it but at the same time gets you retaliation and endless arguments by idiots wanting to live in the past and constantly receive higher ROI than honest curators.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply as I know there is no change in hell you'll understand what this is about and even if you do you won't admit to it.
I was not present here for few years.
Could you explain to me what is difference between vote bots and downvote bots in retrospect of curation.
I would appreciate.
Is this good platform at this point. How to make right choice of witnesses to vote and support. It is confusing.
After reading all of this comments one would be get confused.
Merci
@flysky stop pretending this is not you ahahahahha you really think we are morons xD
For those who wish to know more:
@flysky has his socket puppet accounts to extract value from Steem (even tho' he stopped when I exposed him). The accounts are @xboxguru @digitalboss and @hamletnow.
Who?
My name is Hamlet
What do you mean by WHO? You don't know flysky? :)
##I value your opinion. You are sharp businessman.
But deep deep down you know that platform is off course.**
**Stop by discord anytime so we can see together how we can all work together.
We Win Together.
Downvote to zero @slowwalker post is not the only solution for platform and I know that you see it here now.
"I had joined Steemit 3 years ago for the vision of no-censorship blog."
I was not aware that this small group planned this. Now all others know who nullified and destroyed
This is beyond investment. @slowwalker good blogging rewards and his invested time on quality content. I hope @slowwalker will continue blogging and to be part of steemit with his original blogging legacy.
"If we force someone to stop writing blogs for the reward with mass downvote,
it is not different from the strongest censorship, in my guess."
Well...
Yes I have downvoted slowwalker as I felt his content was over rewarded, as I have done many times to many different individuals.. it’s how it’s supposed to work. I’ve also upvotes hundreds of unique accounts a week as well as volunteered countless hours curating users, like yourself, for no gain of my own..
Yeah you’re right, I’m a horrible person.
I’m not celebrating and have said repeatedly I didn’t agree with the blind and excessive downvotes... but who cares about facts if they don’t fit your narrative.
also pretty sure votes have nothing to do with freedom of speech, but since that’s like beating a dead horse here, I’ll just leave it be.
Thanks for tagging me.
Why do you downvote @slowwalker
Hi @stef1
Very good point buddy.
I can only hope that @slowwalker will decide to stay around and will change his mind. It would be enormous waste for our community to lose him.
Yours, Piotr
Woow, this group really zeroed his post. That was not nice.