Hey There SteemVerse Friends
I recently had a conversation with a Radio Head who pointed out the reason why one of the Stations I was with didn't make it was because it was catered to women. He went on to say according to research, women are critical and judgmental of each other, which would mean there would be resistance to the station from the very target market we were going for.
I did over time, give that a lot of thought. Sheryl Sandberg's Lean In Movement was about women supporting each other. And to have someone champion such a course with a best selling book and Women Groups all over the world taking the initiative to adopt this makes me wonder if this is indeed true. So much so, you needed to make it sexy for women to want in.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think women need to be encouraged to support each other?
While you ponder on that, I would like to shout out to all the women I have met on the SteemVerse who are supportive and encouraging to men and women alike. A heart felt thank you to
@mariannewest
@khimgoh
@dreemsteem
@priyanarc
@xcountytravelers (Ren)
@deepsouthpiddlin
@jaynie
@paulag
@fitinfun
@vincy
@snook
@brittandjosie
@thekittygirl
@thekitchenfairy
@simplymike
@crosheille
@metzli
@mommamonza
@eaglespirit
@roselifecoach
@happycrazycon
@littlenewthings
@elizacheng
@iamjadeline
@mvd
@traciyork
@fionasfavourites
@thereikiforest
I am pretty sure I have left out some names and they are going to pop up in my head later. You know who you are, probably the ones are just as surprised as I was when I heard that a Women's Station will not work because the women are going to resist just because ....
Thank you all so much for being you.
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No gender bias, enjoy sharing many persons outlook, debate or definitions on life. Personally I lean more toward topics that are technical, environmental, wildlife, photography or financial, I visit to read/hear what the person has to say, have met very talented/learned people along the way.
When facing content written by a person who is not using English as a first language be supportive. Gender preference, not really other than I don't go down certain roads, I avoid them at all cost such as religion, politics, knitting, sewing or discussions about being PC (Politically Correct) in this modern day.
I have never joined any woman's groups (not intentional, just never happened), help others grow, we all have life lessons to teach. Treat people as you would like to be treated.
Sewing and knitting? Sounds like me and housework except I can’t get away from it :)
That last line, that’s my go to every single time.
Thank you so much @joanstewart for your thoughts <33
Personally I think the difference between men and women is being overrated. I think people should encourage people, no matter if they are a man or a woman.
It's one of the great things about SteemIt... if you want to, you can be without gender. There are so many people of whom I thought they were female, and after a long while I found out they were not - and the other way around, lol.
I prefer to be supported because I'm me, because of the qualities I have or the support I need. Not because I'm a woman. There's a lot of gender-related discrimination in the world, both positive ánd negative. I don't approve either. I think gender is the absolute least of factors that should be taken into consideration.
Hear Ye! Hear Ye! :)
Yeah, you definitely had me confused at the start...
I'm all in for support and lifting each other up
<33
Looking forward to doing my bit for the Minnow Project :)
Good to see a list of Steem wonder women and I have interacted with almost everyone.......I believe still there are many....need to have a consolidated list of all
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There are many other names that I have seen mentioned but have not had the chance to get to know them .... and I am pretty sure more names will pop in my head
Also amazing men on the SteemVerse
This is a good place to be 😊
👍👍
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Sadly, I do believe that there are many people...in general, men and women alike who have the "crab in the bucket" mentality.
However...I also believe that we choose where we want to be. I shy away from people (men and women alike) who tend to be discontent with their own lives and want to drag you down with them.
When I find a gem (and I see a lot of them in your list and could add just about every single person that usually shows up to @shadowspub's PYPT hehehe just cuz I KNOW how supportive that group is and why I OFTEN find myself there hehehe) ...I tend to stick where there is genuine support.
We can tell the difference,as humans.
I don't know if I believe that an entire station will go down because of a higher concentration of women supporters. I don't really concern myself with such things.lolol. If something is awesome , I support it. If it's not... I don't. Lol
Regardless of gender.
I think (in general.. NOT in every case) women tend to be more emotional than men, so when they disagree- how it's viewed might be different than a disagreement between men.
But I really think he's talking about a specific type of woman. One that loves drama and loves to be vocal about it. They aren't the majority, but they tend to create such a ruckus about anything that they sure seem like the majority.
But that kind of behavior isn't exclusive to women and I think anything done well has an opportunity to succeed.
The key is doing it well and garnering genuine supporters. Quality over quantity.
Just my opinion and thank you for listing me among that group ❤️
You would definitely be listed in mine!!!
part of the problem is a tendency by a lot of men to dismiss out of hand anything that leans toward women's interests while women would not think twice about supporting the flipside.
women can be judgemental, so can guys. Dismissiveness is a form of judgement.
I heart that
Thank you @shadowspub for swinging by to share your thoughts on this
I truly appreciate it <33
I thought the crab analogy was an Asian story. Now I have to find the origin ;p
I truly appreciate your opinion @dreemsteem
Thank you for taking your time <33
@shadowspub is definitely one I keep hearing too ... not just from you ...:)
That is probably Hobo telling stories again. She’s getting carried away with that keyboard
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I rarely join anything women-centric. I have not had got luck with the effort for the most part. I'm in 100's of fb groups and a lot are about making money online. The women's groups do not help much and everyone struggles. The groups with more men in them are much more goal centered and people are more successful there. But those are hard for me to relate to sometimes as I AM a woman.
I get out if I am in anything talking about feminism. I think we all need to work together with our different strengths.A lot of woman's groups seem to be negative to me and I seek positivity where ever I go.
Talking about woman's issues keeps me off my path. Woman do not want to talk about being fat in groups and I have been banned from many over the years just for this reason. My one-track mind keeps me from seeing too much else of what they are talking about in woman's groups anyway. I normally scroll past anything that is not health-related.
Thank you for the feedback Sharon
I know you are supportive of your mission first and foremost <33
Haha! I stay the course in my goals, even if my execution is not great :)
<33
In my opinion I don't think women have a high trust for each other. We can be very judgmental and unkind to one another. Once we get each other then we can be very supportive, but it can be a hard chore to fit in with our own gender. This has been my experience anyway.
I have had some unpleasant encounters with women. But also with men.
I have to say though, here on the SteemVerse, I have found plenty of heart from both men and women :D
Thank you so much for your feedback, truly appreciated <33
Feeling so honored to be mentioned. Coming from you it is a tremendous compliment. Now on the topic, throughout life I have found that insecurities can cause women to act and think out of emotion, especially when one feels threatened in some way. I try to put myself in another persons shoes if possible and have compassion and understanding for why they may respond in a negative way. If someone is relentless and unwilling let go of negative emotion then I am one to move on. I love to support other women, and intelligent and more seasoned women tend to have less insecurities imo. I have always heard that the media (tv, radio, commercials, ads) tend to make women feel they have to fit a mold and in return it has made a vast majority of women feel inadequate I do feel this has become less and less common since so many these days are awakening to more and more realities beyond the typical programming. My experience in the past 207 days here in the steem community has been a pleasant one for the majority and very eye opening for me because previously I was very introverted and kept to myself. I am enlightened and encouraged by this community. Out of all the interactions I have had only 1% of the female population here has been rude to me. That's one out of how many? So I think it's went quite well and says a lot about the majority of mindsets. I've seen so many women uplifting each other and many I have noticed and looked up to are on your list. I am a firm believer that we should all treat each other the way we want to be treated. I am glad you have opened this up for discussion, I think it's healthy and a good reminder that we all should do our best to be kind and set an example and by doing so expands on a more loving and giving community. Nothing is perfect, but we can all strive to think of others first, leave resentments at the door, and communicate effectively. I also believe a firm backbone in place is needed for times when we run up on a person of a true nasty character. I try to be civil in hairy situations, but once in awhile a girl has to do, what a girl has to do. But for everyday general interactions, I say love, lift-up and look out for one another :) ♥
Great comment
Thank you so much for this :)
There is a special lot here on the SteemVerse... some who have kept me in the game 💗
Thanks for the mention ❤️❤️❤️ women being judgemental and cutting each other down is a farse that few still believe. My personal life experience has been of only loving and helpful women. Here on the Steem blockchain my interactions have been very positive and most are with other women ☀️😘🥳
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Same same <33
Thank you for the feedback @metzli :D
I don't have any thoughts, because that's what people say, hmmm
But I keep grooving, cant stop, wont stop moving, cause I got this feeling, in my mind us women do care and try to lift up EVERYONE
But haters gonna hate, hate hate and excuses gonna be made, made made, am just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake it off, shake it off
(Taylor Swift's song in the background 😉)
Love you! 🤗🤗🤗🤗
hahahahaha
Love how much fun you are!!!
Thank you for the feedback and you just keep on grooving <33
good question! While there are indeed loads of women who criticize each other, I would say that these are not the most representative of our kind, and probably also not the smartest =). Personally, I like to uplift other women around me, because we have to stick together.
<33
I keep telling people there are gems on Steem
Crypto with Heart :)
Thank you so much for your comment @evecab
Awwww thanks so much for the shoutout! You as well have been very sweet and supportive!
Unfortunately I have been in situations where I have witnessed a group of women bring each other down instead of lift each other up. I have been in MORE situations where it was just the opposite. It really depends on the mentality of people and where they place their values. Sadly even grown people still have jealousies and envies and instead of fighting through those thoughts and feelings they act on them.
I can say that as far as being here on Steemit, I have had nothing but great experiences with the women here, sone even from your list. I have been blessed to even meet people I talk to outside of this plattform. It’s so important that we build each other up and not down. We already have so many prejudices against us for being women, we need to stick by one another and encourage each other.
I am so grateful for @steemitmamas!! These ladies are a jewel ~
Yes Steemitmamas... super supportive..
Thank you so much for sharing your experience @crosheille <33
Absolutely ;D
Firstly, thank you for the shout out.❤️ I am truly grateful to meet you and many other awesome women here as well.
Secondly, don't have much opinion on this except I think women generally are more emotional (but some men are too) and I think it is a gift if used properly.
However, sadly, there are really a few women out there who are all out using harsh words, due to past hurts, so they might be verbally attacking people with words. And we all know words are powerful.
But I love women and men. Haha. We complete one another. So it is when we use our strength and 'weaknesses' properly will there be love and peace and harmony.
Anyway, I am happy I jump in Steemit bandwagon. Thank you for sharing your hearts.
Your tolerance level and your compassion is one of a kind
You are amazing....
No surprise.. for you it all love love love.... and love :D
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts <33
I think that there is both out there. Women who are very supportive of each other and want to lift each other up- and women who hold each other to much higher standards than they would hold men.
I am hoping that in a couple more generations, we have learned to be cooperative across all that is now a divide - gender, race, age, socio-economic status...
In the meantime - we try...
hmmmm.... that's what I thought as well... the expectations...
I know you choose love... over and over again
I am with you :)
Thank you os much for your thoughts on this....<33
What is wrong with people! I think women support each other very much. Okay, wait, I know women support each other, especially here on the blockchain!!!!
I think you should do a show on Dtube that is about and for women! You would be wonderful at it and I think it would be a hit!!!!!
Ren
Wow. I must live in another world. Reading what the other wonderful ladies had to say, I am feeling a bit lucky because I had have nothing but encouragement and support. Hmmmm, maybe they see me as a kid at heart and feel I need to be babied.
Ren
How not to love you Ren? 🥰
@kaerpediem -
I saw this yesterday and wanted to write a comment that just wouldn't work on from my phone - I have too much to say! lol
Firstly, thank you for the shoutout!
Secondly, I think there are two categories of women (there may be more, and the same categories apply to men), but in my experience, there are those who can, will and do, support each other, but there is a category that will not. I think that, by and large, and now there's an increasing body of research (I'm too lazy to go and look for the citations) that show that women are wired to be communicators and nurturers. In my experience, though, in the corporate world and other competitive environment where women oprate, the women who succeed, are either wired differently or they make a conscious choice to ignore that wiring.
I think that because many of us are nurturers (and you don't have to be a mother to nurture, and by the same token, I have seen women turn into nurturers because of motherhood - and that's where it stops), when we encounter the apparently hard, "give it hell, regardless of the consequences" woman, those of us at the opposite end of the scale, find it really difficult.
So:
I think that there probably is research to corroborate that - in a corporate environment. I do think that there is certainly plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary - as you have said in your post.
So (again) I think your friend's conclusion is wrong: there may be a load of other reasons and one of them is because women are busy people and, I'm going to be lambasted, I think, busier than men because regardless of how the world has progressed towards egalitarianism, women still have much, much more work to do than men. Lots of it associated with the nurturing role I have mentioned. I have a theory as to why most games (traditionally, and until recently) have been developed by men.
They have the time. They take (or are given - depending on how you couch it) the time. They are not making sure the house is clean, the kids are fed, etc., etc. And women who are breadwinners will tell you that unless they have partners who take on those chores, they have a hard time. And, I bet you the fathers that are primary care-givers will also tell you that they, too, don't have time for the niceties.
OMG I have seriously digressed and gone on a bit of a feminist diatribe. Sorry. Maybe not....
All that is a long way to saying I think that women do need to be encouraged to support each other and because so many of us have been judged and have self-esteem issues, it's about how that safe space is created. And that women may need the freedom to move in and out of it as their circumstances and needs change.
My very long 2c worth!
My favourite part
I absolutely enjoyed reading this, so much so I read it once earlier but kept getting distracted... so saved it to read it later (now) at home :)
Thank you so much for your 2c worth :p
Which? That there is research, or that I'm too lazy to find the sources? LOL
Glad it resonated for you!
You are so sure that you don't even need to back it up ;p hahaha
<33
I am glad you are laughing. Some would have judged me for being so arrogantly lazy. Hahahahahaha!
I am just judging you for being cleverly cheeky :D
Judgement happily received 🤣
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In a way, I think that was an awful thought to have. Even though it says in research that women are critical and judgemental, I would like to see what background this comes from. Some people are just judgemental because of how they were brought up or no one showed them how to be more open minded. Who knows. Some people might need encouragement to support but it always takes a fine teacher to lead the way.
In the kind of world that we have, it is better to start planting a positive seed, feed it and watch it grow and bloom or not bloom, rather than plant it and then talk it down without the feeding of chances at success.
I think that is most likely what this person you were talking to was actually doing. Why wouldnt it be ok to have a show that catered to women? There are shows that cater to men and good for them! They have something that they feel is good for them.
Before I continue on, making a colossal of a comment here, the first thing that is needed is respect for each other and let things be, rather than fishing to crush and destroy whether it is intentional or not. Negative feedback in this manner shouldn't be welcomed and that's when things should push through harder.
We are who we are and if there is a radio show that caters to women and some women that go there in a state of closed mindedness, then perhaps there is something that they hear that will change their minds even just a little and make their lives that much better. You never know, and that is why it is worth it!
Men can be just the same. It is proven in that statement above in your post....
He wasn't confrontational about it or anything
Just like nonchalantly stating some research finds and throwing it out there with all my reasons of why the station didn't work
Of course, when we discussed the reasons during all those Board Meetings before shut down, this was never a consideration... so I was a little surprised
I guess it takes all kinds
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
And sorry for the tardy reply :D
The fact that he said it in that fashion, like nothing to it, is already a problem :(
Yeah, I know what you mean....