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Eric Dubay on @dollarvigilante 's Anarchast channel, a couple of years ago.
United Nations Flag is a depiction of the flat earth: 
I've not yet been convinced completely that the earth is flat, but I'm not longer believing the earth is round either. My own experiences have yet to shed proof either way...however it's much easier to prove the earth is flat, using first-person tests.
Thanks Jeff Berwick...hoping to meet him here tomorrow for FreedomFest, after his talk- and if we're lucky I may be able to get an interview for Crypt0's News :D
Cheers friends. I'm very curious to know what you think, however I do ask that you take emotion and bias out of it, and approach this with an open and reasonable frame of mind.
-Crypt0 (Omar)
I think this is one the best flat earth documentaries ever and it has like 3 episodes. I watched all of them and they are very interesting.
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Why, because it's full of trailer park trash who can barely speak and have no teeth? Or because it uses "The Truman Show" as a logical example?
I agree, there are so many valid scientific arguments to the flat earth!
Really digging this one- probably tops in this space. Cheers, Dominican brother!
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ROFL. Step away from the computer for awhile.
Can you faggots pls remove pepe from your stupid disinformation videos. This is a CIA astroturfing campaign https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@psyopsx1000/flat-earth-cia-disinformation-campaign
I've looked at the flat earth theory from every angle, and I'm pretty sure I've heard every argument for it, but they all fail to pass basic logic tests. The evidence for a spherical earth are so numerous and unexplained properly under a flat earth model.
After everything I've heard I see no reason to dismiss the overwhelming conclusion of scientists and college students worldwide for the last at least 200 years. The earth is not flat, and openly stating you it is automatically discredits your very ability to reason correctly in most people's minds. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's the whole point.
As I've mentioned above, I'm not convinced that the earth is flat, but I'm continuing to approach it as everything else- with an open mind. Even if it turns out to be wrong, how much will I have learned along the way, about various subjects?
Just because thousands upon thousands of experiments rely on what's already cemented in the scientific literature, from one viewpoint which suggests gravity exists, doesn't make them a law. All images we have from space come from one organization, and no one has ever traveled across Antarctica. Until we have visible proof, from the PEOPLE I'll continue to remain skeptical either way,
If I lose credibility for having an open mind to learning, then that's credibility lost from those who I'd rather not have some from anyway. I'm not meaning you specifically, Garth. I've held your stance for a long time, but this video at least caused me to raise a brow and question everything- my creed for life.
Cheers,
Omar
Congratulations Omar on being able to openly question the fundamentals that we're given. I also haven't come to a conclusion on the earth model debate, but I can unquestionably state that we have been given loads of BS since childhood (including a lot of supposedly "scientific" theoretical models). We need to re-question everything we've been indoctrinated with. I applaud anyone that is able to that. It's actually a really big step to do so and most people never get up enough courage for it.
It's not just a single organisation, many organisations have satellites orbiting earth, you can watch a Space X launch live to see. It's simply an unreasonable conclusion to draw given the amount of assumptions required, and lack of evidence provided. Without even delving into the science, it is unreasonable to assume that every astrophysicist in the entire world is involved in some massive cover up, and that consequently, nearly all known science is completely false (all science explored by all scientists for the last few hundred years, including great minds such as Einstein). The proposed motive for this cover up is weak at best. Science isn't some unfounded weak code written by the elite, it is testable, provable, and has been done so by many independent sources globally for hundreds of years. To be fair, you haven't stated a firm opinion, so I'm not criticising; but I recommend you write out all of the evidence/motive for flat earth, then study the evidence for spherical earth and it becomes preeeetty feckin' obvious =)
you need to be careful who you choose for a teacher. if you are being taught by a member of a delusional paranoid cult, there's a good chance that the lessons you learn will just take you further from the truth, and damage your sanity...
Just lost a lotta respect for you here. Berwick is intermittently a nutjob and you just literally put yourself 500 years back in science. You're on the platform made by the son of a Nasa rocket scientist.
Haven't you noticed that all the "contributors" in these Flat Earth videos are near-toothless trailer park trash who can barely speak proper English?
What POSSIBLE reason is there for this conspiracy? WHERE IS THE MOTIVE?
Is this a joke? Why would anyone believe what you say in your videos now?
I mean, are you fucking insane? Have you never seen a picture of the earth? You actually think those are all faked?
Was your account hacked? How do you manage to sound so competent in crypto videos while hiding such insanity?
Jesus Christ, what's next, are you going to question if there's Oxygen in the air because you can't see it?
This is just....my head has exploded.
Unfollowed. Unsubbed.
"On this day in 1633, chief inquisitor Father Vincenzo Maculano da Firenzuola, appointed by Pope Urban VIII,begins the inquisition of physicist and astronomer Galileo Galilei. Galileo was ordered to turn himself in to the Holy Office to begin trial for holding the belief that the Earth revolves around the Sun, which was deemed heretical by the Catholic Church. "
LOL. You're an inquisitor now, but I was wrong, maybe you only set yourself back 384 years.
lol.
Mr Omar, I also had my doubts. This is BY FAR the best rational thoughts on the subject. Please watch this video. No emotion from me here, just common logic examples applied here. This is part one in a 3 part series, but part one explains it enough if you dont have tie to watch the other 2 parts. At the end of the day, one must use observable facts and apply logic to them in order to decide the truth for ones self. Hope this helps bro!
Sweet dude- I respect your thoughts, and will give this a look once I finish one I'm watching right now. I appreciate it, starkerz- thanks for sharing!
Hope it helps. first few minutes are a little wishy washy, but after about minute 2 it gets very very logical. The other two videos in the series are GREAT as well and really go into deeper details!
Additionally, would be great to hear your thoughts on this subject after hearing all the cool inputs from the people below in this thread and see what you end up deciding on the matter. Look forward to it ;))
CHL has a lot of great videos.
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Hey Omar! Love your YouTube content. I've been watching for a while, so it's awesome to see you show interest in another giant subject that is blowing up! The point of flat earth isn't geography, but the brainwashing and lie system that has been implemented that allows us to be duped to the level that many of us are at today. Crypto and flat earth. Doesn't get much better. Much respect!
Actually it does get better. Crypto and no flat earth. The whole point of science is uncovering truths that are NOT obvious because the scale is either too big, too small, or too far away. As some one pointed out above, if we went by how things looked with our 5 senses, science would return to the stone ages.
So, where does the extra mass come from? Gravity doesn't increase because of circumference, but due to mass. So the planet getting bigger on the outside without a corresponding increase in mass wouldn't cause an increase in gravity.
I think what you are describing is true with things on earth, in relation to earth. But when you are talking about a large body in outer space, I think it has to do more with its displacement of "space/time" , or what was once known as the "aether". You also have the earth spinning, so larger circumference could have an increase in angular momentum too perhaps. After all, round rotating space stations have been conceived for artificial gravity I believe, at least in scifi.
According to the "hollow earth" legends, they say at the center of earth is a "sun" shining on the inside crust layer, with gravity flipped other way . It could be that our gravity effects are also related to this inner "sun". All speculation, of course, but lots of legends about inner earth, and may even be the original location of a "Garden of Eden", or even "Shangri-La" perhaps
Hmm. Well, I don't think either relativity or quantum theory would fit with your idea, so you'd need to reinvent physics. I understand that's what the "aether" is all about, and I concede the possibility there is an aether, but I think you're left with electromagnetism with your primary force, and I don't see how an increase in size would equate to an increase in electromagnetic force without a corresponding increase in mass.
As for angular momentum, it seems like that would work for the people living inside this "hollow earth" provided the "gravity" is pulling them towards the outer layer of the crust. The people on the outside, like you and me, would be thrown into outer space. We still need some force pulling us in.
I get the fascination with all this; I share it. It's interesting to look into and the stories are fun, but in order to throw out good reasoning and science I need more than legends and stories.
I'm not saying there's nothing to the hollow earth, but I got to see more.
Fair enough, I was just throwing out there a bunch of possibilities I was thinking. I think the main "expanding earth" proponents have a better explanation than my understandings given here, I will have to go back and check on that.
I think part of the problem is, we don't really understand gravity enough to say if it is pushing OR pulling on us, or even a combination of the two, like a north pole and south pole magnetic force with a zero field at it's center(bloch wall). I think you are absolutely correct in thinking of gravity related to electromagnetism .A larger earth still gives more angular momentum for an electromagnetic "generator". There is also lots of interesting "electric universe" possibilities going on too. I am a long time student of Tom Bearden's work, and he says gravity is an electromagnet pulsing "scalar" wave, and Mass is an electromagnetic standing scalar wave .Think in terms of cymatics may be the best way to visualize the universe this way, check out starting at the 4min 16sec mark:
I don't think expanding earth people really talk about it being hollow though, I think it just made sense to me seeing it expand while familiar of hollow earth legends. It is all interesting dective story, and all the clues may be out there for us to find the truth...... Another thing I find interesting in all this too, is the ancient Gnostic story of the wisdom Goddess "Sophia" that turns into the earth :
https://www.metahistory.org/GAIA%20SOPHIA/FallenGoddess.php
I don't know about the Sophia thing, but the cymatics is interesting. I think I'm on the same page as you regarding how much we really understand about physics and gravity, though.
It always amazes me that otherwise brilliant people are blind to the fact that thousands of brilliant people have come before them thinking they had everything figured out only to be proven wrong later.
The hollow earth theory is more fascinating that the flat earth one. :) Also, it's completely nuts but, some say that some nazis (Vril) have escaped to Aldebaran. :)
Oooh- a completely different theory. Excellent stuff, man. This is the next one I check out...thank you very much for sharing this with everyone, davyoneness!
I wouldn't call it 'excellent'..
hahahaha never forget the nazi's!
I like to think that we live in a incubator in a closet somewhere. Some creatures 7th grade science project. At the end of the day, it's all about the human experience anyways.
Hahaha, you're somewhere there with Elon Musk, who open believes we live in a "Matrix-like" computer :D
I'm a 100% simulation theory. Also some say we are just consciousness in God's mind. Reality changes all the time or we just shift through realities. But hey where I come from, I used to put Tobasco and not Tabasco in my gumbo.
I've spent years researching this.. it's either flat or a series of planes/dimensions and we are only able to see a few... Look out the window extensively when you fly next time and study how the plane turns in relation to the ground... it's pretty obvious it's not a f'in ball lmao. Also i've climbed 14,000 ft mountains and shyt looks flat as a fkin pancake from up there lol
not you as well. ffs. i'm really getting sick of explaining this to people but i'm going to copy/paste/edit my response to another flatearther here on steemit.
get on a boat and sail towards a lighthouse from about 30miles away. you can determine the exact distance at which the light will become visible using an equation based on the pythagorean theorem, which takes into account the height of the light above sea level, the height of your eyes above sea level, and the curvature of the SPHERICAL earth. when you get to this calculated distance from the lighthouse the light will pop into view. before you get close enough you can often see the beam of light reflected from any mist/fog/clouds as it sweeps around. only when you get to the distance denoted by the equation will the light itself come into view. THE CURVATURE OF THE EARTH BLOCKS IT FROM YOUR SIGHT. you live on a ball.
you can experience the curvature first hand by getting out on the sea. it isn't a disc.
another proof is radio waves. radio waves travel in straight lines as does light, both being forms of EM radiation. a handheld 2way VHF radio used on a small yacht will not be able to communicate with another boat if it is more than 4 or 5 miles away because the horizon blocks the line of sight between the transmitting and receiving radios. no matter how much power you pump into the transmitter the other boat will remain out of range. UNLESS you raise the antenna to a higher position, thus increasing the distance to the visible horizon, and so bringing the receiving radio into a clear line of sight that is not blocked by the CURVED EARTH.
Nice Comment. Its hard to detect the curvature from your trailer park:)
Unsubscribed from your youtube...smh
The 'Flat Earth' conspiracy is a psyop from the CIA, Clif High has spoken about it...
a psyop designed so we all find ourselves having to constantly remind and explain to people that we live on a globe... if we're all out shouting "WE LIVE ON A GLOBE" then we're sort of promoting a central part of their one world (globalist)government agenda for them... flatearthers just being used to force us to reinforce a global political perspective...
You make a good point! I think that Mr Globalists reach is definitely that far...
Let me tell you something: The earth is not flat. It is a sphere. Just like the sun and the moon. What happens when you release a drip of liquid in space? Turns into a sphere. It is just nature mate... why would the earth be flat? Can't believe I am even wasting time adressing the subject, it is just without any sense.. I'm still trying to figure out if flat earthers are just trolling or just mental.. NASA is full or lies and secrets, yes. 9/11 was a scam, sure. Alien base on the moon, why not? But no, the damn earth is not flat dude, that just doesn't make sense..
Bruh when was the last time you were in space dripping liquids and watching them turn into spheres? Lmaooooooo
Another thing. If you take a boat and go west from France you go to USA. If you go east and drive through Russia you also get at USA. How can this be possible without the earth being a sphere?
Seriously I even feel dumb by responding about this subject. Can we just agree on the fact that the earth isn't flat and close this discussion for ever?
Here you go, bruh
The earth is not flat. There are such loads of data that proves the spherical earth, that it is ridiculous to think otherwise. These types sit in their parent's basement chewing on pencils and watching conspiracy youtube videos. They are sad people without critical thinking abilities.
Has anyone here watched The Principle? It's really good and has a lot to do with this. I'm a flat earther, and basically anything "gravity" does can be explained with buoyancy and density. There is no evidence of a curve. Gravity is an unproven theory, and oceans sticking to a spinning ball requires it.
The Principle is good, and so is their longer one Journey to the Center of the Universe. One can learn much from their perusal (and animations!) of the ether drift experiments and the imposition of relativity, but they also avoid that which counters their hypothesis, such as data indicating the CMB is caused by Earth's water content and is not a remnant of some mythical Big Bang. I respect their work but don't agree with their conclusions.
Watch the video I posted here, it shows a buoyancy experiment on a plane performing a microgravity maneuver which directly counters your claim. While gravity can't be explained its effects can definitely can be calculated and engineered, claiming it doesn't exist because the theory isn't proven is a logical fallacy.
https://steemit.com/flatearth/@alkemix/super-ultimate-flat-earth-debunkification
Curvature is measured and seen daily, even thought the flat earth hypno-vids keep claiming the opposite. Check all your facts before making claims!
Gravity is an unproven theory? Let me help you there: grab your phone and throw it as high as you can. What happens? Did it come back? If so, gravity is proven. You are welcome.
sorry but that's just density, the phone is denser than the surrounding air. Why is gravity needed there. And how do you explain helium balloons, does gravity have some weird aversion to helium? Everything can be explained with density and buoyancy, gravity is only needed to make water stick to a spinning ball. Which would mean water would curve, which it doesn't. Nice try though.
How can it be dark in New York City and there be daylight in San Francisco with a flat Earth?
Excellent question- one I still ask myself. There's literature out there to find, and that's what I'll be looking up when I so choose to dig deeper.
Maybe you should be able to answer it before you make yourself look like an idiot publicly?
It can't, because these people have no logic.
you really can't use your imagination to picture ANY way this could be possible without the earth being round? lol...
I mean I guess the Earth could be a rotating 2-D plane (like a treadmill) but different locations having different sun angles in comparison to the horizon would seem to debunk this. The viewpoint given in video doesn't appear to address this issue. But I wonder why I need to use my imagination when the proposed theory (flat Earth) doesn't address this issue. Sure I could be wrong, but my evidence appears to contradict said theory.
There are a lot of misunderstandings of flat earth theory. When you try to apply globe principles to flat earth it makes it hard to grasp. In flat earth, the sun is a much smaller, closer object than in the globe model.
A couple non-NASA sources for images of Earth from space:
Himawari 8 (ひまわり8号?) is a Japanese weather satellite, the 8th of the Himawari geostationary weather satellites operated by the Japan Meteorological Agency. Himawari-8 Imagery - daily full disk true color images of Earth from Space, and much more: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/himawari-8.asp
The Russians released in 2012 what they say is the most high resolution image of Earth from space:
http://planetsave.com/2012/05/16/russia-releases-highest-resolution-satellite-images-of-planet-earth-ever-video/
Going to have to disagree with you on this one!!!
Flat Earth is dead to anyone with a functioning intellect who takes the time to review all the evidence. If you rely on flat earth videos you will only be provided false and misleading information.
Here is a new video just released today, but one I've corresponded with the maker for a couple years in sharing info.
https://steemit.com/flatearth/@alkemix/super-ultimate-flat-earth-debunkification
Have a watch, if you think you still have an argument that will withstand scrutiny I'll be most happy to joust it out in the intellectual arena to reach a point of intelligent comprehension :)
P.S. I upvoted you for bringing up the talking point!
I'm with you. I've been on flat earth for a few months now. It's crazy stuff. Nasa is definitely full of shit
the fed owns nasa. Nasa is and always has been plain horse shit.
@crypt0 Do remember seeing this in Miami Beach? Alton/9th.
is it true that truly some people who believe the earth is flat XD?
Are you serious?
https://steemit.com/flatearth/@flatearth/finding-the-curve-einar-kuusk-flat-earth-documentary
Neutral comment:
i hope commercial space traveling will happen soon so we finally can have a definite answer.
( One of those programs that could bring commercial space travel is Virgin Galactic: http://www.virgingalactic.com/ )
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Some intresting arguments but more of them was not. Im sorry.
What if we create our own reality through our own perceptions. What if for centuries we believed that the earth and other planets are round, and gravity exists or whatever else goes into this belief system. So as humans we act and talk and teach based on these ideas and live in a way that proves these ideas until the next big idea comes around, and maybe it gains traction and becomes the new standard of belief.
So now we act, talk and teach in a way that further proves this new belief standard but nothing is ever fully proven. The earth being round and gravity exists, the earth being flat, none of these are ever fully proven. There will always be evidence against something and so once the next big idea comes around and becomes the standard we will look back and think we were stupid to think that other idea. Maybe in a few centuries people will be saying the earth is actually a cube shape, I don't know.
So this just happens again and again and we constantly think we have existence figured out but there will always be new things and new beliefs and theories and nothing will ever be definite. We will actively be creating existence through what we choose to believe, and there may just be large societies like the Free Masons who have a control over what we believe but they will never have complete 100% control because humans will always be curious.
Just a thought, im not fully committed to this
We do create our own reality, but there is a plane called 'template reality' in where universal laws are defined. There might be some universe where planets are cubes, pancakes, they might even look like a lollypop, but in the universe we live in the laws of gravity work in a way that our planets over time become sphrere. Grab a telescope and look at the moon, it's flat? No! And neither is our earth.
Seriously, some people go to far into the conspiracy theory realm.
How can you tell the moon isn't flat with a telescope? Ive taken dozens of videos and hundreds of photos with a P900 and there's nothing indicating whether it's round or flat.
Yo crypt0 when will you change your logo lol
I just wrote my own post on the subject. I believe in the truth, spherical earth, but the post is more about asking questions and opening up to the flat earthers to give them a chance to properly answer the questions I put forth.
Might be worth your time to observe the answers if I get any!
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Thanks for posting this Omar. I was always wondering why there's not much more info about Antarctica. Because its cold? Yeah right! In 1962 a group of Australian researches found this http://www.genesis-antarctica.com/genesis-antarctica-haakon-urns/
below the ice and they translated it and this trilogy
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30549539-genesis-antarctica
is the part of it. Have a read, I found it really interesting.
Cheers
World class....very informative!
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Great video!