It's difficult to ignore all the approved proposals are from the same people who are the top witnesses and also often have the top trending articles.
When stake backs you, it backs you everywhere you go.
Seems they need to make a concerted effort to listen to a few people outside of the circle.
However, I love your thoughts on vision and how do you weigh the value of something if you don't know where you are going.
Thanks WU. I'm not too surprised about the top witnesses getting their proposals through, there's a reason they're top witnesses, and that's because the stake trusts their competence. It would worry me more if they weren't getting approved, then I would have to figure out why. As long as they're doing what they say they are, I have no complaints. Time will tell, but if they're not doing what they're getting paid for, I suspect they'll lose even more than their proposal funding.
I agree mostly with that, however it seems odd they are the only ones doing anything as it seems like some different skill sets would also be valued.
Or it continues to be a project run by developers and techies, which so far hasn't worked out that well.
I will say that it wasn't due to people not being welcomed to help.. just gonna he honest..in a room full of 100+ people and a few posts inviting anyone who wanted to get involved (many “unknowns” were added due to their response there) - it was still only a few doing the work. I understand how it can look maybe like a closed loop, but I think there was actually quite a decent shake in the top witnesses and some people stepped up more than others. We are seeing the response to that I believe.
Imo this should become more decentralized overtime and we need to make a conscious effort to do so, but at the end of the.. not many people want to do the work when it's easier to just get the easy rewards etc.
I hope this improves and we as a community have the tools needed, or the base layer set up, that allows anyone who wants to to contribute. But yes, I think many are there due to work they did to launch Hive. The three devs proposals I'm voting for anyways are for that reason, as they are the ones working.
I've been watching the debate about your proposal carefully. Not the who did what arguments, because I wasn't there and didn't see that.
However, I am very interested to see if PR and Exchange work will be recognized and valued and if people are willing to assign a monetary value to that... and pay for it.
I would argue at this point that was the most meaningful effort impacting the price and visibility of Hive.
The developers could have made a quiet copy and no one would have cared and very frankly that is exactly what I expected.
I can't prove it, but I would say 90% of the value increase in both Steem and Hive have been directly related to PR and exchange listings. (say the name)
Good luck on your proposal, regardless of the who did what... when, it would provide evidence that things might really be different on Hive.
I'm just not that interested in relaunching my interest in watching development fiddle with internal development topics.
Oh, thank you. I didn’t really mean me here and most definitely will say that I hadn’t meant to cause such a debate or the crazy back and forth that had followed, but agree we need to find a way to compensate non devs contributions etc.
My comment above mostly was just trying to be open about the fact that many were given an opportunity to be involved and chose not to.
As I agree with this and that including more people with different skill sets etc can only add more value to Hive. Imo we have a diverse community here and if we can somehow find a way to encourage them to contribute, then everyone benefits.
I just wanted to simply say those who are currently being compensated from the DHF are those who stepped up to do the work, when others would not.
So totally agree with you we need to work on being more open, I guess I’ve also just accepted that sometimes it’s the same few involved as they are the ones stepping up. I personally hope that continues to improve.
Go away cunt.
Aw, you and those mean words.
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No fucking shit. When you have a select few virtual signalling greed filled cocksuckers who only listen to themselves and people with HUGE WALLETS, then NOBODY will believe the fucking bullshit that comes from these peoples mouths. Then people wonder why there is a retention problem? Because people who come here are not fucking stupid. They have eyes and can see how the REAL show is run.
WORDS are futile, when the actions don't reflect the words. So many bullshit artist salesmen on here, with pure self-interest and nothing else, sit at the top of the tree here, that it will just be a never ending bunch of circle-jerking between "friends". It's a complete joke, and if anyone has a different "opinion", they are banished to the naughty corner if they are not an "approved" member of the "approved" circle-jerks. But nobody wants to talk about how that's all this place really is. Let's all stick our heads in the sand and point fingers everywhere else except for the obvious places.
It will be a dead zone, built for the benefit of devs and large stakeholders to milk from the gullible. That's what it really is now, and it's all it will ever be, because of the arrogance of a few.
Just look at some of the responses in here. Nothing more needs to be said.