decentralization and DHF voting, as his reply on my comment had exactly the title of this post inside! But, his words made my brain calculate and connect some dots from my previous experiences, and here we are... Let me plant a small seed in your head, and you can do whatever you want with it... 😃Firstly, I have to thank @alex-rourke for his last post where he wrote about
I don't want to go into discussions about the "glitch in the Matrix" when @blocktrades voted for the Return Proposal as many Hivians wrote about that a lot... Was that good or bad, right or wrong, positive or negative, I will let you decide for yourself... In my opinion, it did its job... It started a discussion about the elephant in the room... The system isn't good and it's time to discuss ideas and possible solutions... As it's not a question of A or B, but rather more complex, it should be broken into small pieces and we should pick the ideas to solve the puzzle...
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This post isn't about if the Return proposal is too big, or too small... It's not about which proposals are good or not... It's not about whether certain proposals ask too much money or not...
It is about the voter apathy! The first thing I noticed when the Return Proposal skyrocketed wasn't that many proposals got "defunded", but rather that ONE proposal stayed funded! IMO, that was a showcase that proposals CAN BE FUNDED even with a high Return Proposal... Even with a relatively small VOTING PARTICIPATION! But, the fact is... We need more active voters...
Why do people not vote on proposals?
I will tell you why I'm not voting... Because I don't like a certain proposal and I don't want to support it... But, that doesn't mean that I'm not an active voter, even though I didn't vote...
There was an idea to implement a "downvote" button for proposals, but I can't remember what was the reason to not do it... As I can see, it works well in Splinterlands and it could work well for DHF too! Also, that would be the solution for "counting" the REAL participation in voting, where I could downvote a proposal and be counted as an active voter!
Speaking of voter apathy, it is a thing... If you are not an Orca or Whale on HIVE, you could say that you are irrelevant for voting (Not true at all!) and skip voting... Also, as the Return Proposal was too low, some Hivians didn't care about voting as, anyway, a few big whales would make it pass... That's a huge demotivational effect that is very much visible on HIVE, especially when you read posts and comments on DHF topic...
The possible solution
The whole point of HIVE is to have an active, motivated, and incentivized community! When people are active and appreciated, they are more effective, and more productive, and the whole chain is healthier! Active people don't leave the chain, they contribute!
We need to incentivize the VOTING PROCESS! But, to do that, we need both voting options (upvote and downvote), and the incentive should be the same for either of the two actions! As I know, there is a specific amount of HIVE that needs to be paid for creating a DHF proposal... That amount could be part of the "incentive pool" for voters!
Just to clarify, I'm not that smart to get this idea... 🙂 Something similar exists on Jupiter aggregator (on Solana blockchain), where token stakers vote for specific proposals (just like we do with our HivePower)... Every quarter, those who have voted are rewarded for doing that with a small amount of staked JUP tokens (in our case, it could be HP)... Even if the incentive is small, it can trigger people to vote, to be more active!
Don't forget that HIVE is stronger when we have more active users!!!
What do you think about this idea and do you have your ideas on how we could improve DHF?
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A lot of defi protocols have an interesting way to distribute the funds according to the votes. I think downvoting would not even be necessary. We have all a vote regarding how the DHF is distributed and this vote depends on our stake. Now imagine that we have a 100% vote and then we can distribute it the way we want. 25% for project 1, 50% for project two and 25% for return proposal. Like that it would be much fairer because even whales couldn't vote for all proposals with their full vote. I agree that rewarding the voting activity would be quite good. A proposal of the DHF could simply distribute a part of its distribution to the people who drop their votes maybe also in relation with their voting power. This would be another incentive for holding hive power and in my opinion the whole voting process would be fairer.
That's a really great idea. This would certainly make things fairer.
I don't think a downvote will change much, I mean what I do is, vote for the return proposal and then vote the proposals I like, that's the same as downvote the proposals I don't like... You will tell me but with a downvote you can make them down even more, true but then it would be like a double malus for the downvoted proposal, not very balanced... The problem is the proxy vote, people just don't bother checking proposals and proxy vote, like blocktrades he has tons of proxy vote because people blind follow
Maybe I could add this: We should vote several times in favor of the proposal. At least once more, halfway through the proposal. The proposers of the proposal should also, at least halfway through the project, report back on what is happening.
If voters had a reason (if they get a prize), at least at the end of the project, they would certainly be more active because it is in their interest to do so.
And for the witnesses, I would put the vote every six months. We need to speed things up or get the members more active.Thanks for the news. This is a good idea you have here, and I support it. I agree with @achim03, too.