Is it just me, or is the feed slow today? I think some of the autovoters are down, so perhaps people are holding back their best content creating selves for tomorrow, to get more of those sweet, sweet rewards.
It is always interesting when things like this happen to autos, as people seem to feel like they "wasted their time" if they posted and didn't collect the usual rewards on their post and those that notice, don't post - yet, perhaps it is a better time to post, since there might be less in the feed and therefore more chance to getting seen - though how crappy is it to have to rely on manual voters? Lol - it ain't that bad.
Most people don't seem to remember the days of bidbots very clearly, where forty-odd percent of the voting stake was being called to around one percent of the content through paid voting. Trending was a quagmire of shit that was literally taking in thousands of dollars every week, yet actually only getting about 5-10 percent of the rewards after the purchase of the vote itself. Thankfully, the introduction of the EIP put a stop to most of that, as paid votes were easy to put into a loss position by trimming that five or ten percent off with downvotes.
Then, with the introduction of the 50/50 rewards instead of 75 for the author, it was no longer viable for the delegator to delegate, since they could earn about the same just by manual curation or autovoting without the risk of getting their targets downvoted out of their curation return. While a lot of people were really against these changes, the platform is in far better shape than it was and the content creators that are actually putting in their effort consistently are far more likely to e found and find more consistent support - often through autovoting.
Of course, you don't generally see people who benefit from autovoters complain about them, but that is the case in everything. When one group is benefitting more than another, the one at the "disadvantage" will complain, often without ever considering why there is a difference. On Hive, while it is far from perfect, in general the platform actually does a pretty good job considering that there are no algorithms involved for sorting and it is all up to individuals making decisions.
It is the way of the future and it will improve greatly as more people get involved across the entire internet. At the moment, people are still hostages on the centralized platforms, encouraged to create for the "state" in the hope that the state will provide something in return or allow them to keep their position. Though as we have seen, the state is only willing to support those who support it and any threat to its powers is met with a trip to the demonetized gulag of shadowbanning, algorithm throttling and account deletion.
But, Hive is broken.
Decentralization isn't easy, yet people expect that every day it is going to be consistently how they expect it to be, no hiccups. However, it is vastly improved here and is going to continue to over time, as more and more of the worlds smartest developers start feeling themselves increasingly constrained on the centralized platforms by legislation and culture compliance and start moving into the opensource and transparent playground of the blockchains and cryptos.
People haven't quite got it yet that crypto and blockchain are a hand-in-hand ecosystem that allows people to own their digital property and monetize it in environments that aren't subject to the centralized opinions, whilst having rules that all are subject to through things like smart contracts. It is funny when people say "it isn't fair" when *everyone on this blockchain is treated Absolutely equally by the blockchain itself - what differs however is what the individual may be doing, and how they are doing it.
Life isn't fair though, which is why we have so much variation between us which is brought into our very genes. While a lot of people seem to like the idea of "equality" the fact of nature is that equality is a risk, as when everything is the same, it is going to be killed uniformly. The reason that no virus has killed us all yet, is because our genetics are diverse, but if it was something that targeted killed us based on a genetic marker that we all had, we would all die, unless completely isolated from contagion.
People want fair outcome too though, which would be the worst of all worlds, over-rewarding people who don't deserve it, by under-rewarding people that do. And then what? Even if we were all for example financially equal today, an economy works based on the decisions of its participants, so unless we all do the exact same thing, which would kill the economy anyway, the first rounds of decisions made would put us on uneven footing again immediately.
But on Hive, there is the idea that everyone can earn, yet the telephone line is broken and what people end up hearing is that everyone should earn on Hive. This is not the case, nor would anyone actually want to see the volume pf scam and spam this platform holds earning anything at all, let alone anything significant. The "can" earn isn't a guarantee to will earn, it is essentially a challenge to an individual to say, give it a go, see what you can do.
Many inevitably fail at doing anything significant, because while this is a diverse ecosystem, it isn't as diverse as the entire global economy. You might be the best welder on earth, it doesn't mean people are goin to upvote your content, unless what you deliver is what they are willing to upvote. A lot of people expect to be rewarded, even though they are not delivering content that people actually enjoy.
Sure, they might have a subset of people who like it, but since this is knowingly a stake-based platform, without stake voting, there is no reward. And, while some people believe that the large stakeholders on the platform are all into the same thing, it isn't actually the case anymore and there is a very wide selection of content that gets rewarded, some even consistently.
What is interesting is that with all of the complaints about voting, reward and broken autovoters, the thing is that this is an opt-in platform and no one is forced to try or stay on Hive. Literally zero people have to stay here, yet most people also know that here they actually have more opportunity to earn something than they have on pretty much any other platform around. The amount of crap that is earning something here is very high and none of that crap would earn anything of note anywhere else. Nothing.
But, what is also interesting is that this place is what we actually make it and a lot of the future is going to be driven by mindset. While the negative people may always be negative and leave or complain forever on chain, it will be the positive people who will drive change and evolve the platform through the building of applications projects and their support.
Not everyone is able to build, but everyone is able to support their position in some way. You can vote with your words, your wallet or your feet - no one is forced to vote on your content, no matter how good it is. But if you think it has more value elsewhere, you would have to question if it is worth posting here at all. As someone who believes in the future of blockchain, crypto and a decentralized economy, I'm posting exactly where I need to post, and acting exactly where I need to be - even if I could earn more elsewhere.
Those autovoters up yet? No?
What a waste of all these words....
Taraz
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At least when I posted earlier today the autovoting was still up and running. There are some folks who never adjusted their settings after the last hard fork so they’re in effect still playing the old reward curve game that no longer exists.
Otherwise, it’s really hard to tell if votes I get are auto or manual. I don’t get a ton of comments so often have no way to tell if folks have actually read my meanderings.
Over time, we’ll get more and more ghost voting from people who configured autovoting and then died. What a morbid thought…
Maybe a vote decay system for bots is needed, similar to witness voting decay?
There are a couple different voting services. I think hive.vote is down?
Yes - I get votes from @wolfhart still - Someone I still miss :/
Perhaps it makes for some interesting dynamics in the future. Though I suspect that if it did become a problem, the services would correct it.
I couldn't be more along your thinking here.
No way that your reward are guaranteed... that shouldn't prevent no one from creating their best content ever.
We have, along these past years, evolved from an crazily volatile environment into a more balanced ecosystem, eager to evolve, more focused in developing a stronger framework to build upon. There's no other way to drive through in my opinion.
Rewards may vary depending a great deal on numerous variables like if they were the waves on the vast ocean.
Are we also liquid and volatile as our world? or, are we somwhat recognizable, each one so differently?
Yet it does. "Why would I be my best for only...?"
It is a mindset problem and not the mind of an owner.
A synonym for volatility could also be opportunity. With total stability, there is nothing that can be done.
Every post is like showimg others bits of yourself.
In a competitive society like ours you have to sell your content the best possible way in order to be rewarded, would that reward fit your expectations?, probably not.
It's a brave ocean that of the volatility, oportunity and risk suf together...
Even if the price of our currency is "low" it is still convenient to publish here and "earn little" instead to publish in another centralized network where the reward for your time, effort and content is zero.
Yes and even without any reward, it is far more useful to be part of a community in an emerging technology, than a community in a dying one.
It's sad how to see that this platform runs around "how much can I earn" and then the frustration when coin value is low or "not having enough votes". It's not the case with all creators or course but quite a few it seems like.
Yeah, people will "hold off" posting until the autovoters are back up, because they don't want to waste the little bit of inspiration and creativity they could mange :) I don't care, I post anyway :P
Hahaha savage 😂 keep it going!
It's funny because it is true.
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What a great ending. Wasted words. I did not know the auto voters were down, what a wasted opportunity, oh well, I just woke up from a nap and that was fun to read. One of the most liked whiny post rants I ever read. Some people from other platforms just do not get it. You try to help, but the words are wasted. People think they put ten years in on the centralized networks and that they should have an instant following on a new platform. If they try for a year, their tune would change, but they are likely not to give it the time they need, or to make the changes needed to suit a new potential audience.
It is funny isn't it? Considering their "followers" are not theirs at all, they are the platforms. Just like their content and ability to earn.
They are earning elsewhere, so they end up just dumping their replicated posts here in the hope to earn, but they aren't used to engaging or learning, since algorithms have handled that for them on the other platforms. They will eventually learn, or be demonetized by changing consumer culture.
When the idea of 50/50 reward sharing between curators and authors was floated back then, I remember being against it. There's no denying the obvious incentive it gave curators though, and the place is in a much better shape than those early days.
Even I will like to become a full time curator at some point if possible, and holding makes more sense the higher your stake
The EIP was a three-pronged approach and now with the curve gone, there is even more incentive to curate what we love.
Good thing I don't get a lot of autovotes! I was out of service for a day or two and so, when I got back and saw the price of Hive, I knew it would be not so busy on here.
But, I also knew I could depend on you. I bit on the top post, but, the adorable shot of SmallSteps below this post has me wanting to sew this comment up and see what is up with her post. :))
I hope auto gets back up for you and everyone else! I'll go work on a post and see if I can scape up a dollar in this down day. Have a great night!
As I have said before, writing is part of my daily process and the rewards are a bonus that I appreciate greatly. as it gives me the opportunity to create more. Incentives matter, but rewards still have to be earned.
I don't mind when the autos are down - as surprisingly to some, I do have active readers and voters too :D
Of course, I was kidding. :)) I love Hive, I really do. I won't say the rewards aren't cool, but, it is like a bonus on top of your regular paycheck.
I never pay attention to the autos actually as most of my posts are scheduled while I am working. No cell phones at work, so it cuts my time down on here, so I spend my time wisely. :))
You have lots of active readers and voters! We adore your wit and charm. ;)
Oh. Thanks Taraz. Now I feel better, here I thought I just put out a couple shitty posts...
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Self confidence..? Not Me.
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Every time I look at my voting power, I see it is near 100% again. I am dumping larger and larger votes on people every several hours. I am making lots on curation for the last couple months so I hope that continues.
I don't know about many of you out there, but I am here to accumulate crypto currency. It will all be worth ten times what today's dollar amount shows. This beats buying crypto!
I have my hand up for this too. I don't go into fiat and hope I never really have to. Though I guess at some point, I will pay some IRL debts if I must, but at that point, I could possibly pay with crypto too :)
Hello @pdq if you were interested in joining a curation trail I run one for the last 4 years called informationwar over on hive.vote
We upvote politics/news/informationwar/deepdives and a bunch of other tags and communities. We have a post in our Bio over on @informationwar of what we are all about. If you want to delegate to @informationwar or join the informationwar curation trail we are constantly upvoting daily so that. If you followed it or delegated to us we would be using the HP very well so that we spread the votes out between a lot of people.
Thanks for reading :)
I had to check after you said that, I guess it is a bit? But then again I don't think too many of the people I follow are active. And once again I haven't had much of a chance to get out to communities and tags so I have no idea there XD
It's not necessarily the telephone line, from conversations I have had with people, it doesn't matter how clear and explicit you are, some people will summarily ignore anything and everything that isn't what they want to hear.
That sounds like it would be an equal outcome rather than a fair one XP
The autovoters were down? Did that get fixed? I know some people that would probably be upset if they felt their daily voting power was getting wasted :S
And then wonder why they get left behind :D
Yes, that is true. I should edit it .. but I am too lazy! :D Fair is never possible either though, unless it is completely lawless with the rule of the jungle the only law. I don't think anyone wants that either - I wouldn't last long at least.
Yeah. Some people are so away from here, they won't know til payout days :)
Given that the concept of "fair" varies so wildly between (and within!) people I don't think it's something that's easy to codify anyway x_x
Right, I did notice as well that autovting has not been working since yesterday.
I remember the bid-bots days. Those bots would upvote your post less than the HIVE/HBD (STEEM/SBD then) you sent them to get upvote. Morever, some wouldn't upvote your post, and sometimes it was not possible to find a respondent to get your fund back.
I think bid-bots still continue on Steemit.
Steemit is a shithole - you should consider not being there.
ja right now a lot of people are leaft the platform, thinking in the prices are down and it is not necesary continued, but a lot of us know the importance about how important is the constance, every day we need to think about my contents and the tomorrow too.
Well respect the bidbot, thank lord that there leaft, but is good because a lot of people enjoy curating great contents, hope this platform would be a resourse very usesful for people not only writte for get money.
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it is funny that the prices are down and are still up 500% on the year :D
I think if people actually wrote more without thinking of reward, they would produce better content and get more reward....
If i was whale upvoter ,prefer to upvote the content manually instead auto because all the contents are not worth of and sometimes Author post shity and valueless content on hive blockchain. Earning rewards is fine but atleast should fair to all original content creators like how you do.
I disagree with you for a couple reasons. Firstly, generally the whales are pretty proactive in manual voting or who they put autos on, as well sa some have different "automations" like having curation initiatives call their votes on content. Secondly, if you have a 200 dollar vote 10x a day, how many posts are you going to be able to read and give an adequate number to? Will you read 10 and give them all 200 each? Do you think there are ten posts that deserve that each day?
Hmm.Thats also true what you replied .Whales always lazy pig for voting manually but They are Brilliant with brain who always trust original contents.
I think autovote is not good for any platform. It can discourage the small but quality content writter.
It actually should encourage them, as if they prove themselves, they are able to get more consistent support.
It all depends on the intensity of people on their work. As you say that people are different, so it is also with posting. Some would put great effort into their posts to ensure quality and others post for posting sake. For some that are not technically enclined, their posts are the only means to try and create better lives for themselves and the breakdowns are always unnerving especially when they have set targets that they want to reach.
But in saying this it should always be expected and one should compromise for the mishaps.
Your words were not wasted here, as many appreciate them.
I didn't notice autovoter was down until I voted some posts and another trail stopped following it. Then, others told me the same. I also read something about hive price down and this person said he didn't like it, a new user from what I gather because I was on my lovesniper round. It's unfortunate that some people think that way but eh, it has always been like that, isn't it? the posting frequency match up the price.
From my journey here, I learned a lot about how blockchain works and how decentralized economy would be. I would say it's one of the best hands on experience one can do to get into cryptocurrency, mainly since it has 0 fees, somewhat easy to set up, and other advantages. Even when I know that I could make more elsewhere, which I did before but being here, is exactly where I need to be.
Yeah, truely. The Idea that you brought up here is actually makes sense, not all the quality posts receive upvotes but posts which entertain people and enable others to learm something useful does produce upvotes, empirically.
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