Are We Right In Treating Cryptocurrency Like We Do Stocks?

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The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) classified cryptocurrency as security. Many in the industry take exception to this. One is Ripple who is still engaged in a multi-year legal battle with the agency. A ruling is expected this year, carrying with it a range of implications.

Is the SEC wrong to view cryptocurrency as a security? Isn't that exactly how we treat it? Do we not approach it in a similar manner as stocks?

We often see words such as "mooning" and "Lambos" tossed around. People are flocking to cryptocurrency. Are they doing that because they want a payment system outside the establishment? That is not likely. Instead, people are entering, buying cryptocurrency in an effort to generate a return. Most want to buy, say, Bitcoin at one price and sell it higher.

In this regard, how is it much different than most approach stock? Isn't that exactly what people are doing in the market? While there might be the odd person who buys a share in Apple or Tesla simply to say he or she owns it, most want to make money. It appears cryptocurrency is the same way.

Of course, stocks have few properties as a medium of exchange. Again, you can find the odd case where it will be transferred but, for the most part, stock is bought and sold. Cryptocurrency can be used as a medium of exchange yet rarely is. HODLing is more commonplace.

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"Ownership"

There are some other interesting properties to cryptocurrency. Those at the base layer do carry a degree of "ownership". Since many are tied to governance, each token carries a certain amount of influence. This is akin to voting rights with stock. Obviously, one has more impact the greater the amount held.

We see a similar situation resulting in the second layer tokens. Many of these are tied to projects. Just like at the blockchain level, a lot of tokens have governance tied to them. For that reason, people can have some type of influence over the direction of the project. Of course, to be a noticeable player one needs significant stake.

Using this framework, it is not unreasonable for people to expect a long-term gain. If a project, or blockchain, starts to thrive, it is sensible that the market pushes the price higher. After all, if the value is growing, the market ought to reflect that at some point. It is no different than a stock price continually heading higher as a company profits grows and expands.

This is also an unavoidable outcome. As the Network Effect starts to take hold, a common trait in the digital world, the value of things only grows. Basically, it is impossible to stop. There is the simple supply and demand equation. As more people are involved, the availability of tokens is lessened. Trying to spread a similar number of tokens among more people means that something has to give. When growth exceeds the inflation rate, there is no choice but for price to increase.

Under this scenario, liquidity means nothing. In fact, it is a hindrance. No wonder the industry simply gravitates towards token burns. Less tokens available means a higher price if the demand remains the same. From the ownership perspective, this makes sense. Of course, it can negate the entire premise of utility if liquidity is too tight. Monetary equilibrium is really not considered in cryptocurrency.

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Mediums of Exchange

Not all tokens fall under this mindset. We saw the emergence of stablecoins as an alternative to the HODLer concept. Here there is no incentive to hold a stablecoin unless placing it on some platform that pays a return. Naturally, this is no different than putting fiat currency is in type of interest yielding asset.

At the native level, there is no reason to hold a stablecoin other than the store of value. Since volatility is the enemy, as the name denotes, stablecoins aim to remain pegged to something else, usually the USD. In this instance, it is an ideal more during the risk-off periods.

They are also very easy to engage in commerce. Since the value is within a much tighter range, merchants can easily accept them. The likelihood of a stablecoin dropping 20% overnight not probable. That is not true for many cryptocurrencies.

It can be said that stablecoins are taking on the properties of money. They are a strong medium of exchange and, more importantly, are being used as such. Most cryptocurrency is not. So even if it does have that characteristic, if few are utilizing it for that purpose, does it even matter?

Of course, there are many nuances to an industry and not all tokens need to be the same. Some can fill one purpose while others take care of something else. The key is the overall construction of alternatives, not having one coin solve all issues. In fact, it is probably impossible for this to happen. There are simply to many factors when dealing with global economic conditions and, in turn, needs.

For now, the medium of exchange is not a major focus by the industry. Some of the stablecoin players are pushing ahead. However, when we look at the overall development and individual activity, it appears to be in the minority.

In the end, people are going to follow what they see others doing. Since most of the crypto world is treated like stock, it is only sensible for others who join the party to do the same. We are creature that mirror each other in many ways.

When a particular token, outside the stablecoins, have low volatility and moves sideways in a range, that is viewed as a negative. Who wants to own a token that goes nowhere? It is considered a bad move. After all, if the price does not move, there is no return.

Hence the stock viewpoint. It is now a basic part of the cryptocurrency world. It is how we view things and it is not going to change.

What are your thoughts on this? Let us know in the comment section below.


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At the pace this whole thing is moving this speculation on crypto and the speculative side of cryptocurrency will fade away in a few years when utility is going to matter more. That's when probably 90% of the alts that we have right now are going to be nothing more than dead projects.

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Agreed, perhaps coins that have utility will be impacted as well, but due to the fact that they generate utility and have low to no transactions fees they will stay alive until it becomes more and more accepted up to the point that the U.S. Dollar and the EURO will have to bow in front of this new "internet-cloud-based" currency that is immune to any territorial/country jurisdiction and hence reducing the likelihood of these so called "developed countries" to impose sanctions and monetary restrictions over other weaker and smaller ones.

A lot of things will end up going by the wayside just like the ICO.

It is a process that we have to go through.

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Many cryptocurrencies with utility and governance votes are in an interesting hybrid situation. Just like electrons act both similar to waves and to particles, but not completely like either one, tokens behave both like stocks and currencies, but not completely like either one.

That is true there are both components possible yet how much of the currency aspect do we see? And more importantly how feasible is it if the price is bouncing around like a jumping bean?

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Are they doing that because they want a payment system outside the establishment? That is not likely.

What if I say yes?

To be honest, a new payment system would be awesome. And Hive have huge advantages in this. Fast and free transactions. There is literally zero transaction fee. Imagine directly paying for bread and for other foods with Hive and with Hive Dollars (HBD). This would be awesome. We would not even need to sell cryptocurrencies for fiat. We need businesses and stores/markets, which accepts direct cryptocurrency payments.

This could even eliminate the current (fiat) payment system in long term. People just/only have to take the first step, and the rest will come and go.

It would be amazing and there is a new payment system forming. But do you see that being the reason why many purchase Hive or Bitcoin or any other non-stablecoin? Most purchase those for the speculation.

Even you mentioned the use of HBD. I think that is a more viable payment mechanism as compared to $HIVE.

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I like the HBD. Especially its 12% APR interest nowadays. I put most of my HBD to savings, but not for speculation. I am saving it to be able to buy and live in an RV. My goal is approximately $3000 USD. Currently this is the cheapest RV in my country (in Hungary). I currently have $977 HBD in savings. If I assume that $1 HBD is $1 USD, then I need to earn/receive/collect approximately an additional $2023 HBD to reach this goal. Sounds like an achievable goal in the upcoming eight or nine months. If not, then I have to make another plan to be able to live properly. We will see. Maybe there will indeed be something better.

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It will keep growing and my guess is we see bit higher interest at some point. I would not be surprised if the witnesses move it up to 15% this year.

Keep filling the savings account.

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I think it's OK for cryptocurrency to be considered an asset like gold.

But I'm puzzled that crypto prices are correlated to the Nasdaq. The reason Facebook and Alphabet are falling is because historically rising interest rates hurt advertising revenue. But what on earth has that got to do with crypto?! It's a curse that crypto has been designated as "tech" by specurators, when it's digital cash/gold.

I think it is more the risk off trade more than anything else.

When there is uncertainty, we see people going to safer assets. This means high flying tech gets whacked, and so does crypto.

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I always find it interesting that entities like the SEC do not just denote it as 'cryptocurrency' instead of trying to apply a pre-existing and albeit arbitrary framework to it.

My perspective is that cryptocurrency is fundamentally different than all previous (and current) forms of currency so like the saying goes: Why try to hammer the square peg through a round hole?

It seems like a better idea to just widen the hole.

To be fair to them, they do have to operate within existing laws. The SEC does not write the laws and the Securities Act of 1934 (I believe that was the year) is what they have to go on.

That is why some are calling on Congress to get updated laws but, as we know, that is a battle and a half. Those clowns, especially in the Senate, have no idea what this is all about.

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Ah! That is all very true!

I agree they seem to be way out of their depth with understanding the most basic structure of cryptocurrency let alone how blockchains work.

It is a generational thing. There is no way around it.

I saw a lot of FUD about cryptocurrency but never from a Millennial. It was always one from the Silent or Boomer generation attacking it.

That shows me how much difference there is in the generations and how they think.

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Ha! I had not considered that too much.

To be fair I have seen an even amount of skepticism across generations but yeah I would have to agree with you that there is a generational component in what we are discussing with the laws and such.

I mean most of the actual FUD does come from the same folks that said email would never be useful, the internet itself (in its entirety) was a scam and numerous other highly laughable assertions lacking any substance... so yeah crypto fit the whole 'boogieman' narrative quite well.

That is true. They do not seem to want to acknowledge how slow they were to embrace things yet now are tasked with making laws about stuff they have no clue about.

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It's like the clowns anywhere know any better. All these clowns are doing is to protect their well being and the one of the ones paying them and nothing more.

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That is job 1

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I actually use the stock comparison when explaining crypto to those that are completely out of the loop.

It's like holding an Apple stock (minus the dividends) but with many benefits like payments, proof of ownership and much more. You can't pay me for work with a fraction of a stock but you can with crypto. As staking slowly becomes a norm in the industry then we can even have the dividend part.

In the end, people are going to follow what they see others doing. Since most of the crypto world is treated like stock, it is only sensible for others who join the party to do the same.

It always boils down to this. They will use it as they see fit but the best part is that there are so many use-cases that you can't even predict the ways crypto will be used in 5 or 10 years.

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It does simplify the explanation process, that is for sure. People understand stock so to them it makes sense. Of course, it also imprints the idea of speculation upon their minds too.

Alas, it simply how things are. We are likely to see two different types of major categories going forward. Much of crypto will be like stock, the rest (stablecoins) will be currency.

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Stable coins are safe ports for us.

Yes, I agree with this. Right or wrong that is how many of us view cryptocurrencies. I think even those of us who know they have more utility and are looking to take control of our own money still treat them that way from time to time. It is just very ingrained in us. It will take a while to shake that off. If we ever do. We have an uncanny habit of needing to compare things to other things we are familiar with to understand them.

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Perhaps it is not a wrong viewpoint. Maybe it is just part of the characteristics.

After all with governance of an ecosystem, there is an increase in value generated there over time. Or at least that possibility.

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Good point, there could be some assets that end up being mirrors of stocks and others that perform other functions. There is enough room for a little bit of everything in the world of blockchain I guess.

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There is enough room for a little bit of everything in the world of blockchain I guess.

As long as there is enough bandwidth. We need to be able to process a ton of transactions.

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The stablecoin are a problema yo the system normal, AND the bank industry do not Let that this could damage the monetary system, but the crypto are completely diferent because Is a Lot of people usesfull this as a money, for this reason this Time Is diferent.
We hope.

If I may voice my opinion about treating cryptos as stocks, there is something that's emerging recently, Decentralized Finance (DEFI) that's NOT available in stocks and allows the freedom to exchange cryptos without the need of going through a general market/regulations.

That is true and you can stake your crypto, something that you cannot do with stocks.

However, you can use stocks as collateral on loans just like with Bitcoin on some DeFi projects. So while centralized, it does have the asset property (Store of Value).

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I think it's a shame the industry is being boxed in like this.

Sure crypto is like a lot of financial instruments. However it's not a stock, bond, commodity, security. It's cryptocurrency. This is something entirely new. Something completely different. Although similar to other financial instruments in many ways, it is still much different then anything before it. Different enough to constitute a need for "special regulatory frameworks".

The SEC is simply protecting the "old guard" of traditional banking and finance. They are doing everything in their power to make life difficult for people involved in the crypto industry.

The crypto industry is about to disrupt everything in the financial sector and they know this. Control the money, control the world and they're about to lose control!

They shouldn't be lumping this in with existing regulations. They should be forming some type of coalition with industry leaders and figuring out a regulatory framework for this VERY important industry that's still in it's infancy. This is something completely new, and needs a new set of rules. THIS CHANGES EVRYTHING... and they know it!

We are wrong to treat crypto like anything that came before it. This is something completely new and completely different. They need to stop protecting an old out dated way of doing things, and step up to support the FUTURE of finance.

In the end, we're only hurting ourselves, because we'll see this industry move to other parts of the world with friendlier regulations. We've already seen exchanges "blacklist" supposedly free countries. We're already seeing major investors heading to friendlier shores for tax havens. It's just a matter of time until blockchain companies say screw this and move to friendly shores as well!

What's happening now is a half assed attempt to pretend like they're regulating the industry while trying to figure out how to stop it! That's my take at least.

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In a way, I think cryptos are very similar to stock but it might come with additional use cases. So I guess the store of value analogy fits perfectly.

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I think stable coins should be viewed as money but I honestly can't complain too much. In Aus earning crypto is classed as income and taxed at the income rate.

Taxes are a different situation. Earning is always taxed as income. As for gains on trading, any FOREX trader knows that currency swapping is a taxable event.

So I dont not think the taxing policy reflects the idea of money or not. Governments are going to tax anything they can so we have to come to expect that.

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Stock comes with voting rights. You cant vote with Bitcoin so it's not stock. Not even liquid HIVE is comparable to shares of a company imo because the price of a VEST in HIVE goes up

That is true it doesnt apply to PoW chains. But PoS (DPoS) is does.

As yes you have to stake. Not all shares of stock come with voting rights. Preferred stock often carries different parameters than common stock.

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*Since most of the crypto world is treated like stock, it is only sensible for others who join the party to do the same. *
I believe we mirror certain investors that is why we also get into crypto to invest like stock.

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I understand how Cryptocurrency can be compared to stocks. The thing I have noticed about cryptocurrency is I can't really find the person that controls it. For example Tesla there is a CEO and a Board of Directors that directly control the company.
Cryptocurrency like Bitcoin who controls it? In this way, I think it behaves more like a currency than common stock.