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RE: Leo Talk 5/7/21 - Come Join Our Chat (Part 1)

If you want to get some indepth conversation about the topic of aging and if it can be reversed, here is a good debate.

This is a field that is up in the air but does, according to many, hold great potential.

A podcast so can listen to it while commenting which is a bonus.

https://munkdebates.com/podcast/ageing

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Get a vampire to bite you. Problem solved!

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That is one approach and as valid as the theories of today.

The challenge with this one is finding a damn vampire. I guess that is a night job, I dont know.

Some are trying injecting younger blood into themselves. William Shatner did that.

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I don't know but the question is whether or not diseases can be completely solved. They bring that up quite well.

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Some like de Grey are approaching aging like a disease. It is a completely different mindset. We will see where this goes. It should be a fun field to watch over the next 15 years. The attraction is obviously if they can pull it off, people might live a lot longer.

If not, well we will be dead like we would have been, so nothing lost.

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Kind of goes to the Crisper thing. Gene modification and all that. Discover the gene that causes aging, modify it then another problem pops up.

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I realize this response is quite late. Living longer to a physical age would be acceptable to me for so long as there is a stop to age progression mental decline associated with it.

Why would I want to live to say 150 years old with the last 70 years or so having the mind of a 3 year old (or worse)?

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They say the air was different long ago and I know they had teams out trying to sample the air in sealed tombs. Don't know hoe successful they've been.

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Did they manage to get any good data out of it? I don't know how they could guarantee the air is the same after they put the items inside either. Once they poke a hole, it starts mixing.

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That's what I thought too, but I've been running into these articles over the years after reading about how long the ancient peole of the Bible lived.

SEARCHING FOR ANCIENT AIR ON THE TAYLOR GLACIER
https://icecores.org/indepth/spring-2011/searching-ancient-air-taylor-glacier

The claim is that the good book describes a canopy being over the earth in the days before the flood. Apparantly, it was a thick layer of ice which helped protect Noah and those before him, resulting in a slightly different mixture in the air. This protective covering around the Earth was reportedly destroyed, around the time of the flood. They say, this is why people lived so long back then and even African tribes hand down stories from long ago of their being two "Suns" in the sky for awhile.

After the flood, the biblical lifespans started dropping, assuming that canopy was gone?

It seems that water can be used as a shield against radiation, from NASA:

On the Moon, radiation shields would need to be very thick to prevent the primary cosmic rays (high-energy protons and heavy ions) from penetrating into habitation modules where astronauts will live. Such shielding could include the metal shell of a spacecraft or habitation module,
an insulating layer of lunar water, or both

The above is from page 9 of the PDF:
https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/284275main_Radiation_HS_Mod3.pdf

And more here:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23230-mars-trip-to-use-astronaut-poo-as-radiation-shield/

Water has long been suggested as a shielding material for interplanetary space missions. “Water is better than metals for protection,” says Marco Durante of the Technical University of Darmstadt in Germany. That’s because nuclei are the things that block cosmic rays, and water molecules, made of three small atoms, contain more nuclei per volume than a metal.

However, this study shoots all of the talk of a canopy down and makes some really good points:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/m/jmc6/CFSF/Articles/brown_canopy.pdf

If you keep your eyes peeled, you'll run into these articles once in a while. Seems life-extenstion types want to discover (and replicate) the conditions that allowed these guys to live to between 600 and 900+ years of age. Somebody wants to know the answer.

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Very interesting stuff.

I don't believe anyone ever lived up to 600 but it could provide good results anyway.

And anything that can help with space exploration is golden in my book

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Seems life-extenstion types want to discover (and replicate) the conditions that allowed these guys to live to between 600 and 900+ years of age

It is some interesting stuff but I don't know if I want Bill Gates to be alive for 600-900 years. wrecking havoc.

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He might just be a head in a jar at that point. :)

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Lots of theories about everything out there. Sure is interesting what people come up with. Even a lot of the outlandish stuff is pretty cool these days.

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That's interesting. Didn't hear about that before.

I wonder what line of research they were pursuing there. Must be interesting

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The aging research. de Grey is one of the central players in it, has been for decades. He works on the real fundamental stuff since he is private financed and donations so no need for a commercial product.

Like many in the field that is how they frame it. Thus they are not looking to cure specific diseased but rather what makes them susceptible to that.

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A lot of factors cause disease. In a way we find ourselves fighting nature itself.

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I don't know about the reversal of aging. I do know that geriatrics will be the no. 1 industry in the future.

Except, maybe the situation in the last year serves to diminish the basis of this industry. Yes, I know. Some grave implications ...

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Aging populations are starting to show up all over the world so yeah it will be a heavily populated field if something is not done. People are living long but is it any better quality of life? How many are being stuck in nursing homes to live out their days?

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Too many, of course. It's an industry already with nursing homes and guarded apartments as are they called here.

Unfortunately, it's all following the grand scheme of the last few decades - breaking up communities, families, individualization.

Instead of being taken care of by a whole family, you are let alone in a seemingly luxurious place yet without love and warmth, and social support.

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That is true. There is big money in taking care of the elderly.

Of course, part of it is that here, in the US, the Baby Boomers kicked off that craze because they didnt want to be saddled with the responsibility of their parents. So they pawned them off to a facility.

The most selfish generation.

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The most selfish generation.

It's all part of the grand scheme - divide and conquer.

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