Known you for short period of time and now I know I won't miss you. But good job taking notes on toning down those wall of texts. But if you do stick around, great, keep on #ryzing
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Known you for short period of time and now I know I won't miss you. But good job taking notes on toning down those wall of texts. But if you do stick around, great, keep on #ryzing
At this point… I have to wonder what platform you are actually bringing value too. To be happy when an entrepreneur and investor powers down? Really? My decision to take MY business’s off the blockchain and my investment elsewhere is an example of Hive’s failure to stay relevant and innovative. I have a lot to say about that and if I want to I can speak out on and off the blockchain about this? Everyone is free to have a voice… this place is supposed to champion free speech… what does it say when someone like me makes the call and closes down a business on the blockchain? What does it say when closed minds try to hush someone? It says that things are fragile and that there might even be things under wraps that certain people don’t want light on.
What blockchain are you working for anyways? I’m working for Hive… and I want to give it a chance…
At this point this “text wall” isn’t for you… it’s for the truth seekers who will follow the breadcrumbs. Later will this be an archive of what we are proud of? Or will it be the shame and laughing stock of the wider crypto community?
Based on what you and your gang of bullies are doing… I have my sincere concerns.
This is why I do and say the things I do and say…
And ultimately… it’s not what’s said… it’s what isn’t said… and it’s about what isn’t done.
It's only a cry for free speech when you get downvoted caused by a loss of potential $. When you were talking to frugal, did you happen to see them downvoting livinguktaiwan first and then claim victim when it was their downvotes that poked the nest? I'm sure you'll buy any snake oil as long as it has a branding of bringing the human and positivity.
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I prefer purging fakes and other posers which gives more value to the chain that promoting content thieves to which I don't see in your priorities at all. You see downvotes as a mechanism to silence? I see it as a way to make the legit creator outside the platform feel at ease knowing their thieves get what's due.
Do you want these fakes to have a voice and earn from their theft?
I don’t care about a couple piddly dollars worth in abusive DV’ing. What I care about is that this behaviour undermines the very foundation we, as Hive Owners, are attempting to build upon.
It might surprise you… but not all of us think about financial capital as if it comes 1st.
Entrepreneurs like me are looking at sustainability that can stand the test of time. We are looking 20 years out…
And if the blockchain in its current structure can not retain its social capital… how on gods green earth do you think it’s going to retain business dev and investor confidence.
No sir.
You have me all wrong… expand you mindset.
Hives well-being and future prospects are are risk on right now…
Fixing the DV with further thought and development at the base layer is what will risk off for all of Hive’s owners… and after 4 years… we all deserve a Hive that is innovative and forward thinking.
This sort of mindset is short term and not nearly expansive enough.
All that investor mindset bullocks you spout doesn't mount to anything if people know their content which is the human part on the blockchain can't get some level of respect. Why the hell do you think Blurt isn't even near Hive when you complaining about downvotes, they removed that function and gave people all the voice they have to yell for and what happens to the place? Just a bunch of self voting pricks and cppy paste posts from the Internet.
You want to invest in that type of freedom? There's your answer. No downvotes there.
While you cry for social engagement as a sign of health, the blockchain still moves in $ knowing that value is being put in parts where people don't need to get paid to have an opinion. See Splinterlands.
You think getting paid to blog was a bright idea? It's all paid to have an opinion and hope someone tips you for a job well done or thanks for sharing an opinion. And upvote is an opinion that content should get rewarded and visibility, the same as a downvoted in reverse.
There’s more than one way to look at a problem. That’s the value in valuing people with different ideas and opinions. If you have a culture that doesn’t accept differences you will have solutions that are to narrow and ultimately fail. The world is far to wide and big for this sort of thinking and anything that is derived from a foundation that is too narrow in scope will endUP deficient and marginalized. It’s not the time to regurgitate pre-conceived ideology… it’s the time to unplug from the Hive think and actually LISTEN to the community. A social blockchain like this one will grow if it is listening because it can then have the vision required to innovate the future. The future is far to dynamic for static fixed mindsets. We need real solutions and this isn’t the level of thinking that’s going to get us there. You can’t build castles on sand… you have to build them on well thought out bedrock. Blockchains founded on these fundamentals will stand the test of time and not perpetuate disfunction.
Great job building on those real solutions, by downvoting people you disagree on with your comet wanker, you effectively do the same thing the people you try to accuse being mean only taking a moral high ground. That's the height of hypocrisy. I don't downvote people for their opinions. It's the financial rewards I am taking why I downvote.
You on the other hand, disagree and downvote opinions you dislike. I would understand it if my comments got rewarded and you taking those reaards out is an expression of your opinion. But to downvote even when there is nothing to take from a zero payout comment? Bruh, that's pretty much how bigots work.
Say what you will… but celebrating being mean is so far out of any healthy mindset… being a bully is so far out of any healthy mindset… I’m going to take an opportunity to communicate those values. And bullying and being mean deliberately (in public hidden by a profile) is something that I dislike enough to DV immediately. Do I risk taking singular action? Yes. But so long as there is raw exposure to the DV I will use it to do good. Do I like it? No. I would rather take collective community action. That’s an intelligent response. I have showed you where we are currently… and I have shown you where I think we need to go. I have taken the time to logically discuss this with you. I have even explained why you got those DV’s from @Comet.Ranker in the 1st place. If that isn’t some form of respect I don’t know what is.
Take it or leave it. I hope you consider well what has been discussed here today.
I’m going to give you an full UP vote. I appreciate you taking the time to discuss things with me even if we might have conflicting view points. There’s value in that we connected in some form or fashion.
Have a good day!
I’m about to kick off another full day myself!
@wil.metcalfe
You missed the point. (Could that be because you are listening to respond rather than understand?) Did I ever say get rid of the DV? No. I. Did. Not. I said it needed to be re-thought and intelligently re-innovated. [period]
Suggest to reinnovate how to upvote while you're at it because it's more problematic to see stolen and spam content get rewarded. You want to regulate downvotes like how it should be used? Regulate upvotes too because those can equally be as toxic as downvotes.
I don't tell people what to do with their damn upvotes or downvotes, I'm fine seeing that choice be done freely by them on their accounts. And then take in whatever consequences that come with those actions.
By the way… Pomp spoke about what we are attempting to innovate here on Hive today… he talked about why it’s important… and he also talked about what decentralized platforms like Hive need to do to gain market share and why user friendliness from function to community matter. Check it out!
I think your being a bit difficult here. We can’t win the game with defence alone… right now we can’t move past the problems the DV is causing… it’s becoming more and more clear by the day. We don’t want to wait until the music stops to finally sitUP and see the problems for what they are. Stake is stake. If it’s harmful use of stake innovate it at the base layer. Getting a bunch of people to walk the halls does little to actually address the real issues at the root. It, in effect, only makes them worse and also signals to the spammers, scammers, etc weakness. The way to solve a problem is to scale it in code on the blockchain… not throw fallible and limited humans at it. We innovate our way out of the problems we have. We come from a position of true strength. That’s the only way to win. Look… we are all here on the ground floor doing something that’s never been done before… thousands of years of human history have lead us select few to this pin point in time. We can’t think that innovating the future is going to be solved by repeating the mistakes of the archaic past. We are better than that. We have to be better than that! I want to win… don’t you?
Harmful content should be down voted. Spam (as agreed upon by the community) should be down voted. Plagiarism should be down voted. But before it’s blindside downvoted… it should, obviously, be brought in a structure and methodical well laid out and transparent way for the COMMUNITY to decide. Any other ways trades one abuse for another.
I have seriously given this plenty of thought… accusations of this nature from people who don’t know me, hide behind anonymous accounts, jumping to assumptions, levying labels, and spreading lies… does little to encourage any sort of trust and mass adoption from high value accounts.
A coded DV structure that’s not fully thought through and developed only detracts away and spreads disfunction where it doesn’t need to be. Instead of BUIDLing we are busy fighting ourselves.
That’s energy miss-spent.
I have told you clearly my point of view and why it is that I am of this mind.
My people will respect my honesty…
I don’t care what anyone else thinks about me… so long as I continue to speak truth and compound trust… that’s what matters to me.
Social Capital always proceeds Financial Capital.
That’s my value set.
And those who know me and have been my audience for the past 4 years… those people know what I’m talking about and why I’m talking about it.
Conform to a consensus on how downvotes should be used? Sounds like centralized opinions on how things should be done. The same demons you try to purge.
What it does is it bring every owner that cares about Hive and it’s future together. Rather than a few in a closed group deciding what constitutes the required DV it brings everyone together and scales the solution at the base layer. You can’t scale a centralize solution. If you attempt to it only ends up excentuating human failings. If we bring everyone together we send a clear message against spammers, plagiarists, and people creating harmful content… that we as a community are willing to collectively (our strongest position) defend our freedoms. We are all responsible for this and the more people we can get to pare their ownership freedom with the responsibility required to adequately protect AND market the blockchain the sooner we can all stop fighting ourselves and continue building better ways to human TOGETHER!
Do you see the vision?
I just see this voting activity done by comet wanker. Do your delegators even know youre using the account to vote on your own comments?
Go check. I explained why those DV’s happened. Have a good day and I hope that calm and clarity are a part of your day. 🙏